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Posted by Fallen4myT on March 7, 2004, at 20:07:51
In reply to Re: that's hilarious but also not » Fallen4myT, posted by crushedout on March 7, 2004, at 20:02:34
Yeah Crushed it was and still is SO funny and I could hear the guy at the other end all stumbling for words.
You can bet unethical or not if my T said "Hey babe lets run off to Tahiti" or something I would :) My T and my pets are the only GOOD things in my life really sad but true...I do have food and stuff but you know what I mean.
Posted by Apperceptor on March 7, 2004, at 21:34:20
In reply to Re: that's hilarious but also not » crushedout, posted by Fallen4myT on March 7, 2004, at 20:07:51
Fallen-
I'd like to mention this in a different thread, but I do apoligize for insulting your life at this point in another thread.
Anyway, I was very caught by the statement that your therapist and your pets are the only positive thing in your life right now. I bet you're right, and I think I know the feeling. I want to see if you can find something else that's positive...not because I want to do therapy with you, or because I'm challenging you, but because I really want to see it happen.
Please recognize, for you benefit and for your friends', that you've a great support network here...dare I say where nobody else could understand? And here's my cheesy alert...because that's what this will sound like...but you've got very strong inner resources, as I hope I've told you before.
The integrity of most people on this list has really impressed me, and shamed me for how I initially entered it based on a few select posts that weren't representative of people's actual feelings. Good job, to you Fallen, and to all of you.
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 7, 2004, at 22:00:23
In reply to Re: that's hilarious but also not, posted by Apperceptor on March 7, 2004, at 21:34:20
Aw, Apperceptor, Thank you that was a really sweet and nice post and I like cheese :) Please don't worry about what all was said before that is past and this is today :)
And yes, my pets and T are the best things in my life right now and my T often sez things about my strength and inner resources. I simply think like that old Tom Petty song sez " You can stand me up at the gates of hell but I won't back down" applies to me. I can hang in there like you would NOT believe and put up with a lot of stuff here but I do O.K :)
HUGS
Posted by DaisyM on March 7, 2004, at 22:47:36
In reply to Re: envy » DaisyM, posted by crushedout on March 7, 2004, at 19:56:36
I think I worry because I'm always concerned that my stuff is too hard...too much and my distress over the memories is sometimes expansive. Plus when I started therapy I had no intention of talking about or dealing with all this stuff so I tell him a lot that "he didn't sign on for this" nor did he know what he was getting. Working with abuse victims is really hard. Not that he isn't just great! :) There is a small part of me that is just *sure* at some point he will be overwhelmed and will refer me out. That part gets smaller all the time though.
I think I'm lucky. He tells me that learning to trust him and know that he is there for me is a large part of the therapy we are doing. It wouldn't occur to me to get the wrong idea, guess I'm dense?!
Posted by Apperceptor on March 7, 2004, at 22:51:47
In reply to Re: that's hilarious but also not » Apperceptor, posted by Fallen4myT on March 7, 2004, at 22:00:23
I really like that you made the distinction between "best things" and "only things." That meant a lot to me.
That is a GREAT song. Hold on to that...I love Tom Petty too.
Your ability to forgive wil get you very far. I feel like I've been playing book publicist tonight, but I read an EXCELLENT book a few years back called "A Return to Love," by Marianne Williamson, that talks about the incredible power in forgiveness. What I said earlier without taking the time to understand fully the situation was hurtful, and how you are now reacting to and supporting me is very admirable. You have so much power in your ability to love other people.
