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Posted by Dinah on September 16, 2002, at 20:29:41
And how did pdoc appointment go?
Posted by Medusa on September 17, 2002, at 11:29:49
In reply to Ted, How are you?, posted by Dinah on September 16, 2002, at 20:29:41
Posted by Gabbix2 on September 17, 2002, at 16:05:45
In reply to Dang it Ted, WHERE are you? (nm), posted by Medusa on September 17, 2002, at 11:29:49
I think he's okay, Dinah, Medusa.
But Dagnabbit Medusa,
That Dang Dinah's language has gotten to you too.
Always knew that consorn irrascible woman was a baad seed.(Tabitha gets credit for irrascible)
Posted by Dinah on September 17, 2002, at 16:49:40
In reply to Re: Dang it Ted, WHERE are you?, posted by Gabbix2 on September 17, 2002, at 16:05:45
I'll admit to having idiosyncratic speech, but I am not even a wee bit irascible. :)
Posted by Ted on September 17, 2002, at 17:46:01
In reply to Ted, How are you?, posted by Dinah on September 16, 2002, at 20:29:41
I'm here; I'm OK. Thanks all -- really.> And how did pdoc appointment go?
He introduced me to a smart young lad named "Lexapro". Y'all might know him -- he's been making his rounds lately. Well, Lex is visiting every night for dinner for a while. Last night I didn't really like him, but the pdoc tells me that Lex gets better with time, so much so that I will look forward to his visits. I told the pdoc that I have trouble, umm, finishing in the bedroom when Lex and his irk are watching and getting in the way. But the pdoc told me that Lex wasn't so obstrusive and I will hardly notice he is there. We'll see.
Aside from that, the pdoc offered to put me back into the hospital because he thought "I sounded too suicidal." I had to convince him that although my mood has been more depressed lately, it's still not as bad as what I lived with for 30 years, so there's no reason to be alarmed. He let me leave. Then again, there was a really cute rep from Novartis Pharmaceuticals waiting to see him, so he was motivated to get rid of me. :-)
You know, I love the question, "Do you have a plan?" It's like the airlines used to ask, "Did you pack your own bags?" Of course not, my wife packed them. Of course I have a plan. I have a thousand plans; I always have. I just haven't decided to give up yet. Tina, I hope you're listening.
That's all. I leave in a bit for the therapist office. BTW: You know, it's a good thing I just refinanced my home mortgage. My therapist, my pdoc, and my meds are covered at only nil levels. I guess this is training for medicare.
Ted
Posted by Dinah on September 17, 2002, at 18:02:12
In reply to Re: Ted, How are you?, posted by Ted on September 17, 2002, at 17:46:01
Hmmm. Sorry things aren't going so well for you right now. But if I remember correctly, you respond well to ssri's don't you? Perhaps that Lexapro might cheer you up yet. And there have been mixed reports on the meds board about his affect in the bedroom, so maybe you'll be one of the ones that aren't affected.
I hate that plan question too. I was always rather vague with my therapist but shared my plan with him a couple of weeks ago. He seemed disturbed. When I kept telling him about my suicidal obsessions what did he think I meant? That the words suicidal ideation ran through my brain all day? (OK, that does happen too, but that's not the point.) Of course I have plans. But even more than the plan question I hate the promise not to commit suicide before seeing him next. I used to drive my therapist crazy by cheerfully agreeing while telling him straight out I was lying. That if I chose to kill myself, my promise to him wouldn't be uppermost in my thoughts. I guess the questions must have some value, though, or why would they ask them? Aside from CYA. Oh, by the way, that's how my therapist and I came to an agreement. I complained that he was just asking CYA questions, and he asked that I please let him cover his ass. Seemed reasonable to me.
Hope you're feeling better soon, Ted. I'm rooting for Lex, and for you.
Dinah
Posted by Dinah on September 17, 2002, at 18:05:11
In reply to Re: Ted, How are you?, posted by Dinah on September 17, 2002, at 18:02:12
I am also the bane of my therapist's existence. And my Sunday School teacher's, and just about anyone else who wants me to give conventional or easy answers. :)
Posted by Gabbix2 on September 17, 2002, at 18:21:40
In reply to Re: (See Gabbi?), posted by Dinah on September 17, 2002, at 18:05:11
uh uh nevah nevah nevah!!!
Why do you think it was your conversation that I first barged into that fateful day on P.S.B.
Kind,Yes
Intelligent Very
Sharp yes mam
Fair? abd willing to stick to your carefully
chosen principles? Undeniably.Well the 'carefully chosen'
rules out conventional right there doesn't it?Are you going to stay in at recess to clean the chalkboards? he hehehehe
.
Posted by Ted on September 17, 2002, at 21:00:46
In reply to Re: Ted, How are you?, posted by Dinah on September 17, 2002, at 18:02:12
>Hmmm. Sorry things aren't going so well for you
>right now.Thanks Dinah, you're a real pal (I mean it, I'm not patronizing).
