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Posted by verne on January 12, 2005, at 1:31:14
I need one more thing for the trifecta.
Not long ago, I didn't go shopping for a year, doing all my grocery shopping online. The UPS driver stopped by 2-3 times a week. I refused to deal with FED-EX because they made me open the door to sign for the stupid stuff. (and looked at me funny when I answered the door in my underwear)
I'm not just disliked, but hated, by most church congregations in town after hopping about from church to church during my christian phase. I decided that I'm real and they aren't. They are into "show-an-show-off" religion, not me.
I'm also not from Iowa and just plain hate it - which doesn't help me around these parts.
I hope to escape in a couple years.
verne
Posted by saw on January 12, 2005, at 2:23:07
In reply to Nobody Likes Me and I Live like a Hermit, posted by verne on January 12, 2005, at 1:31:14
Well, you're not hated here. Not at all.
(((verne)))
Sabrina
Posted by Angel Girl on January 12, 2005, at 5:04:49
In reply to Nobody Likes Me and I Live like a Hermit, posted by verne on January 12, 2005, at 1:31:14
Verne
I'm sorry that you are made to feel that you are not liked. Why would going from one church to another make you feel like you are hated? I'm assuming that you have given up on church altogether.
I've never tried grocery shopping online but have given it some thought. Don't you have to pay with a cc? I don't have one. Not a good idea for me, the cc I mean.
Were you buying your groceries online to avoid people because you feel hated?
If you are unhappy where you are living, is there any chance that you could move somewhere where you could possibly be more content?
BTW, what do you mean by trifecta?
Hugs,
AG> I need one more thing for the trifecta.
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> Not long ago, I didn't go shopping for a year, doing all my grocery shopping online. The UPS driver stopped by 2-3 times a week. I refused to deal with FED-EX because they made me open the door to sign for the stupid stuff. (and looked at me funny when I answered the door in my underwear)
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> I'm not just disliked, but hated, by most church congregations in town after hopping about from church to church during my christian phase. I decided that I'm real and they aren't. They are into "show-an-show-off" religion, not me.
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> I'm also not from Iowa and just plain hate it - which doesn't help me around these parts.
>
> I hope to escape in a couple years.
>
> verne
Posted by verne on January 12, 2005, at 9:48:38
In reply to Re: Nobody Likes Me and I Live like a Hermit » verne, posted by Angel Girl on January 12, 2005, at 5:04:49
I had a good stretch of sobriety going and blew it last night. The movie I rented ("I Robot") was lousy (I liked the book better), the beer was skunky, and any euphoria quickly turned to crankiness and self-pity.
Hungover but thankful it's not worse. I threw out about half the beer so I drank less.
I hope to leave Iowa in a couple years when I get out of debt. (long story) This is a cheap place to live. Besides I'm in no shape to travel or make a move. My plan is to live on a beach or lake someday. (I'm semi-retired)
A "trifecta" is a horse or dog racing term - a bet that picks the first three finishers. A trifecta can also mean any group of three. When I wrote (1) "nobody likes me" and (2) "I live like a hermit", I couldn't think of a third.
verne
Posted by anastasia56 on January 12, 2005, at 11:49:43
In reply to Feeling Sorry For Myself » Angel Girl, posted by verne on January 12, 2005, at 9:48:38
verne, believe me when i say i am trying to be supportive when i say this..."KNOCK IT OFF WITH THE BOOZE!!"
you're a decent guy that wants to get out of the rathole so you're going to need to try to get a grip. I know it is waaaaay easier said than done and i have no experience with alcohol to provide me with knowledge so who am i to talk. All I have is a desire to see a guy with great potential take a detour.
sorry for sounding so rotten.
Posted by Angel Girl on January 12, 2005, at 13:46:19
In reply to Feeling Sorry For Myself » Angel Girl, posted by verne on January 12, 2005, at 9:48:38
verne
Doesn't sound like the beer was such a good idea. Do you not have a sponser that you should've called last night instead? How about going to an AA meeting today? As alexandra said, you gotta lay off the booze.
Living at a lake sounds so peaceful and serene to me.
You didn't explain why you feel that people hate you for jumping from church to church.
Please try to be stronger with your sobriety. If you don't attend AA meetings, why don't you find one and start and get yourself a sponser so you don't have a repeat of last night.
AG
> I had a good stretch of sobriety going and blew it last night. The movie I rented ("I Robot") was lousy (I liked the book better), the beer was skunky, and any euphoria quickly turned to crankiness and self-pity.
>
> Hungover but thankful it's not worse. I threw out about half the beer so I drank less.
>
> I hope to leave Iowa in a couple years when I get out of debt. (long story) This is a cheap place to live. Besides I'm in no shape to travel or make a move. My plan is to live on a beach or lake someday. (I'm semi-retired)
>
> A "trifecta" is a horse or dog racing term - a bet that picks the first three finishers. A trifecta can also mean any group of three. When I wrote (1) "nobody likes me" and (2) "I live like a hermit", I couldn't think of a third.
>
> verne
Posted by Angel Girl on January 12, 2005, at 13:51:32
In reply to Feeling Sorry For Myself » Angel Girl, posted by verne on January 12, 2005, at 9:48:38
Ooops!!! It wasn't alexandra. I should've said anastasia. My bad. Sorry!!!
