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Posted by MidnightBlue on January 8, 2008, at 16:02:55
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Still 199.5 » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on January 8, 2008, at 13:15:53
A cream soda and prunes. No, not together!
MB
Posted by Phillipa on January 8, 2008, at 19:46:47
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Still 199.5 » MidnightBlue, posted by Dinah on January 8, 2008, at 13:50:08
Okay to add something? Tell me to leave if bothering you two but when did aerobics also did body measurements and had people keep a food diary as you are doing. Found most people if they used less margaine , mayonnaise, salad dressing, little things the calories sure added up. Nuts are great but the sugar content of dried fruit is way up there seriously. And granola bars too. A big pretzel is low in calories too. Keep the protein every four hours for even blood sugar. One inch of cheese, few nuts. It will work and plenty of water. Love Phillipa
Posted by Dinah on January 8, 2008, at 21:07:22
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Still 199.5 » Dinah, posted by Phillipa on January 8, 2008, at 19:46:47
Of course I welcome your input!
I'm such a picky eater. If I could find cheese I liked, I think that would be a great snack. Maybe I'll try again.
I've gotten my boss's approval for putting a small refrigerator at my desk, but I haven't decided if it's worth doing.
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 8, 2008, at 21:08:45
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Still 199.5 » Phillipa, posted by Dinah on January 8, 2008, at 21:07:22
Dinah,
I'm sorry I just can't do this.
MidnightBlue
Posted by Dinah on January 9, 2008, at 10:00:44
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Still 199.5, posted by MidnightBlue on January 8, 2008, at 21:08:45
(((Midnight)))
Do what you need to do to take care of yourself.
I think I'll go ahead and continue here, so if you want to join me at any point, that would be great. But if not, I understand.
Dr. Bob has a diary exception to the three post rule, and my therapist thinks it's good for my self awareness and choices to keep this up.
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 9, 2008, at 11:34:17
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Still 199.5 » MidnightBlue, posted by Dinah on January 9, 2008, at 10:00:44
Seven sips of cream soda. Oatmeal. Water.
MB
Posted by Dinah on January 9, 2008, at 22:20:21
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Still 199.5 » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on January 9, 2008, at 11:34:17
I didn't do so well today in eating. I'm not entirely sure why I had a "to h*ll with it" attitude today. Maybe it just looked like too big a task. Maybe I'll downgrade my expectations to ten pounds or twenty pounds.
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 9, 2008, at 22:25:16
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Still 199.5 » MidnightBlue, posted by Dinah on January 9, 2008, at 22:20:21
Just a week at a time Dinah. Don't think about big numbers at all and it doesn't really start until MONDAY. This week is just practice.
MB
Not saying the rest of what I ate it was not a normal day.
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 10, 2008, at 21:22:23
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Still 199.5 » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on January 9, 2008, at 22:25:16
Oatmeal, cottage cheese, almonds, prunes, chicken, cranbury sauce, peas, cornbread dressing, bread and butter, soda.
Posted by Dinah on January 12, 2008, at 15:28:38
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Still 199.5, posted by MidnightBlue on January 10, 2008, at 21:22:23
I haven't been very mindful the last couple of days, I'm afraid. I was working really hard and late for a meeting that was yesterday, then fell into a heap and slept, wiping everything from my mind.
Which is what my therapist was talking about, I guess. It's the act of writing down what you eat, of being mindful of what you put in your mouth, that is helpful. It's something I need to work on. :(
Oddly enough, my husband saw an article in the paper the other day about writing down everything you eat and how helpful that can be. So maybe fate is trying to tell me that I really need to do this.
I wish I wore pockets. Then I could carry a recorder or notebook and write things down as I eat. But I have almost no pockets in anything I wear.
Posted by Dinah on January 13, 2008, at 19:12:51
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Still 199.5 » MidnightBlue, posted by Dinah on January 12, 2008, at 15:28:38
Finally got back to mindfulness today.
peanut butter and simply fruit on white
turkey and cheese poboy made at home
about half a can of crushed pineapple in juice
kraft mac and cheeseI told you I could live on bread alone. :(
I ran out of all my prescriptions (except a recently dose changed Glucophage) Friday and they need to be called in for refills. So I'm trying to keep it very bland, since my ranitidine is out.
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 13, 2008, at 19:16:59
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Still 199.5, posted by Dinah on January 13, 2008, at 19:12:51
Hurt hand. Problems typing, etc. Not watching food at all....sigh....
MB
Posted by Dinah on January 14, 2008, at 8:50:40
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Still 199.5 » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on January 13, 2008, at 19:16:59
Which is what my mathematical calculations show. I'm on a weight maintaining diet at the moment.
Ok, so this week I'll try to put in the small changes I suggested to myself. I'll try to walk a bit each day. Make sure I eat on a regular basis, so I don't get overly hungry and binge. And try to drink a big glass of tea a half hour before meals.
hmmmm... And maybe not have the food on the table. I'll serve the food from the counter.
Let me see how that goes, and then assess where I can cut back without affecting my quality of life more than I can stand.
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 15, 2008, at 15:04:03
In reply to Still 199.5 » MidnightBlue, posted by Dinah on January 14, 2008, at 8:50:40
Lunch didn't work today. It tasted terrible so I've been snacking all afternoon.
MB
Posted by Dinah on January 15, 2008, at 21:57:00
In reply to Re: Still 199.5 » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on January 15, 2008, at 15:04:03
I binged today. I ate as if there wasn't enough food to make me full. I ate until I felt sick.
First day fulfilling my new plan of working in the office. It wasn't horrible or anything, but I'm thinking it's related somehow.
But I'm really not sure, because the whole day is blurry and I don't remember that much.
