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Posted by Deneb on December 18, 2005, at 19:24:12
I'm a little angry that someone thinks there is something the matter with me.
I can't even be silly?
I don't like it when someone thinks there is something wrong with me.
I don't need *any* meds, and I can prove it.
There is nothing wrong with me. No one here knows me in real life. No one here can conclude that there is something wrong with me because they don't know me.
Posted by Deneb on December 18, 2005, at 19:29:04
In reply to I'm a little angry, posted by Deneb on December 18, 2005, at 19:24:12
I'm more angry now. I just want to yell and scream. Aaahhhh!
I need to get a life.
Aaaahhhhhh! I hate _______.
I hate ___________.
Posted by fallsfall on December 18, 2005, at 19:32:18
In reply to I'm a little angry, posted by Deneb on December 18, 2005, at 19:24:12
>I don't need *any* meds, and I can prove it.
Deneb,
Are you working with your pdoc to reduce your meds? I hope that you are consulting with your doctor about any med changes. This post almost sounds like you are going to stop meds against your doctor's suggestion. Are you? That concerns me. If you have a good reason to stop meds, then you should be able to explain it to your doctor and get your doctor to agree. Stopping meds on your own is often a dangerous thing to do.
My standard advice is: Talk to your doctor and see if the two of you can agree on what the best plan is.
I honestly don't know if there is "anything wrong" with you. But I do know that even if you are perfectly fine that stopping meds suddenly can make you very not fine!!! Please be careful.
Posted by alexandra_k2 on December 18, 2005, at 19:48:11
In reply to I'm a little angry, posted by Deneb on December 18, 2005, at 19:24:12
> I'm a little angry that someone thinks there is something the matter with me.
You talking about me?
What do you mean by 'something is the matter with me'?
I thought you posted stuff before about some difficulties that you have...
With stress around school
With your emotions at times
With your thoughts about death and dying etc
I thought those were things that you thought you struggled with at times.
> I can't even be silly?Of course you can be silly...
But silliness (to the best of my knowledge) is a kind of humour.
And people tend not to laugh when they feel hurt in response.
So maybe think about humour... And whether the joke is funny to all...
Or whether someone might feel hurt in response.
A good question to ask is 'if they said that to me then would I feel hurt in response'?
> I don't like it when someone thinks there is something wrong with me.I thought that you had posted about some things that you struggle with.
I have loads of things that I struggle with...
There is quite a lot 'wrong' with me IN THAT SENSE
Oh yes there is indeed.
> I don't need *any* meds, and I can prove it.Or make a right *ss of myself trying...
Sigh.
I'm not trying to back you into a corner into taking your meds.
Your decision.
I'm just wondering...
How much you are getting to the point where you might be inclined to say something in the heat of the moment...
That you might well regret later.People point out the relationship between your medication and your mood / disinhibition because people care about you. If we didn't care we wouldn't bother responding to you at all. People respond because they do care. But sometimes people don't know what to do. They don't know how to say the 'right thing'. The wonderful magical words that will make you feel better.
I know that from my first person pov...
I can't tell whether meds help me or not.
From a relatively objective 'other person' pov I think the answer is far more obvious...
I'm like that with my period too.
All I know is I'm jolly well distressed.
All gg knows is I'm getting my period and I'll feel better in a couple days.Sigh.
> There is nothing wrong with me. No one here knows me in real life. No one here can conclude that there is something wrong with me because they don't know me.
I thought... That you posted quite often about things that you didn't think were going so right.It isn't a black and white issue.
You aren't all just perfectly fine
Or otherwise there is something wrong with you
It isn't one or the other.
Everybody here struggles at times I dare say...
That is why we are here...
Posted by alexandra_k2 on December 18, 2005, at 19:53:31
In reply to Re: I'm a little angry, posted by alexandra_k2 on December 18, 2005, at 19:48:11
i'm sorry if that last post didn't go down at all well...
you keep asking
am i okay?
is what i'm posting okay?
so i'm thinking thats probably because you are wondering a little yourself...
but you also seem to be escalating...
and i can't find the magic words...
so maybe i'll just stop now
before i make the situation worse...
before you end up feeling even worse in response...i don't know what to say...
i've always supported you
and i don't think i've judged you
or invalidated you
or lied to youand i guess its supposed to be in the validation...
but i'm not feeling so flash myself...
struggling a bit
(okay quite a lot)
at the moment...and so i probably should just stop.
one thing i noticed about your posts...
is that when you escalate...
you start a lot of your own threads...
when you are in a better space you reply more to other peoples...
i dunno
i have faith in you...
you will sort it out...i'm going to try sort me out now...
bye.
