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Posted by a very little sphinx on June 18, 2003, at 22:52:18
When I am dead, and over me bright April
Shakes out her rain drenched hair,
Tho you should lean above me broken hearted,
I shall not care.
For I shall have peace.
As leafey trees are peaceful
When rain bends down the bough.
And I shall be more silent and cold hearted
Than you are now.Sara Teasdale, d. 1933
Posted by shar on June 18, 2003, at 23:22:17
In reply to i've made up my mind, i'm going to do it., soon., posted by a very little sphinx on June 18, 2003, at 22:52:18
There are, of course, innumerable reasons to end it all. A half a century of pain seemed quite sufficient to me. However, 'doing it', unless you are talking about sex, is not a task to be undertaken lightly.
Do not take us too lightly, as many of us have planned (quite cognizantly) to do it. Many of us have made attempts. Some succeeded.
Certainly, you have free will. I bet you also have the intelligence to realize and understand the significance and massive impact of what you are considering--if it is suicide.
It is always an option. Why not wait until you are 50? Then, you can say, I've given it a good go and it just did not work.
If you are crying wolf, take that into your heart, and consider those of us who were ready to go.
Your mystic messages may bring you some satisfaction, and engender a response (such as this one), but, unless you have clearly considered the impact of your actions upon yourself, us, and others, then you are being reckless with the one that in the world that is irreplaceable: Life.
Be that as it may, if you must leave soon, I wish you a fond farewell. And, I hope the aftermath is as good as, or better than, what you have now.
If it is possible that you are in a really, really bad place, and you feel sucidal, as many of us do, then I would recommend a less esoteric and more direct way of letting us know what is going on. But, the bottom line is, it is your choice.
I've felt suicidal for decades. I can relate. I want to save a life that may yet have hope. But, my suspicion is that you're not serious (or you would be speaking/writing seriously rather than in riddles/verbage) and you don't want help. Or, worst case scenario, you are just having fun with people like me, who hang on to every day with white knuckled determination to make it through.
Which is it?
Shar
Posted by justyourlaugh on June 19, 2003, at 0:07:43
In reply to if u r not 50, f'get it sphinx » a very little sphinx, posted by shar on June 18, 2003, at 23:22:17
hey,,
hurting is so shared on this board...
please,,i have been sleeping all month,,
however,,we all can help...
you can never go back...
and its not your right to descide you own time,,,
Posted by zenhussy on June 19, 2003, at 1:34:49
In reply to i've made up my mind, i'm going to do it., soon., posted by a very little sphinx on June 18, 2003, at 22:52:18
> When I am dead, and over me bright April
> Shakes out her rain drenched hair,
> Tho you should lean above me broken hearted,
> I shall not care.
> For I shall have peace.
> As leafey trees are peaceful
> When rain bends down the bough.
> And I shall be more silent and cold hearted
> Than you are now.
>
> Sara Teasdale, d. 1933a.v.l.s.,
if you are exiting please contact me before you go. I recall the kindness someone long ago showed to me when I was actively suicidal and I would like a chance to try to shower that kindness upon another. I understand and respect if that is not what you want to do.
Drawn quarter with the soft lips sweetly kissing your forehead.
Stay alive please dear.
zh.
Posted by bobby on June 19, 2003, at 8:20:36
In reply to i've made up my mind, i'm going to do it., soon., posted by a very little sphinx on June 18, 2003, at 22:52:18
Posted by OddipusRex on June 19, 2003, at 8:57:21
In reply to i've made up my mind, i'm going to do it., soon., posted by a very little sphinx on June 18, 2003, at 22:52:18
With daggers, bodkins, bullets, man can make
a bruise or break of exit for his life;
but is that a quietus, O’ tell me, is it quietus?
Surely not so! for how could murder, even self-murder ever a quietus make?
DH Laurence
Sphinx, why are you posting things that sound at least to me like threats? What do you expect from the people here?
Posted by mmcasey on June 19, 2003, at 9:01:03
In reply to Re: if u r not real, posted by justyourlaugh on June 19, 2003, at 0:07:43
> and its not your right to descide you own time,,,I'm just wondering why you say this? Isn't it everyone's right to make decisions about their own lives, whether it is something so serious and final as suicide, or something like if they are going to eat a piece of cake or not?
