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Posted by utopizen on November 14, 2002, at 14:34:57
Today I visited my new GP and he gave me a physical. Well I just got a physical in August from my old GP, but after signing a release and paying a $30 processing fee (which my new doc's secretary said isn't legal to ask for) it still wasn't there 2 weeks after asking for it.
Oh well. Anyway, he did a physical. Okay, I realize since I was 12 my doctor never spent more than 4 1/2 minutes during my physicals, but still, one hour is pretty excessive, isn't it? And he tried to take down my underwear without even asking, and I just shouted, "no, you don't."
He tried to quack his way out of it by claiming how if he doesn't then these days he'll be sued. I should of told him off on how he'd find it easier than explaining to a judge why he had to undress a fully independent adult without even asking first.
Compounding the issue was that when I was 13, a boy scoutmaster had me go in for a "fitting session" to try on a baiting suit. For all I know it was 30 minutes, because I literally entered a state of shock as it happened that made me feel paralyzed as he "measured" me. He then went to my dad right after and told my dad how I've got to work on my shyness problem when changing clothes near others. If my dad wasn't so naive, or better yet I was him, I'd throw him to a car door and stand there until someone got a rope that would secure him until we got to the police.
Anyway, that was never reported, I didn't want to put my family in that mess. But at least I've gotten older since then and am assertive enough to stop things before they get out of hand.
And you must really think I'm nuts, but I'm actually probably going to keep him because he is analyzing my blood in a way that may find a CNS defect that causes my ocassional split-second shoulder shrug twitching now and then a few times a week. After reading up on Dilantin, I learned this may be a result of not a chemical imbalance, but too much electric dissonance between my nerve signals. Hence why SSRIs have done nothing for my anxiety.
Also, Dilantin has worked in people with cold hands and feet, which I have. He didn't mention Dilantin as a potential treatment, but I don't know what else would treat it, and it's odd he even cares since even my p-doc doesn't care about this tic thing, he dismissed it from day one. I only care now because I think it's linked to my anxiety and maybe even ADD. And he's just sort of confirmed this belief with me.
But it's odd, since he's anti- p-meds, and it's not like there's non-medicinal ways to correct nerve dysfunction, right?
I've had this twitch since puberty started, it appears to slowly fade away right now, but still occurs a few times per week.
Oh, anyway, he said he was checking me for "hemroids." Im 19. I told him that's only something old people get, and he was like, well I couldn't be liable. Then I told him my former stanford GP gave my a physical in August and never checked, so why on Earth should I take some new GP's word for it when I don't even know what school he went to?
Oh, and he did a bunch of tests that he asked if others did before, and I told him no. He kept saying, "really? I'm surprised!" Geez. Probably because you're 95 and your ECG machine was probably stolen when you were in WWII, and every single test you do has probably been invalidated as unuseful or purposeless by now.
One of the things he did was have me follow his two fingers with my eyes. I asked him if he was checking my visual tracking, and he said no in a condescending way, but wouldn't explain what he was checking.
Posted by IsoM on November 14, 2002, at 15:23:29
In reply to My GP is sketchy, posted by utopizen on November 14, 2002, at 14:34:57
Yes, your doctor sounds a little strange to me too. I would feel distrustful about a doctor who started to check private parts of you without even asking. That's very creepy. I'd also be distrustful of a doctor who couldn't even explain why he was getting you to follow a moving finger. It's such a basic test & nothing mysterious about - so why the smile & no answer? It's sounds like he's very condescending & may prove to beless than open later when you wish to know more.
A number of things can be determined by that simple test. Because your eyes are linked by the nervous system to your ears, this simple test will give an idea of whether there's any vestibular problems (dealing with balance) & can also yield further info on your brain.
If you plan to keep him, educate yourself about various tests. Here's a few sites to start you off:
http://www.labtestsonline.org/
http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/diagnostics.shtml
Posted by utopizen on November 14, 2002, at 20:46:44
In reply to Re: My GP is sketchy » utopizen, posted by IsoM on November 14, 2002, at 15:23:29
> Yes, your doctor sounds a little strange to me too. I would feel distrustful about a doctor who started to check private parts of you without even asking. That's very creepy. I'd also be distrustful of a doctor who couldn't even explain why he was getting you to follow a moving finger. It's such a basic test & nothing mysterious about - so why the smile & no answer? It's sounds like he's very condescending & may prove to beless than open later when you wish to know more.
