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Posted by jay on March 14, 2003, at 23:52:03
Owww..man. She's sadly got my genes in this mess. The damn Effexor too...it creates both a horrid apathy and a bit of 'cycling' of emotions. (No she isn't BP, and yes depressives CAN cycle.) Thankfully she only took 10 Lorazepam, and her Dad got her to the ER at 4:30 am yesterday morning, got the Char, stomach pump, etc. This was her second time. Her f***ing doctor kept her on Effexor *only*, which does JACK Sh*T in my opinion. So, I drove up and we talked and talked and talked and talked and cried and cried and talked and talked. What triggered it was she was talking to one of her friends late last night, and canceled on them going out, and that really hurt my dear nieces fellings, and sent her over the edge, as she has been ON the edge, not getting proper effect from Effexor. (She has been on it for a year...) So I arranged for her to get into a psychopharmacologist at Clarke/University Of Toronto. I helped her Mom (my sister) and Dad with finding an excellent therapist also, so I hope this all goes through quick, and it should.It also made me realize I GOT to get myself straigtened out. I got to get my doctor to refer me to a psychopahrm, who he said he will, but I have been so apathetic, I let it all slide.
So..my dear Niece and I shall OVERCOME, as we say. I told her if she killed herself, her parents, me, her grandparents, her brothers, lives would be wrecked beyond repair, and she mind as well take us all with her. I would see no point in life..no point in life period if she did it. I saw my best friend at 18, who blew his brains out and I found him, and that nearly killed me, and his Dad died 6 years later by O.D.'ing, 4 brothers have all tried to kill themselves. I KNOW if she did it..I WOULD do it. No question.
Anyhow..okay just ramble...sorry....
Jay
Posted by justyourlaugh on March 15, 2003, at 0:11:20
In reply to My 19 year old Niece tried to kill herself today:(, posted by jay on March 14, 2003, at 23:52:03
sweety?
15th now
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hummmmmm
Posted by justyourlaugh on March 15, 2003, at 0:37:04
In reply to Re: My 19 year old Niece tried to kill herself today:( » jay, posted by justyourlaugh on March 15, 2003, at 0:11:20
jay?
dear jay...
freind.....
if i could brush your hair aside from your brow,
place a geltlekiss...
you did nt do it ,,you didnt cause this ,,,you cant make it go away...fix yourself...then..you can help her..you already know that..that,.s why it hurts.can you get my email adress off the enternet please?
gee
Posted by jay on March 15, 2003, at 0:46:24
In reply to what can i do best? » justyourlaugh, posted by justyourlaugh on March 15, 2003, at 0:37:04
> jay?
> dear jay...
> freind.....
> if i could brush your hair aside from your brow,
> place a geltlekiss...
> you did nt do it ,,you didnt cause this ,,,you cant make it go away...fix yourself...then..you can help her..you already know that..that,.s why it hurts.
>
> can you get my email adress off the enternet please?
> gee
Yes I can get your email addy and have. The responses are soon...Thank you vewy much for your thoughts..really..really..
Posted by bozeman on March 15, 2003, at 1:16:27
In reply to My 19 year old Niece tried to kill herself today:(, posted by jay on March 14, 2003, at 23:52:03
(((jay)))
I'm so sorry! I'm glad you are there for her, though. God Bless you for helping her and her (your) family through this. Will pray for both of you.
bozeman
Posted by jay on March 15, 2003, at 2:49:39
In reply to Re: My 19 year old Niece tried to kill herself tod » jay, posted by bozeman on March 15, 2003, at 1:16:27
Thank you so kindly. It's like...Damnit..she is 19...I changed her diapers and remember the day she was born.She is such an amazing sweetie...she has a smile and laugh that is beyond amazing, and is going to be a pro photographer (she is going to arts college). My best bud's only child, his daughter died at 19 in a car accident 7 years ago..and she looked just like my niece (they both look like Drew Barrymoore)...and my niece is almost like a daughter to me. Anything happened to her, I wouldn't go on..period. But, what is important is getting her better. I am so lucky, I've got a very, very functional, loving family, and we all support each other. It is the world *out there* that is just so damn horrible. So much greed, selfishness, arrogance, aggressiveness, ehhhhhggg!!
Anyhow..thanks for listening, and the sweet kind words...really, and I wish and hope all is well with you. Peace and prayers,
Jay
Posted by Alara on March 15, 2003, at 4:32:47
In reply to My 19 year old Niece tried to kill herself today:(, posted by jay on March 14, 2003, at 23:52:03
(((((jay))))) I'm so sorry that you've had to go through this.
Maybe you and your niece will gain a lot from working through life's problems together. It sounds as though you are kindred spirits. Where there's life there's hope. :-)
Let us know how she progresses.
Alara
Posted by noa on March 15, 2003, at 7:49:13
In reply to My 19 year old Niece tried to kill herself today:(, posted by jay on March 14, 2003, at 23:52:03
Sorry to hear that, and so glad her dad got her to hospital right away. I'm sure you are of great help to them as they go through this.
Posted by lauran on March 15, 2003, at 11:21:13
In reply to My 19 year old Niece tried to kill herself today:(, posted by jay on March 14, 2003, at 23:52:03
Hi Jay. Just wanting to encourage you to continue "rambling" whenever you want to. Hang in there. We all care.
