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Re: please be civil » Larry Hoover

Posted by Dr. Bob on October 21, 2003, at 0:56:53

In reply to Re: OK, how about the redneck test?, posted by Larry Hoover on October 20, 2003, at 18:52:22

> You Know You're a Redneck When...

Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel put down. This has come up before:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030120/msgs/35991.html

And it would be nice not to have to go through that again. BTW, I especially liked:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030201/msgs/36076.html

Thanks,

Bob

 

OMG, that was so true!! :-) (nm) » galkeepinon

Posted by judy1 on October 21, 2003, at 9:06:41

In reply to Re: OK, how about California Driving?, posted by galkeepinon on October 20, 2003, at 20:09:28

 

Redneck Humor and Civility

Posted by Susan J on October 21, 2003, at 10:11:01

In reply to Re: please be civil » Larry Hoover, posted by Dr. Bob on October 21, 2003, at 0:56:53

I'm gonna catch it for this, aren't I? Larry's post didn't offend me at all....

I was born and raised in Scaggsville. I know how to siphon gas out of a car, my *playhouse* was an old metal shed in the back yard, we regularly salvaged old wood from abandoned houses to make new stuff, my best female friend got a deer stand and compound bow for her 16th birthday, my neighbor would butcher game down in the basement, and my dad would put matches out in kerosene for fun.

I'm a redneck. I thought those jokes were funny. As hard as I try, I don't get offended by them. Laughing at oneself is some of the funniest stuff of all. I particularly love blonde jokes and lawyer jokes. :-)

Susan (related to the Scaggs of Scaggsville). Who is grateful she knows how to change drum brakes on a car and use a miter saw.

 

Re: Congratulations, Oddipus. :-)

Posted by Dinah on October 21, 2003, at 10:18:00

In reply to Re: please be civil » Larry Hoover, posted by Dr. Bob on October 21, 2003, at 0:56:53

I do miss you, you know. But your influence lives on.

 

Re: Redneck Humor and Civility » Susan J

Posted by Larry Hoover on October 21, 2003, at 10:43:39

In reply to Redneck Humor and Civility, posted by Susan J on October 21, 2003, at 10:11:01

> I'm gonna catch it for this, aren't I? Larry's post didn't offend me at all....
>
> I was born and raised in Scaggsville. I know how to siphon gas out of a car, my *playhouse* was an old metal shed in the back yard, we regularly salvaged old wood from abandoned houses to make new stuff, my best female friend got a deer stand and compound bow for her 16th birthday, my neighbor would butcher game down in the basement, and my dad would put matches out in kerosene for fun.
>
> I'm a redneck. I thought those jokes were funny. As hard as I try, I don't get offended by them. Laughing at oneself is some of the funniest stuff of all. I particularly love blonde jokes and lawyer jokes. :-)
>
> Susan (related to the Scaggs of Scaggsville). Who is grateful she knows how to change drum brakes on a car and use a miter saw.

Why don't you send me your picture? Maybe *we* should date? ;-)

Lar

 

Re: Redneck Humor and Civility » Larry Hoover

Posted by Susan J on October 21, 2003, at 11:17:16

In reply to Re: Redneck Humor and Civility » Susan J, posted by Larry Hoover on October 21, 2003, at 10:43:39

> Why don't you send me your picture? Maybe *we* should date? ;-)
>
> Lar
>

LOL!! Yeah, I'm sure your wife would appreciate that. :-p

 

Re: Redneck Humor and Civility

Posted by Larry Hoover on October 21, 2003, at 11:32:43

In reply to Re: Redneck Humor and Civility » Larry Hoover, posted by Susan J on October 21, 2003, at 11:17:16

> > Why don't you send me your picture? Maybe *we* should date? ;-)
> >
> > Lar
> >
>
> LOL!! Yeah, I'm sure your wife would appreciate that. :-p

I'm not married. I'm divorced. I live alone, and have for some years now.

Lar

 

Re: addendum

Posted by Larry Hoover on October 21, 2003, at 11:50:09

In reply to Re: Redneck Humor and Civility, posted by Larry Hoover on October 21, 2003, at 11:32:43


> I'm not married. I'm divorced. I live alone, and have for some years now.
>
> Lar

I should have kept talking.....

I live alone by choice, as I find that my self-care requirements are burdensome on others. When I need to simplify my life, to cope with the vagaries of my well-being, I restrict my interaction with the world while I rest. That is not a personal decision; it is not a desire to be away from anyone in particular. Yet, that is how it has been seen, in the past. It is simply a reflection of my temporary state, not a commentary on the quality of a relationship. I would not inflict my needs on another, at this point in time. It would be difficult for someone else to cope with my needs.

I have been very ill. I do not yet have confidence that I will remain in a state of relative well-being. It has been a long road back to functionality, and I'll just see how things go, before I even consider developing an interpersonal relationship with anyone.

Just felt a need to explain myself more fully.

