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Posted by Dinah on January 12, 2004, at 17:26:20
I think I've had a therapy breakthrough, or at least a sudden moment of clarity about something that was previously a kneejerk reaction.
Tonight, because of it, I'm terrified to go anywhere where there might be people, including myself.
And I can't even share it with my favorite support network (you guys) because it's not appropriate subject matter for mixed company (or same sex company for that matter), never mind an internet board.
I laboriously wrote it down to hand to my therapist tomorrow because there's no way I'm going to say it.
And to top it all off, while I think it's a real insight, I'm not altogether sure it's not the Klonopin. I've been a bit sideways since I took it, which is weird because it doesn't usually affect me like this. But maybe that's because I took two yesterday plus a Risperdal. I guess I'd better not drive.
By the way, I got some polite disapproval today that my main support network aside from my therapist is online. :( Like it's my fault my best friend died. :(
Posted by Karen_kay on January 12, 2004, at 17:45:52
In reply to I think I'm losing my grip, posted by Dinah on January 12, 2004, at 17:26:20
<By the way, I got some polite disapproval today that my main support network aside from my therapist is online.
*Grunt
Wow! Sign me up for an appointment with this therapist. I could use some clarity right about now. Though, I won't mention how we know each other. And it's good that you have an appointment tomorrow rather than three days from now, though I think you'd somehow find a way to get in there earlier. I hope that your moment of clarity stays with you through tomorrow as well. Let us know how it goes.
Posted by Dinah on January 12, 2004, at 18:37:24
In reply to Re: I think I'm losing my grip, posted by Karen_kay on January 12, 2004, at 17:45:52
I don't *think* it was related to this morning's appointment. You never know though.
Do your moments of clarity also prove fleeting? Often by the next day, I've lost the point of the whole thing. Perhaps proving they're med induced.
Posted by Karen_kay on January 12, 2004, at 20:18:36
In reply to Re: I think I'm losing my grip » Karen_kay, posted by Dinah on January 12, 2004, at 18:37:24
Most of my moments of clarity are in fact fleeting, I'm afraid. Especially David Lynch films! I have it for a second and then it's just gone. But, it seems I lose them before I even have a chance to write them down. Usually when I try to explain them to someone else, the other person has no clue what I'm talking about. But it is typical that others don't always follow my train of thought.
Posted by DaisyM on January 12, 2004, at 23:08:16
In reply to Re: I think I'm losing my grip » Dinah, posted by Karen_kay on January 12, 2004, at 20:18:36
I call it crisis clarity...sometimes I figure stuff out when I'm really worried about something else. It doesn't last so I also write it down. I liken it to an emotional window being opened and the wind clearing the cob webs out.
As far as negative reaction to on-line support, ignore it. She is, after all, a person who makes her living in face-to-face interactions. Some people don't get how much help there is in releasing feelings in such an accepting atmosphere.
Posted by cubic_me on January 13, 2004, at 6:32:48
In reply to Fleeting clarity, posted by DaisyM on January 12, 2004, at 23:08:16
My T has been abit disproving of my online support network too (even though I don't post here much, I post on other boards etc). I think next time she mentions it I'll say that it was the only place I could find people who could be bothered to listen after the only friend I could talk to decided life wasn't worth living :-( (although I'd probably never say that, cos I'm was too shy!)
I try not to worry about it too much. As long as I feel that I'm being helped by online friends and I might be helping them, I'll continue to chat.
Posted by Dinah on January 13, 2004, at 6:51:16
In reply to Fleeting clarity, posted by DaisyM on January 12, 2004, at 23:08:16
It's still clarity this morning. And perhaps you're right that the stress (and the extra Klonopin that I didn't really realize I had taken a bit more than I usually take) shook it loose.
It's a bit of something that was wordlessly floating around the edges of my mind, and now has words.
What's also clear is that it's doubtful I'll share those words with my therapist. They aren't terribly rational and they're *terribly* embarassing.
Posted by Dinah on January 13, 2004, at 6:54:10
In reply to Online support network, posted by cubic_me on January 13, 2004, at 6:32:48
Oh, I don't worry about it at all. Even before my best friend died, by therapist thought that my IRL support network was lacking. When I got involved on Babble he was delighted that I was making connections that I don't generally make in person. While he might prefer that I make both, he's got full respect for online friends.