I am very big on personal rights (as well as personal responsibility) and making decisions for oneself, not being forced into things, stuff like that.
Posted by zenhussy on June 19, 2003, at 9:22:28
In reply to i've made up my mind, i'm going to do it., soon., posted by a very little sphinx on June 18, 2003, at 22:52:18
I hope that by saying you've made up your mind you mean you are making up your mind to go into hospital.
My prayers and sweet kisses are with you sphinx while I am away on this required trip I must go on.
Please take whatever measures you must to insure--to make certain especially by taking necessary measures and precautions--that you are still here in July.
My world would crumble without a mysterious little sphinx in it. I would be very, very sad.
I still respect your choices and will quietly keep you in my heart while I travel on this journey.
a very delicate *kiss* for a very little sphinx
zh.
Posted by a very little sphinx on June 19, 2003, at 11:42:05
In reply to Re: i've made up my mind, i'm going to do it., soon. » a very little sphinx, posted by OddipusRex on June 19, 2003, at 8:57:21
> Sphinx, why are you posting things that sound at least to me like threats? What do you expect from the people here?
im not threatening anyone... im just a wounded dog that is yelping out...
i've talked to doctors assessment people, they think i should go into the hospital today, i can't do that until friday...
i expect nothing, from anyone... when i get something i am pleasantly surprised.
how could i threaten anyone?
Posted by OddipusRex on June 19, 2003, at 11:52:37
In reply to Re: i've made up my mind, i'm going to do it., soon. » OddipusRex, posted by a very little sphinx on June 19, 2003, at 11:42:05
> > Sphinx, why are you posting things that sound at least to me like threats? What do you expect from the people here?
>
> im not threatening anyone... im just a wounded dog that is yelping out...
>
> i've talked to doctors assessment people, they think i should go into the hospital today, i can't do that until friday...
>
> i expect nothing, from anyone... when i get something i am pleasantly surprised.
>
> how could i threaten anyone?
The poem about death along with the title of your post might lead some people to think of suicide. (LOTS of wounded people here )I'm glad that wasn't your intention. Good luck with the hospital.
Posted by a very little sphinx on June 19, 2003, at 13:19:49
In reply to Re: i've made up my mind, i'm going to do it., soon. » a very little sphinx, posted by OddipusRex on June 19, 2003, at 11:52:37
> The poem about death along with the title of your post might lead some people to think of suicide. (LOTS of wounded people here )I'm glad that wasn't your intention. Good luck with the hospital.
suicide was my intention, but by morning i decided that i really didnt want to die, i just wanted to live without pain... we'll see if that can be achieved... the only thing that prevented me from killing myself last night was that i was nearly paralyzed and i thought to wait until friday... sorry to be grim... i've suffered loss too...
Posted by bobby on June 19, 2003, at 13:46:52
In reply to Re: i've made up my mind, i'm going to do it., soon. » OddipusRex, posted by a very little sphinx on June 19, 2003, at 13:19:49
just a little longer--at least until tomorrow o.k.? Some people care---I do
B
Posted by OddipusRex on June 19, 2003, at 16:11:52
In reply to Re: i've made up my mind, i'm going to do it., soon. » OddipusRex, posted by a very little sphinx on June 19, 2003, at 13:19:49
>
i've suffered loss too...
I know. I'm glad you didn't act on your feelings last night.
Posted by OddipusRex on June 20, 2003, at 8:16:38
In reply to Re: i've made up my mind, i'm going to do it., soon. » OddipusRex, posted by a very little sphinx on June 19, 2003, at 13:19:49
Hospital day. I woke up and thought about you and wanted to send you some good wishes. I hope it's the beginning of a less painful life for you. Don't worry about losing your creativity if you are not in constant anguish-I think you have plenty to spare (creativity I meant not anguish though that too probably).
