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Posted by muffled on December 22, 2007, at 19:24:28
Its just there seems SO much that is bad in this world and its is associated w/sex.
Sex seems to hurt so many.
Sex is invasive and hurtful.
There are so many ways to twist and pervert sex.
Sex seems to be too important for all the wrong reasons.
Sex is important in evil rituals.
Sex seems more evil than good to me.
Just my thots.
M
Posted by star008 on December 22, 2007, at 19:45:44
In reply to So is it only me that thinks sex is evil???, posted by muffled on December 22, 2007, at 19:24:28
muffled..
it is not the sex that is evil.. it is the lowly little people with their little minds that make it that way. and most of them are men.. So obessed with their body parts and getting what they want.. look at the terrorist suicide bombers.. they think they will get 72 virgins in heaven!! How stupid can anyone be?? And you will blow yourself up for the chance to get laid by virgins??Good Lord save me from the idiots.. I hope it is true and when they get there they find all they have left is a little stub cuz they blew it up!! lol
It all adds up to the stupid animal impulses of people with sick minds..I am amazed at all the predators out there..All for sex.. Yeah,, seems evil but anything obessed upon can become evil when all it is about is your own needs and no one in the way matters..
Posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 20:18:24
In reply to So is it only me that thinks sex is evil???, posted by muffled on December 22, 2007, at 19:24:28
I can see how you can think that but I agree with Star. It is said that rape is not an act of sex but one of power and violence not sex. It is about control again not about sex.
I don't think about sex one way or another. I can do without it. I don't think it is evil I just don't think about it. Weird. I blocked it out of my mind a long time ago for various reasons and still don't really think about it. Try explaining that to your husband.
But I do understand where you are coming from. A whole lot of hurt and I am sorry for that. Try not to hurt so much. I am sorry for you.
Star is right it is the evil in the minds of others that think they can control others through the use of sex. That is sad isn't it. But so true.
rsk
Posted by muffled on December 22, 2007, at 20:45:19
In reply to Re: So is it only me that thinks sex is evil??? » muffled, posted by rskontos on December 22, 2007, at 20:18:24
>it is not the sex that is evil.. it is the lowly little people with their little minds that make it that way.
>it is the evil in the minds of others that think they can control others through the use of sex.
*but see thats IT. People use sex SO MUCH for evil.
It is true there are MANY things on earth that are twisted, but sex seems to be one of the MOST twisted things in the whole world.
SO MUCH BAD.
I think if there was a big scales of balance and all BAD sex thots/acts/etc were on one side, and all good on the other, well I think the bad would FAR outwirgh the good. VERY FAR.
Bad sexual things all over.
I still not convinced its not a tool of evil, that mebbe is sometimes OK, but mostly NOT.
It scares me SO much.
M
Posted by star008 on December 22, 2007, at 20:51:08
In reply to Re: So is it only me that thinks sex is evil???, posted by muffled on December 22, 2007, at 20:45:19
well yeah,, it can be a tool of evil..doesn't have to be but i agree, it is used in an evil way sometimes. there are just so many evil people to use it for their own gain. I am not afraid..but the Ikid is.
Posted by Dory on December 23, 2007, at 16:01:35
In reply to So is it only me that thinks sex is evil???, posted by muffled on December 22, 2007, at 19:24:28
i dont know how anyone can begin to answer this question muffled. i mean, even though i think sex is awesome, what could i possibly do to let you understand that? i mean.. you have this very firmly implanted idea about sex that has been there for a very long time.. this isn't the first time you have thought hard about this. i don't think anyone else's ideas about sex are going to make a change in how you think about it. It is good that you think and struggle to understand, but the change in perspective is one you have to look inside for... like my T giving me reassurance, just makes me feel the need even stronger.. i have to look inside to change that.