Lar

 

Re: Redneck Humor and Civility » Larry Hoover

Posted by Susan J on October 21, 2003, at 11:58:46

In reply to Re: Redneck Humor and Civility, posted by Larry Hoover on October 21, 2003, at 11:32:43

Larry,

>
> I'm not married. I'm divorced. I live alone, and have for some years now.
>


<<Now, see, I was so sure to the point of almost betting my life on it that you said *your wife* in one of your postings when I first started reading this board....

I need to pay better attention. :-)

Susan

 

Re: addendum » Larry Hoover

Posted by Susan J on October 21, 2003, at 12:04:00

In reply to Re: addendum, posted by Larry Hoover on October 21, 2003, at 11:50:09

Larry,

>>When I need to simplify my life, to cope with the vagaries of my well-being, I restrict my interaction with the world while I rest.
<<There are some *huge* advantages to living alone... :-)

> I have been very ill. I do not yet have confidence that I will remain in a state of relative well-being. It has been a long road back to functionality, and I'll just see how things go, before I even consider developing an interpersonal relationship with anyone.
<<I'm sorry you have felt so badly.....I'm feeling pretty good these days, and yet I always wonder, to the point of obsession sometimes, if and when it's *going* to strike again. Having had a history major depressive episodes, the last one being by far the worst, I can't possibly believe it's not gonna come back. And I'm still digging myself out of the damage I've done to my life with this last one.

But I hope you have some good, healthy, strong relationships with some friends/family. Complete isolation, as I'm sure you know, can be harmful in its own right. This past bout of depression really defined for me who my good family/friends were, and who were simply plain toxic....

Hugs,

Susan

 

Re: Redneck Humor and Civility » Susan J

Posted by Larry Hoover on October 21, 2003, at 12:10:06

In reply to Re: Redneck Humor and Civility » Larry Hoover, posted by Susan J on October 21, 2003, at 11:58:46

> Larry,
>
> >
> > I'm not married. I'm divorced. I live alone, and have for some years now.
> >
>
>
> <<Now, see, I was so sure to the point of almost betting my life on it that you said *your wife* in one of your postings when I first started reading this board....
>
> I need to pay better attention. :-)
>
> Susan

No, it's quite possible that I slipped up. I still refer to my ex as my wife without thinking. My counsellor points it out to me, all the time. We have a good relationship. I'm still her best friend. We share custody, and work together on many issues.

Lar

 

Re: addendum » Susan J

Posted by Larry Hoover on October 21, 2003, at 12:15:03

In reply to Re: addendum » Larry Hoover, posted by Susan J on October 21, 2003, at 12:04:00


> <<I'm sorry you have felt so badly.....I'm feeling pretty good these days, and yet I always wonder, to the point of obsession sometimes, if and when it's *going* to strike again. Having had a history major depressive episodes, the last one being by far the worst, I can't possibly believe it's not gonna come back. And I'm still digging myself out of the damage I've done to my life with this last one.

I hear you, loud and clear. I'm more stable than I've been in years. I'm just not yet confident of the stability.

> But I hope you have some good, healthy, strong relationships with some friends/family.

You don't have to worry about that. I relate well with people.

> Complete isolation, as I'm sure you know, can be harmful in its own right.

What I'm referring to is solitude. I'm not lonely.

> This past bout of depression really defined for me who my good family/friends were, and who were simply plain toxic....

If that's what it takes for you to see the difference, I'm glad you crashed.... <hyperbole> I'm glad I've been where I've been. I can't ever lose the empathy I've achieved through my experiences. I can't ever trivialize the contributions of even complete strangers, to my well-being. I know how much it matters.

> Hugs,
>
> Susan

Hugs back at ya, sweetheart.

{{{{{{{Susan}}}}}}

Lar

 

Re: Redneck Humor and Civility » Susan J

Posted by Larry Hoover on October 21, 2003, at 12:16:25

In reply to Re: Redneck Humor and Civility » Larry Hoover, posted by Susan J on October 21, 2003, at 11:17:16

> > Why don't you send me your picture? Maybe *we* should date? ;-)
> >
> > Lar
> >
>
> LOL!! Yeah, I'm sure your wife would appreciate that. :-p

BTW, I *am* curious. If you care to, you might send it off to larryhooveratnexicomdotnet

Lar

 

Woo Hoo! (nm)

Posted by fallsfall on October 21, 2003, at 12:39:22

In reply to Re: Redneck Humor and Civility » Susan J, posted by Larry Hoover on October 21, 2003, at 12:16:25

 

Re: ??? (Spock eyebrow) (nm) » fallsfall

Posted by Larry Hoover on October 21, 2003, at 12:47:38

In reply to Woo Hoo! (nm), posted by fallsfall on October 21, 2003, at 12:39:22

 

Re: Woo Hoo! » fallsfall

Posted by Susan J on October 21, 2003, at 12:51:30

In reply to Woo Hoo! (nm), posted by fallsfall on October 21, 2003, at 12:39:22

And all this started over a Dilbert post by Jay....

:-)

 

Re: Redneck Humor and Civility » Susan J

Posted by Larry Hoover on October 21, 2003, at 14:14:02

In reply to Re: Redneck Humor and Civility » Larry Hoover, posted by Susan J on October 21, 2003, at 11:17:16

Did you get my email replies?