Thank you for existing -
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 7, 2004, at 23:19:39
In reply to Re: that's hilarious but also not » Fallen4myT, posted by Apperceptor on March 7, 2004, at 22:51:47
Apperceptor, I am *truly touched* by what you have just posted. I really am speechless/typeless. All I can say is WOW thank you :)
I am a huge music fan from Classical to Rap and everything inbetween
Now, lets hope out of this my T got the hint I want a current non-net picture lol :P
Posted by Apperceptor on March 7, 2004, at 23:30:50
In reply to Re: that's hilarious but also not » Apperceptor, posted by Fallen4myT on March 7, 2004, at 23:19:39
Well...in light of what you know I've said in the past....I'm just going to trust you have a strong connection with your therapist that isn't my business to understand, and that's great. I like the approach...I wish I remember who said it (?)...of saying you like pictures of those who mean a lot to you. If you can muster the inner strength to promise yourself you won't do anything that will disrespect your therapist OR disrespect yourself, I would simply present it as that. But really, Fallen, I'm convinced I don't have enough understanding in your unique situation to give strong advice...so if this helps, I'm thrilled, and if it doesn't, LET ME KNOW how it goes!!!! :-)
And remember it takes a lot to consider so many sides of the situation you are in, as you clearly are attempting (and succeeding) to do. I don't hear of all too many being able to manage it, although I'm being very pleasantly surprised by much of the integrity I'm seeing on this list.
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 7, 2004, at 23:41:43
In reply to Re: that's hilarious but also not, posted by Apperceptor on March 7, 2004, at 23:30:50
LOL A, no way would I ask and I know I would not do anything wrong with his picture and he most likey would not mind my asking and give me one...but I would rather send Tinydancer in there to do the job for me :) SHE'S got guts lol ..Thanks and we will see if he does..IF he does it will be posted as a new thread :) for all to see.
Posted by Apperceptor on March 8, 2004, at 0:36:59
In reply to Re: that's hilarious but also not » Apperceptor, posted by Fallen4myT on March 7, 2004, at 23:41:43
I'm inclined to go pathologically against my original post and wholeheartedly in line with a subsequent post in saying that if you feel this request is appropriate with your therapist, go for it! I still have to say i LOVE the approach of indicating you like having images of those who've helped you on the way. You certainly seem "together" enough that I'm not worried about the issues that motivated my original, quite possible disasterous, post. Go for it!
As far as those who've found the pictures on the internet...maybe they shouldn't have put them online in the first place if they were concerned. For example...I wouldn't put my picture online...not out of dislike for my clients AT ALL, but only because *MY OWN ISSUES* make me slightly uncomfortable. If your therapist put his or her picture online, all you need is a telephone jack or a cable modem to make it acceptable in my mind.
Cheers!
Posted by Pfinstegg on March 8, 2004, at 0:39:15
In reply to Re: that's hilarious but also not » Apperceptor, posted by Fallen4myT on March 7, 2004, at 23:41:43
I guess some people might know from old posts that I go to a psychoanalyst, and so lie on a couch. The possibilities for embarrasment are ENDLESS! There you are, open to view, unable to see him, but very aware that he can see everything you do. When I first started lying down on it, I was EXTREMELY nervous; I just couldn't lie still, but would keep flailing my legs around, and getting into awkward positions- all the while trying my best to free-associate and also listen to sometimes alarming and even terrifying comments and interpretations (including ones concerning my body posture and movement) issuing from just behind my right ear. There are two pillows on the couch- one for your head, and one alongside for sitting up and leaning against. The worst day I ever had was when I knocked first one and then the other pillow onto the floor. I sat up to try and retrieve them; but then my necklace came undone and fell to the floor also, along with my purse, which flew open and spilled everything out. I made another desperate grab for those, and FELL OFF THE COUCH MYSELF!
But, he was really terrific. He began laughing and then I did too. We both had a real case of the giggles. All the tension died down (for the time being, we were safely off the topic which had caused all of this.). As I scrabbled around to gather everything up, he told me that he had actually written a paper called "Falling Off the Couch"! He said it happens quite a lot when patients' emotions are really running high. I had never heard of anyone doing that, but I think it was kind of a turning point, as I don't flail around now, the way I used to. That's one thing about the couch- you are trusting your body, as well as your thoughts and feelings- to your analyst. It's really kind of a privilege, you know?
