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Posted by trouble on April 7, 2002, at 13:44:27
In reply to my emails, posted by Krazy Kat on April 7, 2002, at 13:23:51
still blocked
Posted by Phil on April 7, 2002, at 13:52:23
In reply to still blocked, posted by trouble on April 7, 2002, at 13:44:27
If you're not comfortable with email, maybe Dr. Bob could give you a get out of jail free card.
Phil
Posted by trouble on April 7, 2002, at 13:56:13
In reply to still blocked, posted by trouble on April 7, 2002, at 13:44:27
Hey all,
Everyone has questions, I want to talk to people who were w/her toward the end. I want to go to the coffee house, maybe not today, it depends on your answers.
If you don't think this is ethical, to get into her life, when the deal here is that we are all anonymous, I understand, and am struggling w/that.It seems to me that all of a sudden it's a new ballgame, and all of the old bets are off. To me, it's not a question of what harm can it do, it's a question of what would Sar want? And the answer to that can only be guessed at. I await your replies.
trouble
Posted by Krazy Kat on April 7, 2002, at 14:07:11
In reply to guess not, posted by trouble on April 7, 2002, at 13:56:13
trouble:
did you know her? or is that where you live?
thanks.
- kk
Posted by Krazy Kat on April 7, 2002, at 14:11:22
In reply to did you know her? » trouble, posted by Krazy Kat on April 7, 2002, at 14:07:11
any more info would be greatly appreciated. i am torn up and want So badly to have more info.
- kk
Posted by Mair on April 7, 2002, at 14:23:07
In reply to guess not, posted by trouble on April 7, 2002, at 13:56:13
Trouble - others may disagree, but i don't think Sar was as assiduous as others about protecting her identity and I don't think she would mind our attempts to find out more. I think she had such little regard for herself - I would love to find a way to let people who knew her understand how special and important she was to all of us. If you or Phil or Kid_a are able to find anything out, please share whatever you are able to glean. I'm sure others feel as helpless and lost as I do - this is such a hard thing to deal with under any circumstances and particularly within the constraints of internet relationships.
Thank you
Mair
Posted by LiLi80 on April 7, 2002, at 14:51:56
In reply to ANNOUNCEMENT, posted by friend on April 6, 2002, at 18:55:30
I know a lot of people think that friend might be lying, but it is possible that this friend of sar's is fulling a wish of hers. I know that I told my friend that if I did kill myself that I wanted her to post on this board and tell everyone. Sar obviously cared about us alot and maybe she wanted someone tell us about her death. It is possible that that is what happened.
Posted by trouble on April 7, 2002, at 15:10:11
In reply to did you know her? » trouble, posted by Krazy Kat on April 7, 2002, at 14:07:11
Hi Krazy Kat,
Thanks for talking to me again, I don't know what the original idea was but it's family now, we pick on each other and Dad throws our butt in the slammer for a week but when it comes down to it we all pull together; that's family.
No I didn't know her, but she was on the list. I had to restrain myself, I had an idea which coffee houses to check out, but I didn't know. I could'nt tell if I was reading her right and I didn't want to screw it up.
Sometimes behind that brilliantly confessional, combustible writing is a decision that I will do THIS instead....A decision like that must be respected,and I've misread it so many times before, came on too much and too noisy in person and needless to say if I would have gone slower, done less, let them make the first move, etc etc things might have turned out different.
Did you see any invitations in her writing? It seemed when the Lester Bangs thread came out, something about the cool people who live in Austin that was probably it; she said trouble and I wrestle on Guadalupe Street everyday, that was the coffeehouse, that neighborhood, it seemed we were getting close to an invitation, but that is just a guess. It will remain unfinished.
We will memorialize her, Kid_A will figure out how, and see to it that she'll always be with us.
Thanks again KK, keep in touch, maybe some of us should stay very close to the board right now.
trouble
Posted by trouble on April 7, 2002, at 15:16:22
In reply to It is possible...., posted by LiLi80 on April 7, 2002, at 14:51:56
Right Lily. You're smart. Now help
us to understand the meaning of having someone else come here to tell us the news.
If it was me, I'd go out in a firestorm of words, and I'd make damn sure they'd be my own.trouble
Posted by Krazy Kat on April 7, 2002, at 15:39:11
In reply to Re: did you know her?, posted by trouble on April 7, 2002, at 15:10:11
trouble:
i have no trouble communicating with you at all. we are just very different sorts. i need to learn to give people the room i request for myself. i read some of your writings at the site posted here for lili - they are spectacular.
i think any help you could give us re: sar would be much appreciated. i suppose we could just post it on chat so there is not a permanent record of detailed info - what do you think?
i'm really at a lost with how to deal with this right now.
- kk
Posted by Zo on April 7, 2002, at 16:26:33
In reply to ANNOUNCEMENT, posted by friend on April 6, 2002, at 18:55:30
Posted by Zo on April 7, 2002, at 17:27:01
In reply to Blessings to her dear soul (nm), posted by Zo on April 7, 2002, at 16:26:33
Please, people, don't post your email address in the usual way. Web spiders are constantly harvesting , the info then sold.