So, no, you aren't the only one, there are lots of people out there who feel the same for various reasons. i'm not one of them though. i have had my negative experiences for sure, but i really do think sex can be a wonderful thing.
i wonder muffled.. and this is just a thought.. why are you married with kids if you feel this way? That is not meant negative... just honest question. i hope it doesn't offend you
Posted by Phillipa on December 23, 2007, at 17:57:28
In reply to Re: So is it only me that thinks sex is evil??? » muffled, posted by Dory on December 23, 2007, at 16:01:35
Muffled not to offend but can you picture sex as an act of love even if it's only to make babies? Phillipa
Posted by muffled on December 23, 2007, at 18:21:12
In reply to Re: So is it only me that thinks sex is evil??? » muffled, posted by Dory on December 23, 2007, at 16:01:35
> i dont know how anyone can begin to answer this question muffled. i mean, even though i think sex is awesome, what could i possibly do to let you understand that? i mean.. you have this very firmly implanted idea about sex that has been there for a very long time.. this isn't the first time you have thought hard about this. i don't think anyone else's ideas about sex are going to make a change in how you think about it.
*I think its got alot to do with repitition Dory. My T says we go over the same stuff MANY times in T. As many times as we have to B4 it sinks into my brain what is truth, and what is lies....
I agree, this is gonna be a tough go for me. But I want to do this thing for my hubby.>It is good that you think and struggle to understand, but the change in perspective is one you have to look inside for... like my T giving me reassurance, just makes me feel the need even stronger.. i have to look inside to change that.
*yes. I need to change inside. I nedd my friends and T and family to reassure me over and over and over and over and over and over ad nauseaum, that I am not bad, dirty, evil, disgusting etc etc....these are deeply planted beleifs, and they ARE changing. I see a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel sometimes.
> So, no, you aren't the only one, there are lots of people out there who feel the same for various reasons. i'm not one of them though. i have had my negative experiences for sure, but i really do think sex can be a wonderful thing.*:-) Good! I am glad to hear this. It gives me hope. I need to hear the good stuff too. NOT glad to hear others have same prob though! ack! Good thing I reread this! But good to hear others can enjoy sex in a non evil way.
> i wonder muffled.. and this is just a thought.. why are you married with kids if you feel this way? That is not meant negative... just honest question. i hope it doesn't offend you*Not at all offended. I am a curious sort and am always interested in interesting questions ! LOL!
I thot I would never get married. But I met this man, and I literally could not get him out of my mind.
There IS a part that I have that...I dunno, I guess it thinks sex is funny! but it doesn't seem to mind doing it. And I guess it used that as a natural way to lure the man.
But I USED to be able to dissociate for sex, and seem to be unable to now. Which is a big problem.
I am happy to be married, I love my man, even if we fight alot! He's MINE. (((( hubby ))))
As for kids....welll...its been a challenge and not all good. But I am doing my best to make repair for any harm I might have done. I love my kids so much. I would not change having had them for all the world. But its not been easy. So we got married, so we could have kids, and it just seemed the thing to do at the time. I do not regret it at all.
Take care Dory, and don't worry, I LOVE your direct questions! :-)
M
Posted by muffled on December 23, 2007, at 18:22:00
In reply to Re: So is it only me that thinks sex is evil???, posted by Phillipa on December 23, 2007, at 17:57:28
Posted by muffled on December 23, 2007, at 19:13:05
In reply to Re: So is it only me that thinks sex is evil??? » muffled, posted by star008 on December 22, 2007, at 20:51:08
Posted by star008 on December 23, 2007, at 22:44:27
In reply to Sorry your ikid is scared :-( (nm) » star008, posted by muffled on December 23, 2007, at 19:13:05
she is scared sometimes but most of the time she is okay now. didn't used to be tht way at all.. there is hope
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 26, 2007, at 9:04:15
In reply to Re: So is it only me that thinks sex is evil???, posted by star008 on December 22, 2007, at 19:45:44
> look at the terrorist suicide bombers.. they think they will get 72 virgins in heaven!! How stupid can anyone be??