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 8, 2004, at 0:48:15
In reply to Re: that's hilarious but also not, posted by Apperceptor on March 8, 2004, at 0:36:59
Lol yes his picture is on the website to his clinics and I have it but I want a good one with a smile and more current..It sits on my hard drive and I look now and then thats it....So I really doubt in light of the fact the he is on the web that he would mind but I can be so shy...I still wanna hire Tinydancer she's brave and can ask :-) MY T always tells me to ask for things (we are working on this..Id rather site back and hope lol) and so on cause I tend not to...boy he might be proud of me but...No hahaha no way..color me shy.
ME I am with you, NO picture of me on the web now or ever.
Posted by Apperceptor on March 8, 2004, at 0:53:14
In reply to Re: that's hilarious but also not » Apperceptor, posted by Fallen4myT on March 8, 2004, at 0:48:15
Let's think of a way to make this an experience for you. I think it will be. I'll get back to you, alright?
Posted by tinydancer on March 8, 2004, at 1:53:41
In reply to Re: that's hilarious but also not, posted by Apperceptor on March 7, 2004, at 23:30:50
> I like the approach...I wish I remember who said it (?)...of saying you like pictures of those who mean a lot to you.
Hi App, Tiny Dancer here.
I hope I didn't say anything to cause you to feel hurt or put down in any way. I am really happy to have you here. I think you have contributed a lot of worthwhile information here. I just saw that you had quoted me there up above and decided to pipe up...
Barring my insolence, did you understand my point of view and my feelings? You can even email me if you would like:
[xxx]
That goes for anyone of course.
Posted by tinydancer on March 8, 2004, at 1:56:27
In reply to Re: that's hilarious but also not » Apperceptor, posted by Fallen4myT on March 7, 2004, at 23:41:43
> LOL A, no way would I ask and I know I would not do anything wrong with his picture and he most likey would not mind my asking and give me one...but I would rather send Tinydancer in there to do the job for me :) SHE'S got guts lol ..Thanks and we will see if he does..IF he does it will be posted as a new thread :) for all to see.
HAHA! Well, I don't know if I have guts, I just trust my T a lot and feel safety in asking him whatever is on my mind. But I do have a nasty habit of doing that anyway....I am giggling about this whole "doing something bad" with the picture. Really! Um, I have never done anything bad with ANY picture...Prefer to use my mind with EYES CLOSED...hahaha
Posted by tinydancer on March 8, 2004, at 1:58:48
In reply to Re: the couch.., posted by Pfinstegg on March 8, 2004, at 0:39:15
I'm laughing because this is something I would do. When I was dating my husband he was trying to grab me or something and I went the wrong way and fell off the bed. Really hard. We were dressed and everything, I just happened to be laying on the bed. He actually TELLS people about this. It really hurt, although it was pretty funny.
Posted by Pfinstegg on March 8, 2004, at 2:07:35
In reply to Re: the couch.. » Pfinstegg, posted by tinydancer on March 8, 2004, at 1:58:48
Yeah - that's the thing about couches and beds - sex is always in the air!
Posted by tinydancer on March 8, 2004, at 3:20:38
In reply to Re: the couch.. » tinydancer, posted by Pfinstegg on March 8, 2004, at 2:07:35
> Yeah - that's the thing about couches and beds - sex is always in the air!
LOL!!!!
Posted by fallsfall on March 8, 2004, at 7:05:02
In reply to Re: the couch.., posted by Pfinstegg on March 8, 2004, at 0:39:15
What a great story!!
Posted by shortelise on March 8, 2004, at 9:46:42
In reply to Re: the couch.., posted by Pfinstegg on March 8, 2004, at 0:39:15
lol thanks for the first laugh of my day.
