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Posted by wildcard11 on April 1, 2006, at 10:54:57
In reply to I do have some advice, Phillipa, posted by txtoolgirl on March 31, 2006, at 22:00:13
referring to may very well know who you are referring to and feel hurt by what you're saying. I think it would have been a much better approach to this if you had babbled Phillipa.
Posted by gabbi~1 on April 1, 2006, at 11:29:21
In reply to The person you are » txtoolgirl, posted by wildcard11 on April 1, 2006, at 10:54:57
I thought exactly the same thing.
I don't know why this had to be on the board.
Posted by wildcard11 on April 1, 2006, at 11:30:38
In reply to Re: The person you are, posted by gabbi~1 on April 1, 2006, at 11:29:21
I'm glad it wasn't just me...
Posted by Phillipa on April 1, 2006, at 11:44:39
In reply to Re: The person you are » gabbi~1, posted by wildcard11 on April 1, 2006, at 11:30:38
It's not my problem. Talk to his doctor or get him the help he needs. I don't feel I've wasted my time. Pbabble is a place to support others and that is what I do with everyone. Since I don't know him in real life I only know what is told to me here by an l8 yr old who is legally able to make his own decisions reguarding his life. I try to help all my pbabble buddies not just one in particular. That should be obvious from reading all of my posts to the others. Love Phillipa
Posted by verne on April 1, 2006, at 12:11:44
In reply to I do have some advice, Phillipa, posted by txtoolgirl on March 31, 2006, at 22:00:13
Sounds like your talking about me, all except for the teenager, student, insurance, and mother part. There's usually little validity to anything I post and I'm "high drama".
But I'm not sure questioning another poster's "validity" is very civil. And why is the boy's viewpoint less valid than the mother's? Why is her drama about insurance and school more important than his drama?
It's true though that this site isn't good for some people when it interfers with real life stuff like school. The place to fix this though is in real life. Chiding "enabling" posters is like pulling weeds, others will quickly take their place.
I think my break will start soon.
Verne
Posted by wildcard11 on April 1, 2006, at 12:14:42
In reply to Re: I do have some advice, Phillipa » txtoolgirl, posted by verne on April 1, 2006, at 12:11:44
Posted by ClearSkies on April 1, 2006, at 14:26:12
In reply to I do have some advice, Phillipa, posted by txtoolgirl on March 31, 2006, at 22:00:13
> There is absoutely no validity to anything this teenager is posting.
Please do not post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
ClearSkies, acting as not-a-deputy for Dr Bob
Posted by Jakeman on April 1, 2006, at 19:50:11
In reply to I'm offering my advice, Phillipa, posted by txtoolgirl on March 31, 2006, at 21:44:02
> There is no validity to anything this young man post, period.
Mighty strong statements for someone you don't even know.
warm regards, Jake
Posted by TylerJ on April 1, 2006, at 19:50:12
In reply to Re: I'm offering my advice, Phillipa » txtoolgirl, posted by Jakeman on April 1, 2006, at 0:00:08
> > There is no validity to anything this young man post, period.
>
> Mighty strong statements for someone you don't even know.
>
> warm regards, Jake
I STRONGLY agree with Jake!!Tyler
Posted by greywolf on April 1, 2006, at 19:50:13
In reply to I'm offering my advice, Phillipa, posted by txtoolgirl on March 31, 2006, at 21:44:02
I think txtoolgirl has stated her point too strongly, but it is not entirely invalid. Matt is obviously dealing with some tough circumstances, but I'm not sure how med-related many of his threads are.
Perhaps a more pertinent observation would be that dr-bob.org provides other boards that are more appropriate for real-time discussions of mood swings, fights with family members, etc. Certainly, sometimes those issues are caught up in finding the right med to control, improve, or eliminate a personal response to the situation, but I'm not sure that's the point of many of his threads.
That being said, IMHO the way to handle this is to carefully provide support while refraining from comments that might exacerbate his situation. For instance, it's difficult for me to comfortably comment on someone else's personal conflicts with others, so I generally limit myself to the somewhat trite advice that maybe they should remove themselves from the situation until it calms down. I'll leave more in-depth involvement to others, and the appropriateness of threads to the good judgment of moderators.