Please be sensitive to the feelings of others (such as Muslims).
But please don't take this personally, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
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Thanks,
Bob
Posted by star008 on December 26, 2007, at 19:31:38
In reply to Re: please be sensitive » star008, posted by Dr. Bob on December 26, 2007, at 9:04:15
Sorry. i didn't mean to offend anyone. My son has been in bagdad for an entire year. He is only 23. It makes me sad and angry.. My issue
Posted by star008 on December 26, 2007, at 19:33:41
In reply to Re: please be sensitive » star008, posted by Dr. Bob on December 26, 2007, at 9:04:15
jeez i feel just a like a loser who got in trouble in high school.. sorry i thought i was senstive
Posted by star008 on December 26, 2007, at 19:36:02
In reply to Re: please be sensitive » star008, posted by Dr. Bob on December 26, 2007, at 9:04:15
why is it that the first time u say anythng to me at all is to remind me to be nice?? okay.. i will let it go.. having a bad day and feeling really alone.
Posted by nellie7 on December 29, 2007, at 12:53:58
In reply to Re: please be sensitive » star008, posted by Dr. Bob on December 26, 2007, at 9:04:15
Dr. Bob,
I just wanted to point out that star008 wasn't being insensitive to the feelings of Muslims. She referred in her post to a very specific group of people (suicide bombers) who by chance happen to be Muslims. These people believe they will be rewarded for blowing up innocent civilians. I am sorry, but I fail to see how or why the feelings of such people need to be respected.
Nellie.
Posted by muffled on December 29, 2007, at 19:32:36
In reply to Re: please be sensitive » Dr. Bob, posted by star008 on December 26, 2007, at 19:31:38
> Sorry. i didn't mean to offend anyone. My son has been in bagdad for an entire year. He is only 23. It makes me sad and angry.. My issue
*sorry you got stung star.
Sorry bout your son :-(
Hope he is OK.
This is one of the bad things bout babble.
But its meant to just be a reminder of even some things, to ensure stuff don't get ugly here.
Manoman, I been blocked and that feels TERRIBLE.
Specially when you not expecting it and try and post and BAM.
:-(
Hurts.
But this'll pass.
S'ok.
We know you are OK.
Bobs just Bob.
Never mind him.
Thanks for your support star.
M
Posted by star008 on December 31, 2007, at 8:52:45
In reply to Re: please be sensitive-OUCH » star008, posted by muffled on December 29, 2007, at 19:32:36
i was mad cuz i wasn't talking about muslims at all.. muslims are peaceful.. i was speaking of extremists.. I was kind of surprised to get hit but Dr bob doesn't want muslims to think they are beng called stupid..Was also angry cuz it is the first time I have ever heard from him and it was for a reminder to be nice. He apologized and it is cool.. I understand and would never want to offend anyone..I wasn't thinking about muslims but it could be interpreted that way
Posted by Dinah on December 31, 2007, at 9:40:42
In reply to Re: please be sensitive-OUCH » muffled, posted by star008 on December 31, 2007, at 8:52:45
Dr. Bob rarely interacts with anyone except for administrative actions. He used to be a bit more active, but now he isn't.
Partly he was warning about generalizations. Not only generalizations about Muslims, but also about generalizations about men, or any group of people really.
I hope you can see it as an education rather than a criticism. The FAQ here are specific to Babble, and PBC's are intended to let people know about the rules.
Posted by star008 on January 1, 2008, at 1:51:54
In reply to Re: please be sensitive-OUCH » star008, posted by Dinah on December 31, 2007, at 9:40:42
I emailed hi m.. I know he isn't around but I was insulted that he never said a word to me before. It is okay and I see what I did wrong.. It was totally innocent as far as muslims go.. I would never insult someone because of their religion but I see how it could have been taken that way. I will be more careful
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