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Posted by 64bowtie on July 28, 2004, at 2:51:27
Does the average person crying out for help, who finds their way to posting and sharing with DrBob and Babble:
1. ...see what is going on in their lives as needing intervention in order to find relief and recovery? Is "free and happy" possible?
Please consider and respond... I can't know this all on my own...
Rod
Posted by partlycloudy on July 28, 2004, at 8:23:08
In reply to I need help from y'alls..., posted by 64bowtie on July 28, 2004, at 2:51:27
(((Rod))) I absolutely cannot do this on my own. I require the assistance of my p-doc. I require the assistance of my T. I require the additional assistance of EMDR therapy. My T and I talked extensively about happiness. We concur that happiness is not necessarily what we are trying to find here. It's contentment. With myself, with my life, with my choices. When I finally accepted that it was something I wouldn't be able to figure out on my own, and couldn't continue to self medicate with alcohol and weed, I started to get better. It helps for me to realize that it's taken me 42 years to get this messed up, so straightening myself out is going to be a long process. I'm OK with that - just popping a pill or talking for an hour isn't going to cure me. It will be an accumulation of learning new habits, sharing my experiences so I don't feel so very alone, and accepting that medication is not a bad thing. It's helping me to live better.
Posted by fallsfall on July 28, 2004, at 8:44:26
In reply to I need help from y'alls..., posted by 64bowtie on July 28, 2004, at 2:51:27
By following my best judgement and intuition (and whatever reading I could do) I got into this "place". Clearly relying solely on myself is not working.
Posted by fayeroe on July 28, 2004, at 8:45:12
In reply to Re: I need help from y'alls... » 64bowtie, posted by partlycloudy on July 28, 2004, at 8:23:08
I concur with PC...I can't do this alone. In fact, I don't know anyone who has done it alone successfully. I have some friends who are in such denial about their life that they won't consider getting any help.....but those demons play out in their lives til they are out of control.......so, obviously, I believe in getting help. I've done the therapy part, the meds, yoga, etc. And I'll always be working on myself. p.s. how did you come up with your name, 64bowtie??
Posted by Miss Honeychurch on July 28, 2004, at 8:52:32
In reply to I need help from y'alls..., posted by 64bowtie on July 28, 2004, at 2:51:27
Posted by B2chica on July 28, 2004, at 9:28:43
In reply to I need help from y'alls..., posted by 64bowtie on July 28, 2004, at 2:51:27
I knew i needed some help, but had no idea from where. i now have a GP, pdoc, T, and Babblers helping me. If i were to loose any one of these it would devistate me. and i do believe free and happiness is possible while living- i have to believe that. now, do i think i deserve it? not really, do i think i'll obtain it?? just don't know. But i think everyone (else) deserves this and i am pretty d@mn sure it will happen for you Rod chevyman.
Honestly i'm not even close to seeing the light of reaching this-but that's ok, cuz for now i just want to get out of this shameful, painful dark. once all this confusion and pain is out of the way-then i'll start hoping for happiness. till then...i'm just taking one step at a time. i can't/won't ask for more than that-that's all any of us can do. one step, one day at a time.
take care (((((((((Rod)))))))))
b2c.
Posted by TexasChic on July 28, 2004, at 9:32:06
In reply to I need help from y'alls..., posted by 64bowtie on July 28, 2004, at 2:51:27
He said y'alls. Ha, ha! Just kidding Rod. I'm not sure I understand the question, but I'll answer as if I do. Actually, I'll rephrase it as I understand it.
Does the person crying out for help find their way to babble because they need intervention for recovery?
I think I came to babble more as a way to study myself and get the insight of others. A different person can give you a different viewpoint on the same situation, causing you to think about it in a new way. I feel like it was more self discovery that brought me here.Is "free and happy" possible? I don't think its possible to be happy 100% of the time. So how much of a percentage do you need to be considered happy? I think it comes down to the individual. And I think the human race will always be on a continuous search for happiness. However, I don't think treating my depression is a way to find happiness. I think it is just treating an illness so that I can actually participate in the search for happiness, if that makes any sense.