ShortE
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 8, 2004, at 15:07:44
In reply to Re: that's hilarious but also not » Fallen4myT, posted by tinydancer on March 8, 2004, at 1:56:27
Oh Tinydancer I have faith in you :) and know your nasty habit of asking could work for me. I so wish I could send you in my place lol...
Now on the matter of using your mind :) you sure thats *all* you use ....giggling. DO NOT ANSWER THAT LOL LMAO!!!!!
Now you have me loling thinking of your T reading this and wondering..are her eyes open or closed right now :) (Fallen bushes AND LOL's her head off)
<Tinydancer said: "HAHA! Well, I don't know if I have guts, I just trust my T a lot and feel safety in asking him whatever is on my mind. But I do have a nasty habit of doing that anyway....I am giggling about this whole "doing something bad" with the picture. Really! Um, I have never done anything bad with ANY picture...Prefer to use my mind with EYES CLOSED...hahaha"
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 8, 2004, at 15:16:33
In reply to Re: that's hilarious but also not, posted by Apperceptor on March 8, 2004, at 0:53:14
OK THANKS :) Oh, it will be an experience all right lol :) I shall wait on your ideas. I AM shy so be ready....Maybe you can take a plane here and tell him you're doing a study on T's and need his picture for the yearbook he would never connect us and I want a wallet color shot :) He was in psychology Today once but no picture just some yapping on him...dang!! I am starting to lol more who thought you'd be working on ideas to help someone get a picture of their T wayyyyy too cute :D
> Let's think of a way to make this an experience for you. I think it will be. I'll get back to you, alright?
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 8, 2004, at 15:22:18
In reply to Re: the couch.., posted by Pfinstegg on March 8, 2004, at 0:39:15
Pfinstegg , I busted out loling so hard when I saw this. I would have died ..and loled at the same time. You sound a tad like me when I am nervous I cannot sit still and move around way too much. I am sooooo glad I do not have to lay on the sofa :D I have an odd sense of humor and the minute the pillows went off I know I would have started to lol when the necklace went....I would have been belly loling but once I left I would have died, then loled then died loling. Your T sounds like he has a GOOD sense of humor and made it easy..I hope you wear slacks :D IN CASE
Posted by Pfinstegg on March 8, 2004, at 15:51:13
In reply to Re: the couch.. » Pfinstegg, posted by Fallen4myT on March 8, 2004, at 15:22:18
Slacks are an ABSOLUTE requirement, no matter what else (lipgloss, manicure, OK hair, polish on shoes) I may or may not be able to muster on a given day. When I imagine myself lying there in a SKIRT and keeping it DOWN, I think, "well, that would be a cured Pfinstegg!" Not happening any time soon. I'm afraid. He's an absolutely wonderful analyst, but we both have our work cut out for us- for several years, at least, I think. Actually, one of my fantasies (for the future) is to wear my prettiest summer dress in there and be able to lie there quietly without having an apparel disaster!
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 8, 2004, at 16:34:08
In reply to Re: the couch.. » Fallen4myT, posted by Pfinstegg on March 8, 2004, at 15:51:13
Summer is coming up eh? :) I vote you wear a pretty summer dress....maybe you can add more lol's to this thread :) See, goofy as I am I would wear a skirt and or dress thats ALL I wear to see my T. I would pray I not fall off the sofa though. Ugh in your therapy he doesnt talk in that kind right? yucko if so
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 8, 2004, at 21:28:11
In reply to Re: that's hilarious but also not » Fallen4myT, posted by Apperceptor on March 7, 2004, at 22:51:47
> I read an EXCELLENT book a few years back called "A Return to Love," by Marianne Williamson, that talks about the incredible power in forgiveness...
I'd just like to plug the double double quotes feature at this site:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#amazon
The first time anyone refers to a book without using this option, I post this to try to make sure he or she at least knows about it. It's just an option, though, and doesn't *have* to be used. If people *choose* not to use it, I'd be interested why not, but I'd like that redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020918/msgs/7717.html
Thanks!
Bob
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