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Posted by gardenergirl on December 10, 2004, at 23:12:34
Okay, Daisy said to share both, so here goes dream 2.
My husband and I were at the airport. For some reason, I had it in my head it was the Atlanta airport, which we flew thru over Thanksgiving. We were walking around the gate area, and I was looking for a bathroom. (I often dream of needing to find a bathroom, only to wake up and find that I really DO need to go to the bathroom...any else do this?) It seemed like every bathroom I found was really disgustingly dirty. So bad I couldn't bring myself to use them. Although there was a small one tucked into a corner that was almost like a powder room in someone's home, although it did have a stall. This was not so bad, and I think I must have gone in there. There was a middle-aged, sort of heavy set woman washing her hands in there, I remember.
So my husband and I needed to return a rental car, and suddenly we were in this car and driving towards the place where you turn them in. I remember him saying something like the plant (where he must have been doing business) was a certain distance away, and I got the impression we were running late and might miss our plane. I remember the scenery, grassy medians and some smaller trees, a few businesses, etc. as we drove along. Then suddenly we were on this grassy hill outside of the airport building, which looked much more like an office building, and not at all like an airport. The car rental return place was across this big ditch/ravine type thing and down a hill. My hubby wanted me to stay on the airport side, perhaps because he was concerned about our flight. So I stood there and watched him DRAG the rental car by a big chain down the grassy hill, into the ditch, which had some deep water in it at one end, that almost looked like a swimming pool at the edge, and lug it up out of the water and onto a sidewalk. I remember thinking, "Wow, he's really going to do that."
At some point in the dream, when we were wandering inside the airport, I decided that I would use a quart of yellow paint I had and paint a large panel of wood. I only had the quart of paint and a one inch brush, so it didn't go very fast. I don't know why I took this upon myself. There was no one else around. The panel did have some peeling areas, and needed repainting, but hmmm. It also had some texture at the bottom, kind of like a textured ceiling, so I had to kind of "pounce" the brush on it in order to get the paint into all the texture.
There was also a younger woman who worked at the airport who gave us directions at some point. She seemed to know my hubby.
That's about all I can remember. Didn't mention this one to T. So, amateur Ts...have at it!
Thanks. Hope this is fun.
gg
Posted by crushedout on December 11, 2004, at 1:13:26
In reply to Dream #2...more bizarre looks into my unconscious, posted by gardenergirl on December 10, 2004, at 23:12:34
Fascinating. I'm terrible at analyzing dreams usually, so I have no insights, but it was great fun to read. And I can't wait to hear other people's analyses!
p.s. I always dream about having to pee or looking for a bathroom when i really have to pee. It's always very unsatisfying in the dream too (like, I can't find a bathroom) because of course if i do find one, i'll wet my bed!
Posted by mattw84 on December 11, 2004, at 3:20:45
In reply to Dream #2...more bizarre looks into my unconscious, posted by gardenergirl on December 10, 2004, at 23:12:34
First off -- I am absolutely astounded that you are able recall your dreams to vividly.
Secondly -- since you are so capable of this, you really need to look into lucid dreaming! (Feel free to email me for more information and links regarding this matthew.warner@pcc.edu )
Most psychologist's will tell you that dreams are an outpouring of our 'emotional tank' that we don't cognitively cope with throughout the day.
What I can derive from this dream:
A) You likely needed to pee, apparently not badly enough to wake you however =)
B) Your husband must recently have demonstrated either emotional or physical 'strength.' Thusly leading you to have him demonstrate that he really *can* do 'that.' (Strength and That are open to your interpretation of what those skills are.)
C) You recognize that nothing is perfect, even an airport wall. With its subtle differences in texture you took it upon yourself to 'adapt' to each 'variation' and 'fix' each flaw. (The adaptation could be a small outlet of a larger situation in your life that feel you aren't in control of -- but this could be a small facet of your subconcious desire to adapt to this in question...)
