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Posted by Greg on January 5, 2001, at 7:51:01
In case you ordered anything from amazon.com over the holidays, you should contact then to see if your credit/debit card has been comprimised. Someone hacked into their "secure" server and stole 470,000 credit/debit card numbers. Of course mine was one of them. Fortunetly, my credit card provider was contacted by amazon and my card number was cancelled before it could be used.
Live and learn I suppose....
Posted by dove on January 5, 2001, at 9:04:25
In reply to Amazon.con was hacked, posted by Greg on January 5, 2001, at 7:51:01
Wow, that sucks big-time. Egghead was also hacked and they don't know what the hackers had found or taken, or what damage their own secure system had incurred.
I still prefer ordering online, I hate feeling like a freak when I can't make a decision (like between a red or a burning crimson sweater) and stand pondering the decision intensely for two hours. I have a severe problem with making decisions, and I still remember the days when hypomania drove me forward and I made decisions without regret, reservation, or self-incrimination :-)
Oh well, glad not to be one of those card-holders at Amazon, my condolences to you Greg :-)
dove
Posted by Greg on January 5, 2001, at 9:42:35
In reply to Re: Amazon.con was hacked, posted by dove on January 5, 2001, at 9:04:25
Hi dove!
Very good to hear from you. I hope everything is well on your end.
Yeah, I guess I'm pretty fortunate that Visa was notified and cancelled my card before any damage was done. For the longest time I wouldn't order online for exactly this reason, but now I'm back to square one. I probably won't order online for a long time.
What you said about hypomania brought a smile to my face. Although I know that it's unhealthy behavior for me, it was...well, fun. Those shopping sprees were great (until the bills came in of course)! It was nice to just go into a store and buy something just because I wanted it and not have to stand there for an hour trying to justify doing it. I think you understand that feeling huh?
Well, I hope you and the family had a great Xmas and New Year! Drop me an e-mail if you get a chance, we haven't talked for awhile.
Hugs,
Greg> Wow, that sucks big-time. Egghead was also hacked and they don't know what the hackers had found or taken, or what damage their own secure system had incurred.
>
> I still prefer ordering online, I hate feeling like a freak when I can't make a decision (like between a red or a burning crimson sweater) and stand pondering the decision intensely for two hours. I have a severe problem with making decisions, and I still remember the days when hypomania drove me forward and I made decisions without regret, reservation, or self-incrimination :-)
>
> Oh well, glad not to be one of those card-holders at Amazon, my condolences to you Greg :-)
>
> dove
Posted by Noa on January 5, 2001, at 10:44:49
In reply to Re: Amazon.com was hacked, posted by Greg on January 5, 2001, at 9:42:35
What if I ordered from amazon last year? Is it only cards recently used to order from there that were stolen? How do I find out?
Posted by Cam W. on January 5, 2001, at 10:47:25
In reply to Re: Amazon.com was hacked, posted by Greg on January 5, 2001, at 9:42:35
Greg - The paranoic propellor-heads at GDM have encrypted their site tighter than the Pentagon (which, unfortunately doesn't mean that they can't be hacked, it would just be harder). Aren't all you Silicon Valley guys deadheads, anyway? - Cam
8^o
Posted by Greg on January 5, 2001, at 11:02:48
In reply to Re: Amazon.com was hacked, posted by Noa on January 5, 2001, at 10:44:49
Noa,
I would go to their site and get the number for customer service and make a direct inquiry. I was notified by Visa who was notified by amazon. I never spoke to amazon directly. Let me know what you find out.
Greg
> What if I ordered from amazon last year? Is it only cards recently used to order from there that were stolen? How do I find out?
Posted by Greg on January 5, 2001, at 11:05:04
In reply to Shoulda used Grateful Dead Merchandising » Greg, posted by Cam W. on January 5, 2001, at 10:47:25
> Aren't all you Silicon Valley guys deadheads, anyway? - Cam
I refuse to answer that on the grounds that it may tend to identify me... :^P
Posted by ksvt on January 5, 2001, at 16:24:30
In reply to Re: Shoulda used Grateful Dead Merchandising, posted by Greg on January 5, 2001, at 11:05:04
> >Greg - I did order from them over the holidays, but to my knowledge, my credit card company(s) were not notified. Last year someone charged about $10,000 to my credit card at a hotel/casino in Detroit. I don't live in the midwest and my charging patterns don't match up with extensive casino use. The fraud division of my credit card company picked this up on their own before the charges ever showed up on my statement. I was a little reassured by this but i guess i better contact amazon to see if my card has been compromised. Thanks for the info. ksvt
Aren't all you Silicon Valley guys deadheads, anyway? - Cam
>
> I refuse to answer that on the grounds that it may tend to identify me... :^P
Posted by tina on January 5, 2001, at 18:58:11
In reply to Amazon.con was hacked, posted by Greg on January 5, 2001, at 7:51:01
>How do I check on my card? I've used amazon a lot but not recently. Should I be worried?
T
In case you ordered anything from amazon.com over the holidays, you should contact then to see if your credit/debit card has been comprimised. Someone hacked into their "secure" server and stole 470,000 credit/debit card numbers. Of course mine was one of them. Fortunetly, my credit card provider was contacted by amazon and my card number was cancelled before it could be used.
>
> Live and learn I suppose....