And I have to say to Rod, you had a tough time when you first started posting (I remember you as 'Dr. Rod"). And now you are a active participant that everyone enjoys speaking with. I admire your perseverance and willingness to overcome the challanges you faced. And you and B2chica sound like you're practically having an affair! (Ha, ha!) I'm glad you found your niche. I always knew you had it in you, it just wasn't as easy for all to see.
((Rod)) (My first cyber hug!)
Posted by AuntieMel on July 28, 2004, at 9:58:12
In reply to I need help from y'alls..., posted by 64bowtie on July 28, 2004, at 2:51:27
The other option would be that we were all just surfin' the net happy as a clam, stumbled onto babble and decided to have a lark. And some of us (not me, unfortunately) just hung around for a few years out of boredom.
My guess would be that, with the exception of a couple of pranksters that show up from time to time, everyone is here for the same reason. We are all hurting in some non-physical manner and want to find a way for it to stop.
And for happiness - I know what it is to be happier (less sad) but I don't have a clue if I was truly happy then. So much for 'if you never had it, you don't miss it'
A quote I heard a while back - "Happiness isn't having everything you want. Happyness is wanting what you have." (don't know who said it or I'd give credit) That's a twist in thinking I'm striving for.
Posted by Indie on July 28, 2004, at 10:53:04
In reply to I need help from y'alls..., posted by 64bowtie on July 28, 2004, at 2:51:27
Hey Rod...I don't believe we've met...
As for me, I definately started posting here when I was in dire need of support. I have been reading here for a long time, but never felt that I *needed* the support. I have always had friends, had good jobs, had a good life. But I also have struggled with severe bipolar depression for my entire adult life-and before without diagnosis. It was only when I fell flat on my face, no job, incomplete masters degree and few friends. I started posting here because I DESPERATELY needed people who understand and who could remind my that this will pass. I am now so depressed and hopeless that I can barely move on most days and I cry constantly. I now really wish that I had seen that I have really always needed that support. I wish now that I had started posting before things had gotten soooo bad. I think the support may have helped me to not spiral so far into the blackness. I am almost positive that the support would have stopped me from attempting suicide....I am not sure if I am really answering your question, but yes I definately came here in search and recovery and the support I need to find it.
Is free and happy possible?? Yes!! On my better days I can remember feeling it and I am detirmined to find it again!!
I am reading a book right now called "The Mood Cure" by Julia Ross. It is a great reference for alternative interventions, but the reason I mention it is because she talks about false moods and true moods. True moods are those that are appropriate to your life situation: mad at somebody for standing you up, grief for somebody who died, sad because you lost a friend, etc. False moods are feeling sad all the time with no life events to warrant them, getting angry and "snapping" for no reason, etc.
My point is, you will never be free from "true moods," life deals some hard blows and there will be bad feelings along with them. I believe that you can be free from false moods with the right support, the right medical interventions and alot of inward searching to discover what really causes the bad feelings and what really makes you happy.
I hope that all of that answers your questions...
Posted by fayeroe on July 28, 2004, at 11:54:30
In reply to Re: I need help from y'alls..., posted by fayeroe on July 28, 2004, at 8:45:12
i came here looking for relief from EffexorXR....i wanted off of it because i was losing weight at an alarming pace. eventually my pharmacist helped me get off of it.
Posted by pegasus on July 28, 2004, at 13:26:20
In reply to I need help from y'alls..., posted by 64bowtie on July 28, 2004, at 2:51:27
Hmm. Those sound like two only marginally related questions. So I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're trying to learn.
I came to therapy because I wasn't managing very well on my own, and needed professional help. Which I am getting. I came to babble because therapy was so difficult to talk about with my family & friends, and I wanted to talk to others who had experience with it. I think I was looking for validation and support, and a forum for discussing some taboo things (at least in my usual social circles). Which I found.