D) Almost certain the 'familiarity' between the airport employee (Especially since you made note of her being younger) reflects feelings of inadequacy regarding your relationship with your husband. Don't belittle this minor detail of the dream -- I would infact, recommend that if nothing else you bring up this detail with your current T. IMO this subtle detail semi-summates the entire dream.
For all -- I am merely a sophmore level psychology/philosophy student and have no credentials what-so-ever! So take my interpretation for what it is worth; not much!I definately enjoyed reading through this dream, please email me directly or at least continue to post your dreams here! I would love to have some insight into how you are able to recall your dreams with such detail!
Thanks again for posting this! This topic is very fascinating to me so please, please, PLEASE don't hesitate to post more!!
Sincerely,
Matt Warner
Posted by fires on December 11, 2004, at 13:23:54
In reply to Dream #2...more bizarre looks into my unconscious, posted by gardenergirl on December 10, 2004, at 23:12:34
Interesting, but I believe that dream interpretaton is a waste of time. ;)
Posted by Aphrodite on December 11, 2004, at 15:43:48
In reply to Dream #2...more bizarre looks into my unconscious, posted by gardenergirl on December 10, 2004, at 23:12:34
Unfortunately I have no expertise in this area, but the fact that you can recall them in such vivid detail is remarkable. Do you keep a dream journal? I know that if I don't write down my dreams asap, they're gone!
When I have rich dreams like that, that is when I wish I had a Jungian analyst. I am fascinated by the stories our unconscious minds need to tell.
My T and I rarely talk about dreams, probably because I don't bring them up:) Do most T's have some training in this area, or is it more of a Jungian thing?
Posted by Susan47 on December 11, 2004, at 20:11:41
In reply to Dream #2...more bizarre looks into my unconscious, posted by gardenergirl on December 10, 2004, at 23:12:34
Omigod GG, I dreamed about bathrooms for probably close to a year at the time I was breaking up with my exhusband, moving out, seeking therapy, breaking the bond with my parents, changing the bond with my kids, trying new social activities ... now I'm wondering whether the bathroom dreams (which always felt related to a public shame issue) .. I'm wondering whether bathroom dreams like that accompany feelings of great life changes and feeling unprepared for it. But stop, I haven't finished reading your post yet ... must do that too. Sorry if I've digressed from your issue ...........
Posted by fires on December 11, 2004, at 20:46:07
In reply to Re: Dream #2...more bizarre looks into my unconscious, posted by Susan47 on December 11, 2004, at 20:11:41
Posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2004, at 20:48:18
In reply to Re: dreams are merely electrical discharges (nm), posted by fires on December 11, 2004, at 20:46:07
Posted by Daisym on December 11, 2004, at 20:59:50
In reply to Dream #2...more bizarre looks into my unconscious, posted by gardenergirl on December 10, 2004, at 23:12:34
<<<My husband and I were at the airport. For some reason, I had it in my head it was the Atlanta airport, which we flew thru over Thanksgiving. We were walking around the gate area, and I was looking for a bathroom. (I often dream of needing to find a bathroom, only to wake up and find that I really DO need to go to the bathroom...any else do this?) It seemed like every bathroom I found was really disgustingly dirty. So bad I couldn't bring myself to use them. Although there was a small one tucked into a corner that was almost like a powder room in someone's home, although it did have a stall. This was not so bad, and I think I must have gone in there. There was a middle-aged, sort of heavy set woman washing her hands in there, I remember.
>>>I flashed on doing privates things in a more private place. I have no idea why the middle age woman was in there...but I agree that many people dream of bathrooms when they have to go themselves.
<<<So my husband and I needed to return a rental car, and suddenly we were in this car and driving towards the place where you turn them in. I remember him saying something like the plant (where he must have been doing business) was a certain distance away, and I got the impression we were running late and might miss our plane. I remember the scenery, grassy medians and some smaller trees, a few businesses, etc. as we drove along. Then suddenly we were on this grassy hill outside of the airport building, which looked much more like an office building, and not at all like an airport. The car rental return place was across this big ditch/ravine type thing and down a hill. My hubby wanted me to stay on the airport side, perhaps because he was concerned about our flight. So I stood there and watched him DRAG the rental car by a big chain down the grassy hill, into the ditch, which had some deep water in it at one end, that almost looked like a swimming pool at the edge, and lug it up out of the water and onto a sidewalk. I remember thinking, "Wow, he's really going to do that."