Posted by tina on January 5, 2001, at 18:59:34
In reply to Re: Amazon.con was hacked-G, posted by tina on January 5, 2001, at 18:58:11
> >How do I check on my card? I've used amazon a lot but not recently. Should I be worried?
> T
>
>
> In case you ordered anything from amazon.com over the holidays, you should contact then to see if your credit/debit card has been comprimised. Someone hacked into their "secure" server and stole 470,000 credit/debit card numbers. Of course mine was one of them. Fortunetly, my credit card provider was contacted by amazon and my card number was cancelled before it could be used.
> >
> > Live and learn I suppose....
Posted by Ted on January 5, 2001, at 19:50:21
In reply to Amazon.con was hacked, posted by Greg on January 5, 2001, at 7:51:01
Dear Mr. .......,
Thanks for writing to us at Amazon.com with your concern. The information
you received is indeed a rumor and is *not* true.We guarantee that every transaction you make at Amazon.com will be safe.
Our secure server software (SSL) is the industry standard and among the
best software available today for secure commerce transactions. It
encrypts all of your personal information, including credit card number,
name, and address, so that it cannot be read as the information travels
over the Internet.All of our credit card information is stored on a secure, dedicated
database. When we get this information during an order, the card
information is sent into this database and is only accessed to charge
your account. It is stored in no other place.I hope this answers your questions, but please feel free to e-mail us
again if we can be of any further assistance.Thanks for shopping at Amazon.com!
Best regards,Laura J.
http://www.amazon.com
Posted by tina on January 5, 2001, at 20:02:46
In reply to Re: Amazon.con was hacked NOT!!, posted by Ted on January 5, 2001, at 19:50:21
Yeah, if you can believe what the big conglomerations want to tell you. They are covering their asses. I just checked on my visa and it's had some weird transactions on it in the last couple of days. Then again, could just be my dh playing with his girlfriend...........LOL NOT!
> Dear Mr. .......,
>
> Thanks for writing to us at Amazon.com with your concern. The information
> you received is indeed a rumor and is *not* true.
>
> We guarantee that every transaction you make at Amazon.com will be safe.
> Our secure server software (SSL) is the industry standard and among the
> best software available today for secure commerce transactions. It
> encrypts all of your personal information, including credit card number,
> name, and address, so that it cannot be read as the information travels
> over the Internet.
>
> All of our credit card information is stored on a secure, dedicated
> database. When we get this information during an order, the card
> information is sent into this database and is only accessed to charge
> your account. It is stored in no other place.
>
> I hope this answers your questions, but please feel free to e-mail us
> again if we can be of any further assistance.
>
> Thanks for shopping at Amazon.com!
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Laura J.
> http://www.amazon.com
Posted by stjames on January 5, 2001, at 20:03:16
In reply to Re: Amazon.con was hacked NOT!!, posted by Ted on January 5, 2001, at 19:50:21
I would suspect Amazon keeps it's info encrypted
with a significantly large enough key and one way hash, thus making it real difficult to break, even if someone did get the file. It is easy to generate large keys with thousands of bits. At present one would need a super computer to break this. This could change as computing power increases, but you just start using larger keys.If this did happen, no one should do business with such a poorly run company. I was highly suspect of this one. Bewhere if you card company calls you saying this happened. They may not be who they say they are. Get a name and call them back to verify with their published phone #.
james
Posted by Noa on January 6, 2001, at 11:02:30
In reply to Re: Amazon.con was hacked NOT!!, posted by stjames on January 5, 2001, at 20:03:16
But it was on NPR news recently that a company that stores credit card numbers was recently hacked (was that Egghead?).
Posted by Greg on January 6, 2001, at 12:31:01
In reply to Re: Amazon.con was hacked NOT!!, posted by Ted on January 5, 2001, at 19:50:21
I'm holding the letter in my hands and it says Amazon. I also rec'd my new card in the mail yesterday, so I know that the letter is legitimate. I will follow up with my credit card company on Monday and see if the affected company was named in error. Could happen I suppose...
What I do know is that I have ordered thru Amazon but never thru Egghead.
Greg
> Dear Mr. .......,
>
> Thanks for writing to us at Amazon.com with your concern. The information
> you received is indeed a rumor and is *not* true.
>
> We guarantee that every transaction you make at Amazon.com will be safe.
> Our secure server software (SSL) is the industry standard and among the
> best software available today for secure commerce transactions. It
> encrypts all of your personal information, including credit card number,
> name, and address, so that it cannot be read as the information travels
> over the Internet.
>
> All of our credit card information is stored on a secure, dedicated
> database. When we get this information during an order, the card
> information is sent into this database and is only accessed to charge
> your account. It is stored in no other place.
>
> I hope this answers your questions, but please feel free to e-mail us
> again if we can be of any further assistance.
>
> Thanks for shopping at Amazon.com!
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Laura J.
> http://www.amazon.com
Posted by Noa on January 8, 2001, at 6:17:36
In reply to Re: Don't know what to tell you gang..., posted by Greg on January 6, 2001, at 12:31:01
Greg, what I heard on the news is that the company that was hacked (and I thought it was egghead, but I am not sure) is one that stores credit card numbers for online companies (like Amazon) to use for checking numbers when someone makes a purchase. They said someone stole about 37,000 credit card numbers. I may be wrong--I only remember the news item vaguely.
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