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Posted by Kalamatianos on December 22, 2003, at 23:02:33
This quiz can provide a snapshot of what people feel about anger.
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Anger Truths & Myths
[circle letter choice]
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[circle # if not understood]Myth <<< A B C D >>> Truth
A B C D 1. My self-respect doesn't depend upon my willingness
to fight and defend my dignity.A B C D 2. Whatever I do when I get angry is justified because
the other person was bad to me and made me do it.A B C D 3. Getting rid of complaining is an important step
to anger management and staying sober.A B C D 4. I need to fight for my respect because my respect
depends on what people see me do.A B C D 5. Whatever you think of me is none of my business.
A B C D 6. It's OK for me to fight when I can't stand what's
happening to me.A B C D 7. When I don't complain, I am free from angry hurt
feelings and have the option to accept those
who have acted badly.A B C D 8. I was born with feelings I can't change by myself.
A B C D 9. When I get angry, I am wise to look at what will
result from the violence before I fight back.A B C D 10. Since anger is a natural feeling, I can't avoid
violent reactions when someone treats me badly.A B C D 11. Anger is useful for small or helpless children and
causes more trouble than it solves in adult life.A B C D 12. If I don't complain about wrongdoers, people will
think I don't know right from wrong.A B C D 13. It is possible to know that something is unjust
or unfair without getting angry and violent.A B C D 14. I am too weak to withstand injustice without
using anger and violence to get even.A B C D 15. I can get over being angry by realizing that
disrespect from others does not change who I am.A B C D 16. Anger is a natural inborn reaction so I am
not responsible for what I do when I get angry.
A B C D 17. I know that I can withstand any badness and
unfairness done by others toward me.A B C D 18. I must get angry when people act with disrespect
toward me or they will take advantage and use me.A B C D 19. I have the emotional toughness to endure any badness
or unfairness without getting angry or complaining.A B C D 20. Anger is an energy form in me and I will explode if
I don't let it out often.A B C D 21. Angry people choose violent self-defense if they
have the faulty belief that they can't stand to
be hurt or treated unfairly.
Posted by DaisyM on December 23, 2003, at 0:29:27
In reply to Anger Truths or Myths, posted by Kalamatianos on December 22, 2003, at 23:02:33
Just curious...
Background? General area of country?
Posted by Kalamatianos on December 23, 2003, at 1:46:39
In reply to Re: Anger Truths or Myths » Kalamatianos, posted by DaisyM on December 23, 2003, at 0:29:27
Silicon Gulch (Sunnyvale/Santa Clara) CA
Since this is me passing on this quiz to anyone who finds it interesting, I'm not making claims as to who might have authored it. You can add to it if you want, even. I thought the truth vs. myth nature was an eye-openner for 1 thing. Always seem to see true/false, which seems more like an opinion than truth/myth. The author must have solid evidence to support the myth angle. What do you think?
Posted by DaisyM on December 23, 2003, at 10:29:19
In reply to Re: Anger Truths or Myths » DaisyM, posted by Kalamatianos on December 23, 2003, at 1:46:39
Have you posted here under previous name? Your writing style is unique and familiar?
Just curious...not a criticism.
Posted by Kalamatianos on December 25, 2003, at 20:59:26
In reply to Re: Anger Truths or Myths » Kalamatianos, posted by DaisyM on December 23, 2003, at 10:29:19
Do you mean unique like a duck outa water?
You've been here awhile. With all the thinly veiled anger I hear in these postings, why do you think more posters aren't "crossing-swords" with this anger quiz?
Since I'm not the author of the quiz, I'm not defending it's virtue. But it seems odd to me that no one got angry about this or that implication in the quiz. I hand copies to several different people for all sorts of reasons and there's always a point of irritation this way or that.
Got any ideas as to what the posting folks might be seeing or not seeing?
Posted by DaisyM on December 25, 2003, at 22:36:15
In reply to Re: Anger Truths or Myths » DaisyM, posted by Kalamatianos on December 25, 2003, at 20:59:26
You didn't answer the question so I'll take that as a yes. I don't read "thinly veiled" I think people are pretty up front with how they feel.
Posted by Kalamatianos on December 26, 2003, at 2:02:35
In reply to You didn't answer the question. , posted by DaisyM on December 25, 2003, at 22:36:15
Thanks Ms DaisyM, for responding.
Dr Bob simply asked me to change my posting name. Because I was new, I had made a mistake or 2. I have cleaned up and tightened up so as to not irritate. I speak from the first person and about me and what I consider the miracle that I have become, considering the dark pit I used to see my life from before.
Inside 12 step programs, their is a level of despair that denies a members right to heal and get well from the disease of addiction. Its as if members are shown the door to the way out and they aren't allowed to go through it. Food addictions were my flavor of dysfunction. A member must eat 3 times a day, so in a way, food can be a bigger problem than drugs and alcohol.
With drugs and alcohol, there is still somewhat of a voluntary nature to the addiction. Yet the loudest voices saying you can never get well come from drug and alcohol abusers who succeed in becoming dry, clean, and sober, but never well.
I hear a similar notion in the honest sharing during posting. Since I have personally witnessed this progress to unqualified wellness, I freely pass on every clue I can think of. I also sense that what I share is so new and controversial that it can't be trusted and therefore must be avoided. Are you sensing this in responses to my postings?
I am not desparate to be understood, even though that is a common urge. I was carefully coached on that very point and many years ago dealt with it directly. So instead, I'm here to help, and I hope I am helping.
What do you think? Am I helping? Or, is helping from the viewpoint of success, so outrageous that I become part of the problem instead of part of the solution?
I trust your opinion.
Posted by DaisyM on December 26, 2003, at 12:58:43
In reply to I'm really not hiding » DaisyM, posted by Kalamatianos on December 26, 2003, at 2:02:35
I am impressed with that honest answer.
My opinion, for what it's worth, is that much of the valuable information you have to share is lost in the presentation somehow. It is hard on the brain to sort through some of it, because it it is pretty intellectual and not very emotional and yeah, you do come off a little defensive/accusitory (sp?) sometimes. Again, not a critism, just an observation from my own reactions.
That said, I think it is really great that you have been so successful with the type of therapy/treatments you have tried. You obviously have great passion about your life and the changes you have made in it. I'm new to this Board but I know that as long as opinions are give respectfully, all seem to be welcome.
I think it is great you are brave enough to make adjustments and keep trying. I can't say I would have.
Posted by Kalamatianos on December 26, 2003, at 15:31:24
In reply to Re: I'm really not hiding » Kalamatianos, posted by DaisyM on December 26, 2003, at 12:58:43
This is the end of the thread.
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