>>>You have so many journey symbols in this dream but there is a big focus on the "rental" car stuff -- like a temporary way to get where you are going. (school?) Sometimes these can also symbolize things that we might need something different in our lives to get us from one place to another. And being late and then the show of strength by your hubby. I'm getting fertility stuff, running out of time, needing to get out a rut and maybe even needing some help along these lines.
<<<At some point in the dream, when we were wandering inside the airport, I decided that I would use a quart of yellow paint I had and paint a large panel of wood. I only had the quart of paint and a one inch brush, so it didn't go very fast. I don't know why I took this upon myself. There was no one else around. The panel did have some peeling areas, and needed repainting, but hmmm. It also had some texture at the bottom, kind of like a textured ceiling, so I had to kind of "pounce" the brush on it in order to get the paint into all the texture.
>>>My first thought was "sister Merry-Sunshine" fixing and brightening up the world. You don't give up even if you only have a small brush. You took it upon yourself and no one else was around (you being a therapist?) But since you are still in the airport and still with your husband, it could still be about your relationship and you need to change your technique to fix it the way you want it. Airports are often used to symbolize life journeys and transitions. You are fixing the airport...
<<<There was also a younger woman who worked at the airport who gave us directions at some point. She seemed to know my hubby.
>>>Don't know about this. My therapist usually gets me to try to interpret my own dreams but he will also suggest if everyone in the dream is me, then what part of me would this represent? So a younger you might know the way? And she knew who your husband is but not you (herself?)
I'm not at my best right now. But it was fun to try. I'll keep thinking about them. Thanks for sharing.
Posted by Daisym on December 11, 2004, at 21:04:51
In reply to Re: REM2 -- You be the judge..., posted by mattw84 on December 11, 2004, at 3:20:45
Matt,
I wanted to say I liked your interpretations. I think we learn to remember our dreams with practice and with writing them down. My therapist is very interested in my dreams, more about what they bring up for me and what trust (or not) in him is symbolized. I think that I hate sleeping pills partly because I don't dream, or at least I can't remember them.
I haven't seen you post before, so if you are new, welcome! I look forward to reading more from you.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2004, at 22:31:42
In reply to Re: dreams are merely electrical discharges (nm), posted by fires on December 11, 2004, at 20:46:07
Posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2004, at 22:33:58
In reply to Re: dreams are merely electrical discharges (nm), posted by fires on December 11, 2004, at 20:46:07
I don't think that dreams are the gateway to the unconscious.
But the way in which we interpret our dreams, the way that some interpretations offered by others may feel right to us
is on a par with how people get something out of rune stones, and horoscopes...
How some therapists can use Rosarch(?? my spellings terrible) tests to learn.
Posted by fires on December 12, 2004, at 15:25:58
In reply to and reality » fires, posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2004, at 22:33:58
I've known people who would say that they have dreamt things that later came true. I'd reply: That's interesting, I dreamt recently that you passed away. End of conversation. ;)
Posted by alexandra_k on December 12, 2004, at 17:54:55
In reply to Re: and reality » alexandra_k, posted by fires on December 12, 2004, at 15:25:58
> I've known people who would say that they have dreamt things that later came true. I'd reply: That's interesting, I dreamt recently that you passed away. End of conversation. ;)
How is this relevant?
Do you think that other people posting to this thread think that their dreams tell them facts about future reality?
How did you come to that belief on the basis of what has been said?
Perhaps this is you, jumping to conclusions again?
Posted by alexandra_k on December 12, 2004, at 18:11:25
In reply to Re: dreams are merely electrical discharges (nm), posted by fires on December 11, 2004, at 20:46:07
>Perhaps this is you, jumping to conclusions again?