Posted by TylerJ on April 1, 2006, at 19:50:13
In reply to Re: I'm offering my advice, Phillipa, posted by greywolf on April 1, 2006, at 9:26:24
> I think txtoolgirl has stated her point too strongly, but it is not entirely invalid. Matt is obviously dealing with some tough circumstances, but I'm not sure how med-related many of his threads are.
>
> Perhaps a more pertinent observation would be that dr-bob.org provides other boards that are more appropriate for real-time discussions of mood swings, fights with family members, etc. Certainly, sometimes those issues are caught up in finding the right med to control, improve, or eliminate a personal response to the situation, but I'm not sure that's the point of many of his threads.
>
> That being said, IMHO the way to handle this is to carefully provide support while refraining from comments that might exacerbate his situation. For instance, it's difficult for me to comfortably comment on someone else's personal conflicts with others, so I generally limit myself to the somewhat trite advice that maybe they should remove themselves from the situation until it calms down. I'll leave more in-depth involvement to others, and the appropriateness of threads to the good judgment of moderators.Well said greywolf. It's obvious the young man needs help, much more than I can offer.
Tyler
Posted by willyee on April 1, 2006, at 19:50:14
In reply to Re: I'm offering my advice, Phillipa » greywolf, posted by TylerJ on April 1, 2006, at 9:53:25
Yep,i agree its a lot of twists and turns he has,and it does seem as if he really requires much more than this group.I cant keep up with where he even is anymore.
Best wishes though regardless its obvious hes going through some extremly rough times.
Posted by Glydin on April 1, 2006, at 19:50:15
In reply to I'm offering my advice, Phillipa, posted by txtoolgirl on March 31, 2006, at 21:44:02
I think a number of us have been concerned over time - actually about a year and a half or so - regarding the postings referred. A number of folks have attempted really good advice and that is what this place is about.
Regardless of the validity of all that has been posted by the poster, there are obvious problems and issues that need dealing with. If all of what the poster posted is invalid, well, that's a problem in and of itself. I think most of the posters to the board are aware of it's limitations AND most of us find over time that sometimes things are not always the way they are protrayed. That being said, intentions, when support and compassion are shown, are generally good as far as I can tell over the four years I've posted here.
Posted by 10derHeart on April 1, 2006, at 19:50:16
In reply to I'm offering my advice, Phillipa, posted by txtoolgirl on March 31, 2006, at 21:44:02
> There is no validity to anything this young man post, period.
...as ClearSkies requested of you on the Social board. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20060331/msgs/627524.html
...and please don't post the same post to two different boards. Thanks.
-- 10derHeart (*not* acting as deputy for Dr. Bob)
Posted by wildcard11 on April 1, 2006, at 20:00:52
In reply to Re: I'm offering my advice, Phillipa, posted by greywolf on April 1, 2006, at 9:26:24
for those that may have no clue about this whole thing...the poster must feel bad enough...
Posted by wildcard11 on April 1, 2006, at 20:04:22
In reply to I'm offering my advice, Phillipa, posted by txtoolgirl on March 31, 2006, at 21:44:02
this person so WHY not talk to them, not the board re: personal issues this poster may not want revealed *if* what you say is true! if it is true, it wld. be more helpful if you handled it on a private basis~not like this. i see *validity* in this posters posts already just by you posting this...we take up for our own here.
Posted by wildcard11 on April 1, 2006, at 20:05:59
In reply to Please be civil » txtoolgirl, posted by ClearSkies on April 1, 2006, at 14:26:12
since the PBC did not stop what this poster is saying??????
Posted by gardenergirl on April 1, 2006, at 20:15:57
In reply to could a deputy step in » ClearSkies, posted by wildcard11 on April 1, 2006, at 20:05:59
The same thread was also posted on the meds board. I consolidated that thread to here. The posts are not new, just moved.