PLUS you're addy will be on Google--search engines pick up posts!
Write it out: zozo at mac dot com
Posted by trouble on April 7, 2002, at 17:36:42
In reply to Re: did you know her? » trouble, posted by Krazy Kat on April 7, 2002, at 15:39:11
KK,
Why not let's stand by and wait for Kid_A's input. If he's been mobilized into action by this incomprehensible tragedy, some sense of purpose can go a long way toward facilitating one's "healing"; or it may have laid him in bed for the next few days, at any rate I'm for standing by.
I've never seen him truly lost and disoriented before today, and the way I see it whoever's been hit the hardest is the one who ought to call the shots.I've been in the archives, and it's clear that everyone here loved Sar and fussed over her escapades, loved her open need and ability to connect and her desperation to be good.
Someone has to pay for this.What I want to do is locate the evil witch psychiatrist who pronounced her defective as an aside, as Sar was walking out the door, Oh By The Way, she's schizoaffective and-oh, you still here? You shouldn't have been listening, anyway I wasn't even talking to you have a nice night.
Was this Sar's last pdoc? If someone can confirm that information I will take care of the rest.
trouble
Posted by Dinah on April 7, 2002, at 17:40:43
In reply to what now? FINGERPOINT!, posted by trouble on April 7, 2002, at 17:36:42
Can you make it to chat?
Posted by Mair on April 7, 2002, at 17:44:26
In reply to Re: what now? » trouble, posted by Dinah on April 7, 2002, at 17:40:43
Someone should let her know if they did. I know Sar emailed her sometimes and they were good friends on this Board. Kristi hasn't been around alot lately and I don't know if she lurks at all.
Mair
Posted by trouble on April 7, 2002, at 17:54:32
In reply to Re: what now? » trouble, posted by Dinah on April 7, 2002, at 17:40:43
Oh God Dinah I wish I could but I've tried too many times in the past and it sent me around the bend. Nufsed.
If you have info on this pdoc you can just email it to me.
Thanks for the offer,trouble
Posted by shelliR on April 7, 2002, at 18:03:40
In reply to How to post your email address safely, posted by Zo on April 7, 2002, at 17:27:01
I'm wishing that this is not true, but I feel sick enough inside that it is. I do hope the friend checks in again. It does not seem like Sar, though, to play with our minds. She
was a straight shooter.Sar was so young, so full of life and had enourmous talent. She knew how to give fully and take fully and who knows where her life could have gone. I had started to pull back because I had a hard time with her constant drinking. Now I feel so truely selfish and petty about this. We all do what we need to, to get by. To the people on PSB, I do know that Sar did get so much from so many people. That you all were so accepting and especially so forgiving when she was self-incriminating.
Shelli
Posted by trouble on April 7, 2002, at 18:05:58
In reply to what now? FINGERPOINT!, posted by trouble on April 7, 2002, at 17:36:42
I'll get in touch w/ the local NAMI chapter, and give them the reins, the post is right there, this woman has some answering to do. Thank goodness there are organizations who advocate, and don't keep their results a secret.
If NAMI is too busy there are other resources, I'll be the messenger and leave it at that.sorry for the tone of the earlier post, I'm going to go outside now and smash a carton of eggs then read something, or take a rest.
robin
Posted by Zo on April 7, 2002, at 18:21:53
In reply to What I meant to say, posted by trouble on April 7, 2002, at 18:05:58
Posted by IsoM on April 8, 2002, at 1:31:48
In reply to Re: KID_A - please read and answer!!!! » IsoM, posted by kid_A on April 7, 2002, at 13:01:13
I believe you. There's nothing more to do for me but grieve.
Posted by Shar on April 8, 2002, at 2:16:05
In reply to It is possible...., posted by LiLi80 on April 7, 2002, at 14:51:56
Posted by trouble on April 8, 2002, at 3:40:40
In reply to LiLi ---I've made the same request as you did (nm), posted by Shar on April 8, 2002, at 2:16:05
Shar,
Lili hasn't answered my inquiry, I get the feeling from that child that sometimes I'm too stupid, I can imagine her shaking her head at some of my heartfelt posts but this is our special relationship and she makes me work, in her own way she's got alot to do w/ opening my eyes.
But my question still stands, what would make you entrust someone else w/ saying your last good-bye?trouble
Posted by Krazy Kat on April 8, 2002, at 9:33:00
In reply to Re: LiLi ---I've made the same request as you did » Shar, posted by trouble on April 8, 2002, at 3:40:40
kid,
i never doubted your comments, just wanted you to know - i just very selfishly want details.
plese, please let us know how you are doing.
- kk
Posted by fi on April 8, 2002, at 12:13:33
In reply to Re: ANNOUNCEMENT confirment, posted by kid_A on April 7, 2002, at 10:55:32
Thank you for doing this, which must have been an arduous and upsetting task. And for letting us all know.
Fi
Posted by fi on April 8, 2002, at 12:15:28
In reply to dreamer... others..., posted by Krazy Kat on April 7, 2002, at 13:07:28
I didnt know her personally, but would say that sometimes people are more likely to commit suicide when they feel a bit better- as then they have the energy and decisiveness.
Fi
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