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Posted by Dinah on November 6, 2003, at 21:03:54
Biofeedback guy had an interesting way to look at the mood cycling. He said my body might be trained to release certain chemicals at certain times. That my body might expect to have certain things happen and so they do. I'm not explaining this at all well. And I'm making it sound like he was suggesting it was my fault or I was making it happen or something, and that wasn't it at all.
Perhaps he'll expound on his theory more another time.
Posted by KellyD on November 6, 2003, at 21:38:14
In reply to Too tired to breathe, posted by Dinah on November 6, 2003, at 21:03:54
I think I get it - at least on a daily routine as evidence. I worked nights forever and now, during the time that I would be preparing for work - well, that's sometimes my worse time for emotional nasties to come up. I don't work that anymore, but it still seems to happen. It's as if I'm programed. Strange. Am I anywhere close to what you're talking about? or way off base?
Posted by deirdrehbrt on November 7, 2003, at 8:52:10
In reply to Too tired to breathe, posted by Dinah on November 6, 2003, at 21:03:54
Dinah,
You explained it really quite well, or so I think. The way I understand it from what you said is this: Every BODY is used to a way of living. A runner (mind) is used to runnning, but her body is used to running too. If the runner doesn't get the chance to run, both body and mind will feel it; it's the same with an addict; both body and mind are looking for that fix.
We all have rhythms, we all experience things periodically. Again, it's mind and body. The needs we experience, the feelings, are all a part of us. Some of them, we may have convinced our bodies and minds to need, and others we may not have. Some of them, like addictions may be our faults, while others may have developed due to circumstance, or heredity. In any case, we have them now, and we need to learn either to let them go, or to live with them. Looking for the cause may help us emotionally, but finding the cause doesn't always help to eliminate the problem.
Anyway, that's just the way I see it.
Good luck,
Dee.
Posted by Dinah on November 7, 2003, at 9:57:58
In reply to Re: Too tired to breathe, posted by KellyD on November 6, 2003, at 21:38:14
If I feel comfortable with him, I'll try to get further clarification. But you both seem to be describing it.
The nice thing was that while he didn't make it sound like I was doing this to myself, he did make it sound as if it could be altered. That you could get the body to "expect" to behave differenly. I guess it's the biofeedback guy in him to believe we can affect our automatic processes. He also thought we could work on visualization techniques to calm my flaming amygdala.
I don't know if it'll work or not (and perhaps you have to have more belief than I do for it to work) but it's a hopeful concept.
Posted by KellyD on November 7, 2003, at 10:48:13
In reply to Too tired to breathe, posted by Dinah on November 6, 2003, at 21:03:54
I think somtimes when I realize that's a programmed response I'm "feeling" it helps(just to be aware of that) and distraction is my tool - sometimes works and other times not. To update, if you care to read on. Trial isn't going too bad, some minor annoyances, but nothing major. I think I'm settling down a bit and not as strongly believing this would be hell - that has helped.
I enjoy your post. The concept is quite interesting, I've read some about it and have a friend of a friend who used biofeedback with pain issues... it's interesting.
Kelly
Posted by Dinah on November 7, 2003, at 11:31:45
In reply to Tell us more..., posted by KellyD on November 7, 2003, at 10:48:13
I'm so glad your medication trial is going better than you expected! Sometimes things really work out well.
I'll let you know more if he tells me more. I'm still really confused about the scope of this thing. On the one hand, it's expected to last eight to ten sessions. But he also hints at what really seem like stretch goals that would surely take longer than ten weeks to implement. If mood cycles and flaming amygdalas can be tamed in ten weeks, I'll be *really* impressed. :)
Posted by femlite on November 10, 2003, at 0:09:02
In reply to Tell us more..., posted by KellyD on November 7, 2003, at 10:48:13
Hi KeelyD
Im I correct in assuming this is the WB trial?
If so Im glad to hear it is working out so well.
I get every SE in the book so Im no judge. But once things settled down as you say, so far so good.
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