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> A number of things can be determined by that simple test. Because your eyes are linked by the nervous system to your ears, this simple test will give an idea of whether there's any vestibular problems (dealing with balance) & can also yield further info on your brain.
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> If you plan to keep him, educate yourself about various tests. Here's a few sites to start you off:
> http://www.labtestsonline.org/
> http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/diagnostics.shtmlHe graduated from college in 1945!! He's old. And he's very stern. I like a casual relationship with my doctor. He asked me if I took a certain antihistimaine, and I was like, "yeah, I think that was it-- are they the yellow ones?"
Well he shot back "I DON'T GO BY COLORS, I GO BY NAMES!" wow. Maybe they didn't teach doctors how to develop rapaporte until 1946, after he graduated. The guy literally scares me in this sense. And he's a cardiologist in specialty. My heart's always fine, so why should I bother? If he does something that twists my neve again, I'm going to another doc.
All I wanted today was some Ambien, and he was like, let's wait until we get the blood results back. As if he's going to formulate a compounded medicine in his office custom-tailored to my DNA that will cure all of my anxiety, ADD and sleep problems. The guy's a sick quack, and if he does anything sketchy like try to undress me without asking, I'm reporting him to the state Board.
I just checked online at my state's board search site, and this guy made 2 malpractice payments over the past 2 years. Granted, he's in cardiology, but still, only 5% of this specialty in my state paid out during this 10 year period. And it's not like he's opening hearts, either, it's just a private office.
I went from having the most non-chalante doctor who will only run an ECG and urine analysis and spend 30 seconds with chest breathing to a perverted old guy who's been sued twice and tries to belittle what I say. Not wise to do when it's your client's first day and they're thinking of keeping you or not, is it?
Posted by IsoM on November 15, 2002, at 0:31:18
In reply to Re: My GP is sketchy, posted by utopizen on November 14, 2002, at 20:46:44
Posted by dreamerz on November 15, 2002, at 9:12:51
In reply to Re: My GP is sketchy » utopizen, posted by IsoM on November 14, 2002, at 15:23:29
>. I would feel distrustful about a doctor who started to check private parts of you without even asking.
Hmmm naughty naughty.....why do I get the shy ones : )
Sorry to mess with the post I know it's a serious issue but couldn't resist.
Posted by utopizen on November 15, 2002, at 11:19:13
In reply to Re: My GP is sketchy, posted by dreamerz on November 15, 2002, at 9:12:51
> >. I would feel distrustful about a doctor who started to check private parts of you without even asking.
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> Hmmm naughty naughty.....why do I get the shy ones : )
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> Sorry to mess with the post I know it's a serious issue but couldn't resist.I have a pretty good sense of humor, only I'm a guy and so is my doc. I've decided to just wait a few days to see how the results of my blood test go, call him up to see what he thinks of the blood tests, take that info down and say have a nice day. Then go to a female doc and never test fate again by using a male doc.
And if a good-looking female doc wants to be assertive during my physical, I'll assume there's some reasonable explanation for it and let her do her thing ; )
oh, and did I mention this guy graduated in 1945 and has had 2 malpractice payments he's made in the past 10 years? Because it's still freaking me out, both of those things. This guy pre-dates every psychotropic ever made. No wonder why he said "what can we do to get you off these meds?" I wanted to say "sorry, but I don't recgonize Dianetics, doctor." lol
Well, he doesn't pre-date Benzedrine, but that ADD trial wasn't actually paid attention to when it was published in '38 anyway...
I've also decided to write a letter to my state med board "reccomending that the Board remind the doctor of ethical procedures in the course of examining a patient" as I will say. I also encourage all of you to go to your state board of health's web site and search all your doctors... not that a malpractice payment alone is a reason to stop seeing someone. Actually, if that was the only thing I had a problem with, I'd still keep him... I have a pretty high threshold people have to cross before I get upset with them and do something about it. Telling me "I don't care about your social problems, only your physical ones" AFTER he tried to pull down my underwear without asking was the final straw. No doctor should dismiss legitimate mental illnesses of a patient, ESPECIALLY when that doctor has absolutely no experience or background in psychiatry and my p-doc went to Harvard med and this guy went to some med school I never heard of 57 years ago. And my p-doc also doesn't have any malpractice payments he's made. So really, this guy has no authority to be snotty about psychiatry.