Posted by jay on March 15, 2003, at 14:59:28
In reply to My 19 year old Niece tried to kill herself today:(, posted by jay on March 14, 2003, at 23:52:03
Hey guys...thanks, really, for your wonderful and supportive posts. It means *a lot* to me! In fact it is times like these that restore my faith in humanity, and realize most people are good who mean good. So, don't forget this, and don't forget so much of the goodness you have in your hearts, and let that be your shining star in the really dark times. Especially when you are in the "gutter", and it seems there is no hope...no hope at all. There *is* hope, and it is that special and often secret place inside of you guys that makes it that way. I don't mean to sound so, uhh, "mushy", because I mean this *sincerely*, so please realize how much good you have done and how much you have inside yourselves.Peace, hope, love, and happiness to and for you all...
Jay :)
Posted by judy1 on March 15, 2003, at 21:38:59
In reply to My 19 year old Niece tried to kill herself today:(, posted by jay on March 14, 2003, at 23:52:03
If it's any consolation- I made my first attempt as a teen and was fortunate enough to have someone in my life much like you. It will make a huge impact on her to have someone who understands her illness to lean on and it sounds like you are doing everything you possibly can to be there for her. take care of yourself too- judy
Posted by sienna on March 15, 2003, at 21:47:28
In reply to My 19 year old Niece tried to kill herself today:(, posted by jay on March 14, 2003, at 23:52:03
Jay im so sorry that is so sad.
you are such a good friend to her she is lucky to have you. i hope you are feeling better today.
sienna
Posted by shar on March 15, 2003, at 21:52:02
In reply to **ALL**..you folks are *amazing*..don't forget it!, posted by jay on March 15, 2003, at 14:59:28
Jay,
So sorry about your near loss. That is terrifying. Your niece is a lucky young woman to have you in her life, especially since you will probably make a difference to her whole life by helping her get effective meds and therapy. How many of us here would love to go back to 19 if we had faith the next 30 years might feel good? What a gift to her!
Also, I want to make sure you take to heart your own words; they apply to you, too. I often find myself saying things to others that are warm and caring, and then move on to beating myself up. Did not want you to do that! Read this:
> don't forget so much of the goodness you have in your hearts, and let that be your shining star in the really dark times. Especially when you are in the "gutter", and it seems there is no hope...no hope at all. There *is* hope, and it is that special and often secret place inside of you that makes it that way. ...please realize how much good you have done and how much you have inside yourselves.
>
> Peace, hope, love, and happiness to and for you all...Got it now, Jay?
Shar
Posted by Willow on March 17, 2003, at 9:05:18
In reply to **ALL**..you folks are *amazing*..don't forget it!, posted by jay on March 15, 2003, at 14:59:28
Funny how you mentioned two young women looking like Drew Barrymore, because a precious young one who holds a chunk of my heart also reminds me of her. (One movie with her in it that I especially enjoyed she played the role of Cinderella.) She's moved on from our little town up north here, south closer to yourself.
And here steps in the little depressive mind of mine, when you mentioned that a similiar looking child died in a car accident my heart did a flop wondering if it was my teenager. Of course not, and I caught my negative thinking which in the past I would have let run free. By hooking her up with the Clarke I'm sure she'll get the help needed so she'll be able to put the little bumps and real frost heaves of life into prospective.
I've hooked up with a psychiatrist (which was suppose to be just for an evalution, because I've been adamant that they are more warped than their patients, but being who she is I've been pleasantly suprised by her "common sense") and she is looking after my mental health meds and issues regarding the reasons I'm on them. Now I'm acutally finding myself in the morning preening in the mirror like the little woman from the past who's (pardon the expression) life was interrupted for two decades by mental health issues.
Hopefully, your nieces journey will be brighter than ours through those first decades as an adult. Well I'm off to dig little creeks for the run off.
BEST WISHES
Northern Willow with rubbers on
Posted by Dr Eamerz on March 17, 2003, at 9:20:52
In reply to Youngs Ones » jay, posted by Willow on March 17, 2003, at 9:05:18
Kazoo was paging for you.
Posted by Willow on March 17, 2003, at 9:24:06
In reply to **Willow....., posted by Dr Eamerz on March 17, 2003, at 9:20:52
Posted by Dr Eamerz on March 17, 2003, at 9:28:50
In reply to You jest? (nm) » Dr Eamerz, posted by Willow on March 17, 2003, at 9:24:06
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20030308/msgs/207268.html
Posted by wendy b. on March 17, 2003, at 9:32:07
In reply to **Willow....., posted by Dr Eamerz on March 17, 2003, at 9:20:52
Willow, you gorgeous, preening thing!
Yes! He is paging you, just posted a couple of days ago on PSB. Go look for yourself!
I am soooo happy you have a new pdoc who is taking better care of you, and that you're feeling better. God, that's great...
Love to you,
Wendyps: Jay, sorry to have derailed this thread... don't want to be insensitive...
Posted by Dr Eamerz on March 17, 2003, at 9:36:56
In reply to Re: You jest?, posted by Dr Eamerz on March 17, 2003, at 9:28:50
....if only the gem shone my way
just .....and savour
Posted by Dr Eamerz on March 17, 2003, at 9:38:40
In reply to Re: You jest?, posted by Dr Eamerz on March 17, 2003, at 9:36:56
I got bit carried away I didn't realise the thread change..
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