>But if I remember correctly, you respond well to
>ssri's don't you?Give me your opinion.... I gave up on Paxil after only about 5 days because of side effects. Zoloft worked ok until it started to poop out, about 1.5 years, then no matter how high the dose went, it was of little use except for OCD. And now I am on day two of Lexapro. My experience isn't all that great.
>Perhaps that Lexapro might cheer you up yet.
I'm hopeful. So is my pdoc, but I'm sure he gets kickbacks of some sort if that Novartis rep is any indication. :-)
>And there have been mixed reports on the meds
>board about his affect in the bedroom, so maybe
>you'll be one of the ones that aren't affected.That's secondary. Of course if the med doesn't work, then it's primary.
> I hate that plan question too. I was always
>rather vague with my therapist but shared my
>plan with him a couple of weeks ago. He seemed
>disturbed.Don't get me started. Oh, wait, I'm already started. I was asked by someone, a nurse maybe, a few years back about "plans" and "methods". When I told her of the multitude of ideas, the pros and cons of each, and how prepared I was for each of them, she was shocked. Positively shocked. I think she wanted to have me locked up forever. I thought it was humorous actually. Guess I'm sick, huh? :-) :-)
> Hope you're feeling better soon, Ted. I'm rooting for Lex, and for you.
Thanks much!
Ted
Posted by Medusa on September 18, 2002, at 0:27:53
In reply to Re: Dang it Ted, WHERE are you? » Gabbix2, posted by Dinah on September 17, 2002, at 16:49:40
> I'll admit to having idiosyncratic speech, but I am not even a wee bit irascible. :)
>
>a wascally wabbit?
Posted by Tabitha Šëëš Ýôú on September 18, 2002, at 0:56:17
In reply to Re: Ted, How are you? » Dinah, posted by Ted on September 17, 2002, at 21:00:46
>
> Don't get me started. Oh, wait, I'm already started. I was asked by someone, a nurse maybe, a few years back about "plans" and "methods". When I told her of the multitude of ideas, the pros and cons of each, and how prepared I was for each of them, she was shocked. Positively shocked. I think she wanted to have me locked up forever. I thought it was humorous actually. Guess I'm sick, huh? :-) :-)Naw, you're an engineer! Of course you've thought it all out. You guys reminded me, once I was at a new psychiatrist, she asked me whether I had ever had thoughts of hurting someone. At the time I had a downstairs neighbor who blared his stereo beneath my bedroom at all hours, despite many polite and less than polite request to quiet down. I told her, well, yes, I had thought of having my neighbor killed. I explained that I was not serious about doing it, but I had in fact thought of it. She had the nerve to look at me with a shocked expression and say "those thoughts are not normal".
Posted by Tabitha Šëëš Ýôú on September 18, 2002, at 0:57:53
In reply to Re: Dang it Ted, WHERE are you?, posted by Gabbix2 on September 17, 2002, at 16:05:45
I thought that was me. Uh-oh, identities are blurring, bad sign.
Posted by k9lover on September 18, 2002, at 7:34:58
In reply to Re: Ted, How are you?, posted by Tabitha Šëëš Ýôú on September 18, 2002, at 0:56:17
(Hope it's okay if I join in...) I also, and given the extent of this damn disease, quite naturally have suicidal plans - who wouldn't. The good news is that I have a new car with a connected catalytic convertor - gassing myself in my small sealed room in the garage is less likely now. More likely is an attempt to drug o/d as a call for help... Meanwhile, the docs have upped the zyprexa and she assures me that my present Pit is drug related, not episodic... We'll see...
Jan
Keeping safe contracts are a curious thing - I generally honour them though in the Pit -
Posted by tina on September 18, 2002, at 7:53:05
In reply to Re: Ted, How are you?, posted by Ted on September 17, 2002, at 17:46:01
Posted by Ted on September 18, 2002, at 10:23:01
In reply to I heard you :) (nm) » Ted, posted by tina on September 18, 2002, at 7:53:05
Tina,
I'm happy you were listening. Take care of yourself. Even though you might not believe it, we DO care.
Ted
Posted by tina on September 19, 2002, at 7:35:07
In reply to Re: I heard you :) » tina, posted by Ted on September 18, 2002, at 10:23:01
> Tina,
>
> I'm happy you were listening. Take care of yourself. Even though you might not believe it, we DO care.
>
> Ted
>
I believe it Ted. It just doesn't seem to help when I'm down here. You know how it is. The self-loathing goes too deep for compliments to get through and it's always hard to believe that anyone cares. But, thank you.
All the best
tina
Posted by GabbiX2 on September 20, 2002, at 23:31:16
In reply to irascible or ... » Dinah, posted by Medusa on September 18, 2002, at 0:27:53
This is the end of the thread.
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