AG
Posted by Cass on January 12, 2005, at 14:39:36
In reply to Nobody Likes Me and I Live like a Hermit, posted by verne on January 12, 2005, at 1:31:14
I can relate to not liking grocery stores. I'm very nervous about going in them. I've always felt that the most narrow-minded, conservative, "society people" shopped at mainstream grocery stores. I don't mean to offend anyone. I realize this may just be my own mis-perception. I only shop at health food stores like Whole Foods or at Trader Joe's. I feel much more comfortable there.
Posted by partlycloudy on January 12, 2005, at 15:02:35
In reply to Re: Grocery shopping » verne, posted by Cass on January 12, 2005, at 14:39:36
I get my best panic attacks in grocery stores. And heaven forbid if the cashier can't identify the food I'm buying ("what do you use THAT for?"). If I could buy my groceries online I would, I would, I would.
What about the cashiers and baggers who talk to each other and ignore you? Actually, I challenge those people. I wave my hand at them and say in my most irritatingly cheerful voice, "I'm over here!"
With apologies to any babblers who work in a grocery store.
Posted by partlycloudy on January 12, 2005, at 17:36:07
In reply to Nobody Likes Me and I Live like a Hermit, posted by verne on January 12, 2005, at 1:31:14
you were using to beat yourself up with. Now your hands are free to give yourself a hug.
While we're at it, I can top your "I'm a worm" story: I held a party last summer. Invited - in person - all my female neighbours. Thought we'd bond, ya-ya-sisterhood-not-really, but at least put names to faces.
Out of the 30 "ladies" I'd invited, one showed up.
End of story.
Oh, except I no longer try to talk with anyone unless they start it. It hurts too much otherwise.
Posted by verne on January 12, 2005, at 21:00:40
In reply to Verne, I took away that stick, posted by partlycloudy on January 12, 2005, at 17:36:07
Posted by Jai Narayan on January 12, 2005, at 22:07:22
In reply to Thanks for taking Away that Stick (nm) » partlycloudy, posted by verne on January 12, 2005, at 21:00:40
Verne,
you are such a special person with such sensitivity and humor...
I can't imagine anyone....
what I am trying to say is...
you are so wonderful.
you will always be special and loved by me.
I work in a natural foods coop grocery store.why do I only see the wonderful and special person you are?
I have followed your posts for a while.
you have been completely endearing and true.
Verne know that you are a very special person to me.
Ja* Narayan
Posted by Angel Girl on January 12, 2005, at 22:18:05
In reply to Verne, I took away that stick, posted by partlycloudy on January 12, 2005, at 17:36:07
Posted by just plain jane on January 12, 2005, at 22:38:21
In reply to Verne, I took away that stick, posted by partlycloudy on January 12, 2005, at 17:36:07
Sounds like your neighbors coud be a bunch of snobby people.
IMO, you're better off not trying to be one of that group.
just plain stating my opinion jane
Posted by just plain jane on January 12, 2005, at 23:03:15
In reply to Nobody Likes Me and I Live like a Hermit, posted by verne on January 12, 2005, at 1:31:14
it seems nobody likes you BECAUSE you live like a hermit.
And, perhaps I am full of bullshyt.
Probably a little right in both cases.
Now, that gettin drunk was sure a good idea, I tell you, boy howdy. Maybe next time you'll have a blackout and go beyond the front door in your skivvies. No tellin' where you'll wake up if that happens.
That was the norm for me for a number of years. Finished my forty ouncer for breakfast for a while. Lived in my broken down van on a side street, with my dogs and my best friend. Bathed in the nearby a$$freezin river.
Woke up in a strange house one morning, saw about a dozen people sleepin all over the house, knew not a one. Went outside and headed down the sidewalk having no idea where i was and hoping i was still in the same town.
Gosh, that was such a fun time. Think I'll get plastered one of these nights just to see where I wake up.
You order your groceries online. OK, if you can do it, it must not be an uncommon thing. You answer the door in your skivs, what do you care if the UPS or Fed-Ex guy doesn't like it? He doesn't get paid to care if you are dressed, he gets paid to deliver your stuff.
I'm going nuts here 'cause I got nothing sweet to eat and the nearest open store is eight miles from here and guess what, verne... I live with my nine dogs, three horses and one cat and only see other people when I have to go shopping or to my shrink and therapist and that's more than enough seeing people for me.
So, helI yeah, I'm just rattling on and on, but that's one of the things i do well, so why the heIl not?
BTW, I LIKE living the way I do. If I could get my groceries delivered you bet your a$$ I would.
Stop drinking.
Figure out which of your behaviors you want to eliminate and which you want to keep and work toward those goals.
Sounds simple on paper.
just plain ramblin jane
Posted by verne on January 13, 2005, at 2:37:59
In reply to okay verne....you know I find you...., posted by Jai Narayan on January 12, 2005, at 22:07:22
Jai,
thanks for your heartfelt encouragement. i don't feel quite so alone.
verne
Posted by partlycloudy on January 13, 2005, at 4:22:47
In reply to divergent fiber of the thread » partlycloudy, posted by just plain jane on January 12, 2005, at 22:38:21
snowbirds and retirees.
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 13, 2005, at 11:03:21
In reply to Nobody Likes Me and I Live like a Hermit, posted by verne on January 12, 2005, at 1:31:14
> I need one more thing for the trifecta.
OK, I can't argue about the hermit thing, but the "nobody likes me" thing is just plain wrong. You're looking in the wrong direction, dude. Looking inside all those churches isn't where you're going to find being liked. Look around you, here.
Lar
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