 

Re: Redneck Humor and Civility » Larry Hoover

Posted by Susan J on October 21, 2003, at 14:36:43

In reply to Re: Redneck Humor and Civility » Susan J, posted by Larry Hoover on October 21, 2003, at 14:14:02

> Did you get my email replies?

<<Yup, I sure did. Thanks. :-)

 

Re: :-) » Susan J

Posted by Dinah on October 21, 2003, at 16:20:45

In reply to Re: Redneck Humor and Civility » Larry Hoover, posted by Susan J on October 21, 2003, at 14:36:43

You both are terrific people, you know.

But I promise not to egg you on.

 

Re: :-) - Oops, and Larry. (nm)

Posted by Dinah on October 21, 2003, at 16:21:08

In reply to Re: :-) » Susan J, posted by Dinah on October 21, 2003, at 16:20:45

 

Dinah may promise, but I don't... (nm)

Posted by fallsfall on October 21, 2003, at 23:21:06

In reply to Re: :-) » Susan J, posted by Dinah on October 21, 2003, at 16:20:45

 

Redirected: Redneck Humor and Civility

Posted by Dr. Bob on October 22, 2003, at 1:29:43

In reply to Redneck Humor and Civility, posted by Susan J on October 21, 2003, at 10:11:01

> Larry's post didn't offend me at all....

I replied over at PBA:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20031008/msgs/271720.html

Bob

 

humor... of a family kind. » Dr. Bob

Posted by deirdrehbrt on October 22, 2003, at 13:09:29

In reply to Redirected: Redneck Humor and Civility, posted by Dr. Bob on October 22, 2003, at 1:29:43

I had married into a re.....er....deep-woods Pensylvanian family. My Father-in-law was known for his quirks. Upon first meeting my new family, prior to being engaged, I entered the house, and He, and my future Mother-in-law were watching XXX-rated movies. They politely invited me to sit with them. I declined the invitation.
During one meal, my Father-in-law was sitting at table, and my mother-in-law went to take his empty plate away. My newish dad quickly responded with his fork, and pinned her hand to the table.
Gaining culture, My in-laws took a cruise with friends. When the wait-person presents my 'Dad' with desert, my dad asked what it was. The waiter responds "Why it's chocolate mouse sir.". My 'Dad' responds with "Chocolate mouse? Looks like the moose got sick!"
There are many other tales, and it was an interesting family. I was divorced a few years ago, but I still see that part of the family. Everyone of these tales, when spoken about at family gatherings (my daughters' birthdays, etc.) still bring up chuckles.
I never thought about my Father-in-law as a bad person. He certainly has unique ways about him, and he does things that most people around here would consider odd. On the other hand, he is a man very generous with his time. He is never afraid to get dirty to help someone else work with their car. If someone is in need and he can help, he will.
He is a good worker. I also had the opportunity to work with him at a very large fortune 100 company. He was a manufacturing engineering technician, and could set up production lines to build just about anything. He is now retired.
I guess that my point is that we always joked about things, and the way he did them. The cultural differences were amusing, not threatening. I think cultural differences can be used for many different reasons. They can be used to put someone down. They can be used to bring cultures together. They can be used for humor, and they can be used to drive huge wedges.
Some forms of humor are best at different areas. You can tell a bit of humor, and it will make someone feel bad. You can tell the same thing, but with explanation first, and it won't hurt anyone's feelings, because they know where you are coming from.
I appreciate humor, sometimes even when it's directed at me, as long as it doesn't have a malicious intent. I classify family humor as being in the same area. If my Father-in-law read those anecdotes, he wouldn't be offended. I have no worry of waking with a 30-06 pointed at me and hearing the lever cocking the rifle. He is a good man, and likes humor, and has generated alot of it.
Dee.

 

Re: humor... of a family kind. » deirdrehbrt

Posted by Susan J on October 22, 2003, at 13:14:13

In reply to humor... of a family kind. » Dr. Bob, posted by deirdrehbrt on October 22, 2003, at 13:09:29

>>I guess that my point is that we always joked about things, and the way he did them. The cultural differences were amusing, not threatening. I think cultural differences can be used for many different reasons. They can be used to put someone down. They can be used to bring cultures together.

<<I really liked the way you said that. :-) A lot. I wish I could articulate my feelings so well.

Susan

 

Re: humor... of a family kind. » deirdrehbrt

Posted by DSCH on October 22, 2003, at 18:47:55

In reply to humor... of a family kind. » Dr. Bob, posted by deirdrehbrt on October 22, 2003, at 13:09:29

> I have no worry of waking with a 30-06 pointed at me and hearing the lever cocking the rifle.

That's because it would be a 30-30 rather than a 30-06. ;-) LOL

You're making me remember a lab technician I worked with who grew up very rural and did two tours with the Marines in Vietnam, getting badly wounded during Tet. I always valued his take on things as it was invariably practical and from a hands-on perspective while I was wet-behind-the-ears and full of theory rather than experience. His tendency to spin tall tales and wax rhapsodic about hunting and his gun collection made many of our coworkers uneasy but I always found it "colorful" instead. :-)


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