Not to mention he said he needed to check for hemroids or else he would be liable. What? I told him my doctor never did, and my doctor gave me a physical in August. I made it very clear that I knew this wasn't standard procedure to do on a 19 year old patient when I told him my former doctor went to Stanford med, because I knew he was about to quack out a line about how he's more competent than my former doctor.
Had I known of his malpractice payouts beforehand, I would have told him "well my doc didn't have any malpractice problems, and you do, so he must be doing something right." I mean, it's not like I'm planning to see him again, or he's my professor or something. I say he opens the door to ad homminems (s/p) when he tries to pull down my shorts. Heck, what I should probably do is just tell him to prescribe me some Xanax unless he wants to explain why he tried to pull down the shorts of a fully functioning 19 year old without even asking first. Not to mention I can pretty much guarantee hemroids is not considered a legitimate test to perform on a 19 year old, so he certainly couldn't use even THAT pathetic excuse he tried using on me.
He knew I knew a lot about meds when he started asking me about them, certainly more than he knew of them. I'm constantly amazed at how much ignorance doctors assume of their patients AFTER their patients have clearly demonstrated they know more than they do in certain areas... it's unfortunate that I also know that my p-doc did lie to me one time due to my insight over these matters, but I never have the guts to point out that I'm no dummy (well, actually, I'm sort of proud of myself for doing it yesterday, ussually I don't).
Posted by IsoM on November 15, 2002, at 13:20:44
In reply to Re: My GP is sketchy, posted by utopizen on November 15, 2002, at 11:19:13
Glad to see you picking a more up to date doctor rather than Dr. Bones. Why not check around with other people & find who's recommended as a doctor? It's not a bad idea to pick a doctor who's fairly new out of med school & practice. My experience is that they're still uncertain about their experience & so are more open-minded. We don't need to pay for doctors in Canada, so if a doctor is new & not positive about a diagnosis & refers us to a specialist, we don't need to pay. New doctors are much more likely to listen to you & take your thoughts into consideration. And then, if you really like them, you can grow older with them & know there's someone who really knows your medical history & cares.
Posted by dreamerz on November 15, 2002, at 21:09:53
In reply to Re: My GP is sketchy, posted by utopizen on November 15, 2002, at 11:19:13
Yes that's weird....I've just changed mine...he was too old.
I had odd physical too but nothing as extreme as yours.
I hope you find a decent one in the near future.
take care.
Posted by utopizen on November 17, 2002, at 2:11:34
In reply to Re: My GP is sketchy » utopizen, posted by IsoM on November 15, 2002, at 13:20:44
> Glad to see you picking a more up to date doctor rather than Dr. Bones. Why not check around with other people & find who's recommended as a doctor? It's not a bad idea to pick a doctor who's fairly new out of med school & practice. My experience is that they're still uncertain about their experience & so are more open-minded. We don't need to pay for doctors in Canada, so if a doctor is new & not positive about a diagnosis & refers us to a specialist, we don't need to pay. New doctors are much more likely to listen to you & take your thoughts into consideration. And then, if you really like them, you can grow older with them & know there's someone who really knows your medical history & cares.
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I have a PPO, which mean my health insurance doesn't even care who my primary physician is, because I could have 20 for all they care, and that's all within my means as a PPO member. It's sort of like an HMO, only it actually covers medical expenses. =)I can walk into any doc's office, hand the card, and it's taken care of- no pre-authorization or anything. Every doc accepts it, too. It's even going to pay for my speech therapy, even though I basically got that resolved when I was 12... I'd like to finalize certain sounds.
Yeah, so I've decided to just wait to see what the blood will be like, and be done with it. As you probably figured out, I have this problem with being too tolerant of people who aren't respecful of me. I'm afraid I'll hurt their feelings or something, even though they've done mean things to me. It's weird, but I'm just too nice.
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