I believe that happiness and freedom are achievable. I have experienced a drastically increased sense of both since I started in therapy.
pegasus
Posted by 64bowtie on July 28, 2004, at 14:15:03
In reply to plural of y'all is all y'all :) (nm) » 64bowtie, posted by Miss Honeychurch on July 28, 2004, at 8:52:32
Posted by Poet on July 28, 2004, at 14:23:08
In reply to I need help from y'alls..., posted by 64bowtie on July 28, 2004, at 2:51:27
Hi Rod,
I don't know about free and happy, I'll settle for independent and less miserable.
Seriously, I can't do it on my own, even though I try to push away my therapist and now my pdoc by self medicating with alcohol which counteracts the meds. I need their help, it's overcoming my need to be perfect and do it on my own that's hard- veryh ard. That's where babble really helps. Everyone, here, shows me that I'm not weak to need help and not alone in trying to reject it.
Poet
Posted by TexasChic on July 28, 2004, at 14:49:36
In reply to Plural is all y'all :) »((((Miss Honeychurch)))) (nm), posted by 64bowtie on July 28, 2004, at 14:15:03
I actually heard a 22 year old girl say that. And she wasn't even from the country or anything. I thought it was pretty funny.
Posted by fayeroe on July 28, 2004, at 14:58:27
In reply to Other TX sayings: Fixin to come a downpour, posted by TexasChic on July 28, 2004, at 14:49:36
Okies say it too. we also say "rode hard and put up wet"...."you look like the dogs have had you under the house".....on and on.....but "fixin" is one of my favourites and i've tried to quit saying it....to no avail...
Posted by TexasChic on July 28, 2004, at 15:32:21
In reply to Other TX sayings: Fixin to come a downpour » TexasChic, posted by fayeroe on July 28, 2004, at 14:58:27
I've heard "rode hard and put up wet" but not the other one. And I will never quit saying fixin becaue I see no reason to. :-)
I've heard all of these...
Looks like someone beat him with an ugly stick.
There's more than one way to skin a rabbit.
Funny as all get-out.
I wouldn't trust him any farther than I can throw him.
Come hell or high water.
Lord willing and the creek don't rise.
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 28, 2004, at 21:45:24
In reply to Re: I need help from y'alls... » 64bowtie, posted by Indie on July 28, 2004, at 10:53:04
> I am reading a book right now called "The Mood Cure" by Julia Ross. It is a great reference for alternative interventions, but the reason I mention it is because she talks about false moods and true moods...
I'd just like to plug the double double quotes feature at this site:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#amazon
The first time anyone refers to a book without using this option, I post this to try to make sure he or she at least knows about it. It's just an option, though, and doesn't *have* to be used. If people *choose* not to use it, I'd be interested why not, but I'd like that redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020918/msgs/7717.html
Thanks!
Bob
Posted by Indie on July 28, 2004, at 22:10:54
In reply to Re: double double quotes » Indie, posted by Dr. Bob on July 28, 2004, at 21:45:24
Thanks.
I was actually wondering how people were doing that.
Posted by Indie on July 28, 2004, at 22:15:13
In reply to Re: I need help from y'alls... » 64bowtie, posted by Indie on July 28, 2004, at 10:53:04
In reference to the book that I referenced, here is the link:
At the request of Dr. Bob himself :-)
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 29, 2004, at 4:15:37
In reply to Book, posted by Indie on July 28, 2004, at 22:15:13
Posted by B2chica on July 29, 2004, at 9:06:17
In reply to Re: I need help from y'alls..., posted by TexasChic on July 28, 2004, at 9:32:06
can you see i'm blushing!!
;^)
>>And you and B2chica sound like you're practically having an affair! (Ha, ha!)
Posted by TexasChic on July 29, 2004, at 10:57:20
In reply to Re: I need help from y'alls... » TexasChic, posted by B2chica on July 29, 2004, at 9:06:17
I wondered when you were going to see that. There was a thread going back and forth between you two that was like, "You're the greatest" – "No you are!" or something like that. I just had to tease you about it. ;-)
Posted by B2chica on July 29, 2004, at 11:31:09
In reply to Re: I need help from y'alls... » B2chica, posted by TexasChic on July 29, 2004, at 10:57:20
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