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Posted by Deneb on July 25, 2006, at 16:49:24
I have 2 friends who have psychology degrees. One of my friends "S" mentioned that we were antisocial. I immediately said that being antisocial does not mean being shy, rather it means being hostile towards society. He and my other friend then argued that I was wrong and they were right. I tried and tried but they still thought being antisocial is equivalent to being shy. They just didn't believe me. How can they not know this despite having studied psychology?
I was soooo frustrated. I finally just let it go. Obviously nothing I said was going to convince them.
I just can't stand it when people don't even consider that they might be wrong about something. I always do.
I suppose I'm just going to have to accept this popularly accepted usage of the word "antisocial".
I'm also disappointed that they would joke around about being extremely shy. Social phobia is a serious anxiety disorder. It can be very debilitating.
Sigh.
Also, S used the word "borderline" to mean an extremely undesirable person. You can imagine how upset I was. I didn't show my upset though.
Throughout the conversation I could tell that S carried a lot of stigma about people with mental illness. How can two psychology students be so uninformed about mental illness?
I don't get it. I think my friends need to meet real people with real mental illnesses.
Deneb*
Posted by TexasChic on July 25, 2006, at 19:15:53
In reply to Something I can't stand, posted by Deneb on July 25, 2006, at 16:49:24
Wow, how far along are they in their studies? I guess studying doesn't change prejudices. Its okay, we know you're right.
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Check this out from Wikipedia:
Anti-social behaviour is often seen as public behaviour that lacks judgement and consideration for others and may cause them or their property damage.However anti-social behaviour does not relate to people who are anti-society at all, but merely relates to people who oppose political systems, leaders, institutions or other forms of authority, and exists as anti-authoritarian and/or anarchist behaviour.
The term "anti-social" is often mistakenly used to describe someone who is introverted; anti-social people may also be extroverted. The counterpart of anti-social behaviour is pro-social behaviour[citation needed], namely any behaviour intended to help or benefit another person, group or society.
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Doesn't sound like shyness to me! Unless you can be a shy extrovert.
-T
Posted by Phillipa on July 25, 2006, at 22:11:43
In reply to Re: Something I can't stand » Deneb, posted by TexasChic on July 25, 2006, at 19:15:53
Deneb just hope they don't go into psychology. I wouldn't want one of them for a therapist. Love Phillipa
Posted by Racer on July 25, 2006, at 22:29:07
In reply to Re: Something I can't stand » Deneb, posted by TexasChic on July 25, 2006, at 19:15:53
Introversion is asocial, not antisocial. And yes, it's too bad when people don't pay attention to that sort of thing.
I'm guessing your friends have BAs in psych? That's more understandable, since that's more general psychology, rather than abnormal or counseling psychology.
Posted by Deneb on July 25, 2006, at 23:04:45
In reply to Mistaking Asocial for ANTIsocial, posted by Racer on July 25, 2006, at 22:29:07
Yes, they have BAs in psychology. I don't know what they really learn. I just assumed they learned about abnormal psychology.
I'm just suprised I know so much more about this than they do.
Deneb*
Posted by cloudydaze on July 26, 2006, at 0:32:19
In reply to Re: Mistaking Asocial for ANTIsocial » Racer, posted by Deneb on July 25, 2006, at 23:04:45
> Yes, they have BAs in psychology. I don't know what they really learn. I just assumed they learned about abnormal psychology.
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> I'm just suprised I know so much more about this than they do.
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> Deneb*
Hmm...i took general, abnormal, and social psychology in junior college..I betcha I know more than they do about psychology :-P
Because....I know what anti-social means!
Posted by Racer on July 26, 2006, at 0:53:28
In reply to Re: Mistaking Asocial for ANTIsocial » Racer, posted by Deneb on July 25, 2006, at 23:04:45
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> I'm just suprised I know so much more about this than they do.
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> Deneb*Yeah, well, I look at that as being one of the perks of being Froot Loops -- I know as much or more about abnormal psychology as many Psych majors, and probably more than many with MAs in it...
(I was about to write to you that you know more because you're nuts, but realized we don't really know one another enough for you to know I'm teasing with that sort of thing. It's OK to be nuts, you know -- personally, I'm a hazelnut: little and round...)
Posted by wishingstar on July 26, 2006, at 15:43:33
In reply to Something I can't stand, posted by Deneb on July 25, 2006, at 16:49:24
I have a BA in psychology also (now working on my MA) and I have to tell you, when I graduated with my BA, I wouldnt have ever even heard of borderline if it wasnt for having the diagnosis myself and a lot of personal reading. I had been taught a little about anti-social pd, but only in my abnormal class, and that class was an elective.
It's interesting to me what most schools do and dont teach their psychology students (undergraduate anyway). I could have cited a dozen studies about rats in mazes and language acquisition and whatever else, but real world, every day issues? Very little. Sometimes though I think people with a BA in psych (only some of course) think they know more than they do about the field. It's easy to feel confident with a degree in hand. I hope that doesnt sound uncivil because I'm not trying to put anyone down.. I was a psych major myself and probably fell into that trap numerous times as well. Oh well.
I'm sorry you had to deal with that. It sounds very frustrating.
Posted by Kath on July 28, 2006, at 14:59:40
In reply to Re: Something I can't stand » Deneb, posted by TexasChic on July 25, 2006, at 19:15:53
I think I am shy and NOT shy.
I am quite an extrovert in certain situations. At our monthly pottery-guild meeting it's often me who will put up my hand & ask a question in front of sometimes dozens of people.
I am shy in certain situations though.
As a kid & teen I was SHY. I started to 'act as if' I wasn't shy & gradually the non-shy way of behaving became the way I acted most of the time. But inside I'm shy sometimes.
Kath
PS - as you-all may have noticed, I tend to be a blabber-mouth if I get talking about something. Can a shy person be a blabber-mouth? LOL
K
Posted by Kath on July 28, 2006, at 15:01:36
In reply to Re: Mistaking Asocial for ANTIsocial » Deneb, posted by Racer on July 26, 2006, at 0:53:28
Loved this post! K
> > I'm just suprised I know so much more about this than they do.
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> > Deneb*
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> Yeah, well, I look at that as being one of the perks of being Froot Loops -- I know as much or more about abnormal psychology as many Psych majors, and probably more than many with MAs in it...
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> (I was about to write to you that you know more because you're nuts, but realized we don't really know one another enough for you to know I'm teasing with that sort of thing. It's OK to be nuts, you know -- personally, I'm a hazelnut: little and round...)
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