I apologise if that led to you feeling hurt or accused.
Posted by gardenergirl on December 12, 2004, at 20:21:55
In reply to Re: Dream #2...more bizarre looks into my unconsci » gardenergirl, posted by crushedout on December 11, 2004, at 1:13:26
> Fascinating. I'm terrible at analyzing dreams usually, so I have no insights, but it was great fun to read. And I can't wait to hear other people's analyses!
Happy to provide the entertainment. They usually entertain me, as well.
>
> p.s. I always dream about having to pee or looking for a bathroom when i really have to pee. It's always very unsatisfying in the dream too (like, I can't find a bathroom) because of course if i do find one, i'll wet my bed!LOL, I also dream I have to take a shower, and I'm looking for a private place to do this. I usually dream this when I know I have to get up or I'm going to be late.
gg
Posted by Dinah on December 12, 2004, at 20:26:27
In reply to Re: Dream #2...more bizarre looks into my unconsci, posted by gardenergirl on December 12, 2004, at 20:21:55
I always appreciate a rich dream life, though I'm useless at interpreting dreams. Fortunately my dreams are usually so concrete and obvious that they don't need much interpretation. Sort of the idiot sitcom of dreamers, I am. The point to the story is hammered home.
Thanks for giving me a vicarious look into yours. :)
Posted by gardenergirl on December 12, 2004, at 20:30:47
In reply to Re: REM2 -- You be the judge..., posted by mattw84 on December 11, 2004, at 3:20:45
> First off -- I am absolutely astounded that you are able recall your dreams to vividly.
Hmm, I guess I somehow developed the habit of thinking about my dreams more when I wake up. Sometimes I used to think hard about them in hopes of going back to sleep and getting back to them. I'm a big daydreamer, too.
> Secondly -- since you are so capable of this, you really need to look into lucid dreaming! (Feel free to email me for more information and links regarding this matthew.warner@pcc.edu )
Thanks, I will. I haven't heard of this.
>
> Most psychologist's will tell you that dreams are an outpouring of our 'emotional tank' that we don't cognitively cope with throughout the day.
>
> What I can derive from this dream:
>
> A) You likely needed to pee, apparently not badly enough to wake you however =)True.
>
> B) Your husband must recently have demonstrated either emotional or physical 'strength.' Thusly leading you to have him demonstrate that he really *can* do 'that.' (Strength and That are open to your interpretation of what those skills are.)Hmmm, could be. Can't think of what it might be, other than he is generally pretty supportive of me, even when things are rough depression-wise.
>
> C) You recognize that nothing is perfect, even an airport wall. With its subtle differences in texture you took it upon yourself to 'adapt' to each 'variation' and 'fix' each flaw. (The adaptation could be a small outlet of a larger situation in your life that feel you aren't in control of -- but this could be a small facet of your subconcious desire to adapt to this in question...)Hmm, my dissertation comes to mind. If only I could purchase a quart of dissertation #9 and apply generously to the page. :)
>
> D) Almost certain the 'familiarity' between the airport employee (Especially since you made note of her being younger) reflects feelings of inadequacy regarding your relationship with your husband. Don't belittle this minor detail of the dream -- I would infact, recommend that if nothing else you bring up this detail with your current T. IMO this subtle detail semi-summates the entire dream.Really? I can be very insecure, but that seems like a secondary thing to what we have been working on. I'll have to think about this. I didn't share this dream with him. Maybe I will.
Thanks for your insights, Matt.
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on December 12, 2004, at 20:35:18
In reply to Re: Dream #2...more bizarre looks into my unconscious » gardenergirl, posted by fires on December 11, 2004, at 13:23:54
> Interesting, but I believe that dream interpretaton is a waste of time. ;)
How sad.
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on December 12, 2004, at 20:38:39
In reply to Re: Dream #2...more bizarre looks into my unconsci » gardenergirl, posted by Aphrodite on December 11, 2004, at 15:43:48
> Do you keep a dream journal?