Posted by alexandra_k2 on December 18, 2005, at 19:54:30
In reply to Re: I'm a little angry, posted by alexandra_k2 on December 18, 2005, at 19:53:31
maybe its in the 2
former me didn't struggle so much...
did she?
Posted by Deneb on December 18, 2005, at 20:04:02
In reply to Re: I'm a little angry, posted by alexandra_k2 on December 18, 2005, at 19:54:30
Sorry Alex, I'm not angry at you.
I think I should stop posting for a while (if I can).
I don't want to get in trouble again.
Posted by alexandra_k2 on December 18, 2005, at 20:07:19
In reply to Re: I'm a little angry, posted by Deneb on December 18, 2005, at 20:04:02
> Sorry Alex, I'm not angry at you.
thats okay. sorry i'm in 'taking it personally' mode today...
> I think I should stop posting for a while (if I can).
maybe... just think a bit about what you are posting... maybe... reply to some other people. or write something in word... maybe something... about how you feel. what kind of mood you are in.. sometimes that can be hard to figure out...
> I don't want to get in trouble again.i know you don't.
(((deneb)))
take care.PS email me if you want to.
if you want to vent or wahtever...
Posted by Deneb on December 18, 2005, at 21:04:05
In reply to I'm a little angry, posted by Deneb on December 18, 2005, at 19:24:12
Sorry if anyone thought I was angry at him/her.
I'm not angry anymore.
I'm going to pull myself together.
Deneb
Posted by Larry Hoover on December 18, 2005, at 21:06:18
In reply to I'm a little angry, posted by Deneb on December 18, 2005, at 19:24:12
> I'm a little angry that someone thinks there is something the matter with me.
Are you talking about the babblemail I sent to you? I asked you a question in that babblemail. I told you I was concerned. As Alex has pointed out, only someone who cares about you would make the effort.
I just want to make clear, if it's me you're angry with, that I did not say I thought there was anything wrong with you.
I'm uncomfortable with this situation. I feel an escalation, and if it's me you're angry with, deal with me, please. You have babblemail. You can email me, or talk here. I think the safer alternatives are not on this board. I won't be judging with respect to civility.
Lar
Posted by rjlockhart on December 18, 2005, at 21:09:17
In reply to I'm a little angry, posted by Deneb on December 18, 2005, at 19:24:12
I freaked out when i read this post that i said something.
I was just saying that, i was referring to me not anyone else about selfimprovement books. Im so stupid. Thats why i dont post.
Vacuums and, i dont know,
Ok was it me, or someone else, if it was me .. im sorry.
what happened?
Posted by Deneb on December 18, 2005, at 21:13:21
In reply to Re: I'm a little angry » Deneb, posted by Larry Hoover on December 18, 2005, at 21:06:18
I'm sorry everyone, for saying that I was angry here.
I really regret some of the things I've posted right now.
I need a do-over.
I want to say that I wish i were dead, but that might be taken the wrong way.
Deneb
Posted by Phillipa on December 18, 2005, at 23:03:26
In reply to I'm sorry, posted by Deneb on December 18, 2005, at 21:13:21
Deneb if you stopped your meds on your own you need to call your pdoc. Okay? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by alexandra_k2 on December 19, 2005, at 0:55:57
In reply to I'm sorry, posted by Deneb on December 18, 2005, at 21:13:21
> I want to say that I wish i were dead...
What would that mean, if you were dead?
Posted by alexandra_k2 on December 19, 2005, at 0:56:42
In reply to Re: I'm sorry, posted by alexandra_k2 on December 19, 2005, at 0:55:57
Sometimes I say I want to die when what I really want is for the pain to stop.
And I don't seem to be able to manage it very well.
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