I wouldn't let what someone who's met me once say bother me much about something my therapist approves of. (And he'll always be my therapist, even if she takes me on, she'll be the EMDR person).
Posted by Dinah on January 13, 2004, at 6:55:59
In reply to Re: Fleeting clarity » DaisyM, posted by Dinah on January 13, 2004, at 6:51:16
The thoughts aren't about him. I realize the way I phrased it it might sound like a clarity about trasference, but this time it's about ME all MEEEE!
Posted by cubic_me on January 13, 2004, at 7:07:43
In reply to Re: Online support network » cubic_me, posted by Dinah on January 13, 2004, at 6:54:10
> she'll be the EMDR person.
I like that!
Posted by gardenergirl on January 13, 2004, at 19:31:05
In reply to Re: Online support network, posted by cubic_me on January 13, 2004, at 7:07:43
Dinah,
Even if your thoughts don't seem rational, I'm glad you wrote them down. Fleeting or not, med-induced or not, it still came from you, and who knows you better? Whether you are ready to share them or not, if the window opened a bit, then the next time, you may know more what you are seeing. Nothing wrong with that...BTW, what is your IRL support network? Just curious.
g
Posted by Dinah on January 13, 2004, at 19:49:07
In reply to Re: Online support network, posted by gardenergirl on January 13, 2004, at 19:31:05
> Dinah,
> Even if your thoughts don't seem rational, I'm glad you wrote them downAfter setting the groundwork with tons of embarassment, I just handed him the paper that I hadn't even looked at since I wrote it. He was great! Talked about the embarassment first, and how it was great that I gave it to him, and after I took my hands from over my face, he talked to me about content. I feel so *relieved* tonight. He was soooo unphazed (sp?) and soooo sensitive and insightful. He's *really* good sometimes.
The issue is by no means settled, but we both know what it is. :) (And when he pointed out the distortions in my thinking, he agreed that knowing it wouldn't change it right away. Extra credit points!)
>
> BTW, what is your IRL support network? Just curious.
>Well, I haven't much of one. That was the criticism. My friends are mostly ones that I made in school. Many have moved away. My best friend, who went to school with me, and worked with me, died two years ago next April. I've got my husband, of course.... And my therapist.
And some great online friends, and this board.
But I'm schizoid/schizotypal you know. (grin)
Posted by Dinah on January 13, 2004, at 19:57:51
In reply to Re: Online support network, posted by gardenergirl on January 13, 2004, at 19:31:05
Posted by gardenergirl on January 13, 2004, at 20:22:53
In reply to Re: Online support network, posted by Dinah on January 13, 2004, at 19:49:07
Posted by gardenergirl on January 13, 2004, at 20:24:50
In reply to Re: Online support network, posted by Dinah on January 13, 2004, at 19:49:07
Glad it went well and that you are feeling better!
g
Posted by crushedout on January 14, 2004, at 11:20:33
In reply to Clarification on clarity. , posted by Dinah on January 13, 2004, at 6:55:59
Oh, Dinah, you have me so intrigued. And I'm also ashamed, and think you must hate me, because I'm sure I've posted things on here that would be "inappropriate" in your book. Sorry.(Am I? Well, sort of, yes. Especially if I've offended you.)
> The thoughts aren't about him. I realize the way I phrased it it might sound like a clarity about trasference, but this time it's about ME all MEEEE!
Posted by Dinah on January 14, 2004, at 17:26:51
In reply to Re: Clarification on clarity. » Dinah, posted by crushedout on January 14, 2004, at 11:20:33
No, nothing posted here by anyone has seemed inapproriate to me. But this was like a boil that need to be lanced, and now it is, and I feel so much better though really strange.
It is too weird to have any applicability to anyone in the entire world but me, I think. But he had me laughing about it by the end of the session. :)
Posted by crushedout on January 14, 2004, at 17:30:35
In reply to Re: Clarification on clarity. » crushedout, posted by Dinah on January 14, 2004, at 17:26:51
Well, I'm glad you feel better.I remain intrigued, but a little intrigue is good for the soul.
> No, nothing posted here by anyone has seemed inapproriate to me. But this was like a boil that need to be lanced, and now it is, and I feel so much better though really strange.
>
> It is too weird to have any applicability to anyone in the entire world but me, I think. But he had me laughing about it by the end of the session. :)
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