I don't. I think it's just thinking about them when I wake up a bit.
> When I have rich dreams like that, that is when I wish I had a Jungian analyst. I am fascinated by the stories our unconscious minds need to tell.
>
> My T and I rarely talk about dreams, probably because I don't bring them up:) Do most T's have some training in this area, or is it more of a Jungian thing?I know I've had no training in this. But then my program is very heavy on CBT. I would love to have a Jungian analyst's take on them, too. Just to see what they say.
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on December 12, 2004, at 20:40:30
In reply to Re: Dream #2...more bizarre looks into my unconscious, posted by Susan47 on December 11, 2004, at 20:11:41
> .. I'm wondering whether bathroom dreams like that accompany feelings of great life changes and feeling unprepared for it.
Wow, given what you connect with it, that could be. But then again, our dreams are all about what they make us think of, too. So what you think of in relation to bathrooms is just as important as what I think of. But they could be very different.
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on December 12, 2004, at 20:40:44
In reply to Re: Dream #2...more bizarre looks into my unconscious, posted by Susan47 on December 11, 2004, at 20:11:41
> .. I'm wondering whether bathroom dreams like that accompany feelings of great life changes and feeling unprepared for it.
Wow, given what you connect with it, that could be. But then again, our dreams are all about what they make us think of, too. So what you think of in relation to bathrooms is just as important as what I think of. But they could be very different.
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on December 12, 2004, at 20:50:31
In reply to Re: Dream #2...more bizarre looks into my unconscious, posted by Daisym on December 11, 2004, at 20:59:50
> >
> >>>You have so many journey symbols in this dream but there is a big focus on the "rental" car stuff -- like a temporary way to get where you are going. (school?) Sometimes these can also symbolize things that we might need something different in our lives to get us from one place to another. And being late and then the show of strength by your hubby. I'm getting fertility stuff, running out of time, needing to get out a rut and maybe even needing some help along these lines.Wow, lots of stuff there. It's interesting. I used to have a recurring dream (haven't had in months if not longer) when I was backing out my car and I would find I couldn't stop. I would hit the brakes, but the car would keep going. Nothing bad ever happened, but I didn't have control, obviously. And the fertility and timing thing...I don't think of that much, but I do get pretty sad when others my age are having babies. That should be a happy thing.
> >
> >>>My first thought was "sister Merry-Sunshine" fixing and brightening up the world. You don't give up even if you only have a small brush. You took it upon yourself and no one else was around (you being a therapist?) But since you are still in the airport and still with your husband, it could still be about your relationship and you need to change your technique to fix it the way you want it. Airports are often used to symbolize life journeys and transitions. You are fixing the airport...Well, Merry Sunshine is not really me. But the fixing the relationship thing...well now that I think about it, there is some fixing that needs doing. And it has a lot of layers if not texture to it. So it's not easy task. That's why I/we have been putting it off til I get done with school.
>
> <<<There was also a younger woman who worked at the airport who gave us directions at some point. She seemed to know my hubby.
>
> >>>Don't know about this. My therapist usually gets me to try to interpret my own dreams but he will also suggest if everyone in the dream is me, then what part of me would this represent? So a younger you might know the way? And she knew who your husband is but not you (herself?)This makes my head hurt. I'll have to think about that tomorrow. (Said Miss Scarlett).
>
> I'm not at my best right now. But it was fun to try. I'll keep thinking about them. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for all of this. I love it!gg
Posted by gardenergirl on December 12, 2004, at 20:53:33
In reply to Re: and reality » alexandra_k, posted by fires on December 12, 2004, at 15:25:58
> I've known people who would say that they have dreamt things that later came true. I'd reply: That's interesting, I dreamt recently that you passed away. End of conversation. ;)
How very charming.
Posted by fires on December 12, 2004, at 20:58:42
In reply to Re: Dream #2...more bizarre looks into my unconscious » fires, posted by gardenergirl on December 12, 2004, at 20:35:18
"How sad"
Why sad?
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