Posted by lostsailor on June 20, 2003, at 19:25:28
In reply to It's Friday » a very little sphinx, posted by OddipusRex on June 20, 2003, at 8:16:38
er..."we" have a friend who "loves" you and is dealing with much sudden grief, grief (maybe you can add all up to self E='s mc squared) and, I think you have he/she/it/we/you/theys email or someone in common at least to post a note to if you Must say fare the well (and I don't want that)...they/he/it/they/you/she ect cares and is not here to say it to you or.... to relay it to you other than thru me (I think)
I know shi* about things, but we all know loss and have wished for closure at times when there was non....
for this person.
for yourself more, but I know the taste of hemlock and have spit...i will relay it YOU wish at my name and an _ + the the numerals of a Rush album@yahoo
i love you as a human, but have never swam in the nile yet dont want anymore to drown than ness.
and, yes, I know loss, but not yours
in peace,
~t
Posted by OddipusRex on June 20, 2003, at 21:02:33
In reply to Re: It's Friday...vls...please hold off till late, posted by lostsailor on June 20, 2003, at 19:25:28
Posted by OddipusRex on June 20, 2003, at 21:04:22
In reply to ooooooooooooooh secret codes (nm), posted by OddipusRex on June 20, 2003, at 21:02:33
Posted by OddipusRex on June 20, 2003, at 21:05:30
In reply to my how melodramatic (nm) » OddipusRex, posted by OddipusRex on June 20, 2003, at 21:04:22
Posted by OddipusRex on June 20, 2003, at 21:06:29
In reply to oh i'm poised on the edge hope this doesn't well (nm), posted by OddipusRex on June 20, 2003, at 21:05:30
Posted by OddipusRex on June 20, 2003, at 21:08:14
In reply to you know push me over (nm), posted by OddipusRex on June 20, 2003, at 21:06:29
Posted by OddipusRex on June 20, 2003, at 21:20:17
In reply to My PAIN and agony is enormous AND REAllllllllllll (nm), posted by OddipusRex on June 20, 2003, at 21:08:14
Posted by lostsailor on June 20, 2003, at 22:41:11
In reply to Die vile denizen of the out crowd gullible you (nm) » OddipusRex, posted by OddipusRex on June 20, 2003, at 21:20:17
Who are you to comment if it was towards MY post???
If it was stealth, it was not for me. I was not trying to be cute or poetic, or post to you!!-- but relaying a message for a "he/it/she/YOU/they ect" that, for the time being, is not her to post and would like to say and/or bid a friend "hello goodbye"
This is a open babble and you are more than welcome to post opinions, but is it fare to judge, when I am sure what brought you here was some sort of need at some point.
I hope you don't need help or not well, but that is only a good reason to help others that are and not to cast your negative values (which is how I read them. And, yes, when, I post, I post for me and those who are helping or in need of what I have to say as I am at times and can try my best to offer at others"
If you need us, you know darn well we are here for you. You should be happy for that and help or not say a word when something is NOT intended towards you.
Sticks and stones... and he who has no sin, cast the fist stone... at one of the only carnivorous dinosaurs.
Posted by OddipusRex on June 20, 2003, at 22:59:35
In reply to Re: please hold off till late--OR, posted by lostsailor on June 20, 2003, at 22:41:11
>
> Sticks and stones... and he who has no sin, cast the fist stone... at one of the only carnivorous dinosaurs.>
Posted by zenhussy on June 21, 2003, at 0:23:19
In reply to Re: please hold off till late--OR, posted by lostsailor on June 20, 2003, at 22:41:11
But that's never stopped me before.
lostsailor,
what a beautiful way to summerize how I feel about this open babble.
Thank you for sailing this way.
zh
again, am I being too secretive now? Am I speaking in code? Only those in the know will know.
sheesh! ; )
> Who are you to comment if it was towards MY post???
>
> If it was stealth, it was not for me. I was not trying to be cute or poetic, or post to you!!-- but relaying a message for a "he/it/she/YOU/they ect" that, for the time being, is not her to post and would like to say and/or bid a friend "hello goodbye"
>
> This is a open babble and you are more than welcome to post opinions, but is it fare to judge, when I am sure what brought you here was some sort of need at some point.
>
> I hope you don't need help or not well, but that is only a good reason to help others that are and not to cast your negative values (which is how I read them. And, yes, when, I post, I post for me and those who are helping or in need of what I have to say as I am at times and can try my best to offer at others"
>
> If you need us, you know darn well we are here for you. You should be happy for that and help or not say a word when something is NOT intended towards you.
>
> Sticks and stones... and he who has no sin, cast the fist stone... at one of the only carnivorous dinosaurs.
>
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 23, 2003, at 4:41:26
In reply to my how melodramatic (nm) » OddipusRex, posted by OddipusRex on June 20, 2003, at 21:04:22
> my how melodramatic
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, thanks.
Bob
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