Sorry for any confusion.
gg
Posted by Phillipa on April 1, 2006, at 20:29:38
In reply to please be civil and... » txtoolgirl, posted by 10derHeart on April 1, 2006, at 17:56:49
What I'm not quite sure of is how can someone else can post the feelings of another poster without being in very close contact with them? And all said I will continue to support any poster that needs to be supported to the best of my ability not knowing the real circumstances I can only go on what they post. I am not a judgemental person. But at what age is a person responsible for themselves? Just curious. Love Phillipa
Posted by TylerJ on April 1, 2006, at 22:27:43
In reply to Re: please be civil and..., posted by Phillipa on April 1, 2006, at 19:54:02
> What I'm not quite sure of is how can someone else can post the feelings of another poster without being in very close contact with them? And all said I will continue to support any poster that needs to be supported to the best of my ability not knowing the real circumstances I can only go on what they post. I am not a judgemental person. But at what age is a person responsible for themselves? Just curious. Love Phillipa
Good job Phillipa, I totally agree.Tyler
Posted by verne on April 1, 2006, at 22:34:03
In reply to Re: I'm offering my advice, Phillipa, posted by Glydin on April 1, 2006, at 16:25:52
i didn't know the history. I work so much in theory, compounded by communicating through this artifical conveyance. I'm so blinded and hurt myself, I just can't see a way to help this young man in real terms.
I just hope someone can, get through, help him, in the real world. This, babble, ain't where it's at.
Posted by Phillipa on April 1, 2006, at 22:40:59
In reply to Long Way from the Yellow Brick Road » Glydin, posted by verne on April 1, 2006, at 22:34:03
To all off you I appreciate your support but I am not hurt at all. Contrary I think a clarification is needed as to when a person is responsible for themselves and doen't have to have permission to leave home, get a job, see a doc of their own choice and follow the doctor's orders. I worked a while in psych and am very familiar with situations of this type. In real life a social worker would be consulsted. Love Phillipa
Posted by rjlockhart on April 1, 2006, at 22:42:05
In reply to Re: please be civil and..., posted by Phillipa on April 1, 2006, at 19:54:02
"Drama" huh..... you all call this DRAMA!
Do you understand that my mother has mania rages, she has before, i have thrown lamps, knocked over dressers, i've said "YOU DID THIS TO ME, YOU.... EVERYDAY YOU SCREAM AND YELL WHAT F*CK ELSE DO YOU WANT, YOU SENT ME TO MENTAL HOSPITAL, WHAT ELSE ARE GOING TO DO" "ILL PUT YOU BACK" she scremed at me when i was 17 when i just had a breakout and totalled my room. The bed was knocked over, dresser, psyically fought my stepdad, punched my fist one time through a window? that was a while back.... im like that anymore, right now im just trying to hold on, stay calm and find a way to serenity.....i have had enough of this... its too much fighting. I stopped it, it just mentally makes you feel horrid.
I have gone manic, i one time walked out and walked all the way to fort worth looking for a job. 20miles i got sunburned severely.
You guys dont get it, my mom can be very extreme, and then totally go back to normal. I dont want to distort anything. This is how it is. Do you understand.
And to those who said said "drama" excuse me, you are wrong, how about a week or a month with my carol.
Phillipa is not my mother, she is someone that i met over the psychobabble. My mom hardly ever reads here because she doesnt use the computer.
I hope this strignts things out.
Im 18, fixing to be 19. Adult.
Thats why i did not post this when i was 17 because i just wanted to put it off. This is when it happened around 17.
I hope this makes things ok.
Matt
Posted by Phillipa on April 1, 2006, at 22:51:54
In reply to Re: why dont you guys just come here and live., posted by rjlockhart on April 1, 2006, at 22:42:05
Matt I think you have matured quite a bit from when you were seventeen. To prove your point make sure you stay calm and if you have a problem there is always help available in real life and here . Although right how the real life is the issue. You can call a crisis line, a hospital, or anyone else you feel can be helpful to you. Someone you trust. And you can choose to live whereever you want with who ever you want. Just make sure they are a good person. love Mom 2 Phillipa
Posted by verne on April 1, 2006, at 23:53:45
In reply to Re: why dont you guys just come here and live. » rjlockhart, posted by Phillipa on April 1, 2006, at 22:51:54
help online seems empty
virtual hugs, almost painful.final farewells of love after every empty goodbye: how should we say, meaningless.
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