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 15, 2008, at 23:41:12
In reply to Re: Still 199.5 » MidnightBlue, posted by Dinah on January 15, 2008, at 21:57:00
Girl Scout Cookies
MB
Posted by Dinah on January 17, 2008, at 18:11:06
In reply to three words » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on January 15, 2008, at 23:41:12
I've been forgetting to eat again. I've been having headaches which make me feel not at all hungry. Then I guess I get sugar low, and after that overeat. Two days in a row I've taken glucose pills. The first time ever I've taken them.
Anyway, I really need to work on eating whether or not I'm hungry, at set times. Especially if I'm not going to be home. I think working at the office is part of the problem. I need to get new habits for working in the office.
I don't feel so great. :(
Posted by Phillipa on January 17, 2008, at 19:31:03
In reply to Re: three words, posted by Dinah on January 17, 2008, at 18:11:06
Dinah a reminder sheet and nuts, cheese, yougurt, hard boiled egg some examples. Who am I to talk just ate about l0 truffles. Phillipa
Posted by Dinah on January 17, 2008, at 21:15:45
In reply to Re: three words » Dinah, posted by Phillipa on January 17, 2008, at 19:31:03
I know. It's definitely a case of developing new habits. It's hard though. Even as I left work I wasn't hungry. I could have stopped and gotten something but I didn't even think about it. Then wham, it hit me when it was really too late to do anything about it for an hour or so.
I don't like working at the office. :(
Thanks, Phillipa.
Posted by Phillipa on January 17, 2008, at 23:40:38
In reply to Re: three words » Phillipa, posted by Dinah on January 17, 2008, at 21:15:45
Dinah can tell me to mind my own business but I remember when my blood sugar was so low and now could be again. As diabetes runs in my family. Love Phillipa
Posted by Dinah on January 18, 2008, at 9:01:48
In reply to Re: three words » Dinah, posted by Phillipa on January 17, 2008, at 23:40:38
I felt so bad for so long when I went into the office that I'm scared to go back. I don't have a migraine today. And I know the biggest part of the problem was not eating. But I'm still scared to go back.
Posted by Deneb on January 19, 2008, at 2:36:05
In reply to I'm scared to go in, posted by Dinah on January 18, 2008, at 9:01:48
One of the things that prevent weight loss is that people underestimate the size of their portions. Make sure to measure everything. Invest in a good electronic food balance. Weigh that peanut butter on your sandwich, it's more accurate than a tablespoon. Peanut butter adds up very quickly.
Weigh every chip, count every cracker, breath mint, piece of fruit (some pieces of fruit are bigger than others) everything. Small snacks add up quickly. When you eat a salad, go for the reduced calorie dressings, and still measure it out! Dressings are killers in terms of calories. Weigh that piece of meat and remember a serving is only the size of a deck of cards.
Spreads, dressings, oils, drinks have to measure these! They are very easy to overeat!
I used to weigh everything, even salad greens, but now I'm not as obsessed anymore. Salad without dressing has neligible calories. Just count salad greens as 20 kcal to be safe.
Weighing and measuring everything and then looking online to calculate their calories is time consuming. Right now I just started on a meal replacement shake plan so I don't have to count so much. I'll only measure/weigh/count one meal instead of 3.
Oh and another big tip...don't eat out unless you absolutely have too! Fast food and restaurant food are a killers in terms of calories. Most people grossly underestimate their calorie counts when eating out. When in doubt, overestimate!! Say you order some fries, if it's a small portion I would estimate 400 kcal. If it's a big portion, estimate high, like 900 kcal. It's probably pretty close. I would rather estimate high than low!
Your best bet in eating out is to look up the calorie counts of the food before hand, online. Most fast food places have nutritional info. Then you can be sure of how many calories you are eating. Be aware though, sometimes they give you the calorie count for 2T of mayo, but your sandwich/burger maker will probably put a lot more than that on your sandwich/burger. When in doubt, overestimate! Assume you were given 4 tablespoons.
Take home message, calories add up fast! Portions are smaller than you think. When in doubt, overestimate! Your "overestimation" is probably correct!
Posted by Dinah on January 19, 2008, at 9:14:28
In reply to Re: Diet tips, posted by Deneb on January 19, 2008, at 2:36:05
I think, and I'm quite serious about his, not joking, that I'd rather die than live like that.
Life just isn't so hot as it is.
Plus, I think that some of my main problems come from not eating, with my diabetes. Then I feel horrible and overeat. So I think what I need to remember to do is to eat regularly so that I don't get to feeling horrible.
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 19, 2008, at 12:03:29
In reply to Re: Diet tips, posted by Dinah on January 19, 2008, at 9:14:28
Dinah,
I so get where you are coming from. I'm still trying to get into the counting/writing down mode. Still a lot of hand pain and that limits my ability to type or take on the extra stress of carefully watching what I eat.
MB
Posted by Deneb on January 19, 2008, at 13:19:28
In reply to Re: Diet tips, posted by Dinah on January 19, 2008, at 9:14:28
Yeah, it makes eating very complicated. I say do all those things, but I've only done those things for 2 months and then stopped. My electronic balance is crappy and takes really expensive batteries that die really quickly. LOL
I'm probably not the best person to go for diet advice, I haven't lost anything. Although, when I was doing all that measuring, I did lose weight consistently.
Maybe do the measuring stuff for a while, like one month so you can learn how to guesstimate. After that just guessitmate your servings. I find the measuring stuff is a real eye opener.
I just prefer obsessively measuring everything, but I think there are other methods. I've heard of the portion control method, where you learn what a portion is by comparing food to a deck of cards, a tennis ball, etc.
I've found that Weight Watchers really works. You just have to make sure to count points. If you don't want to pay tons of money, I suggest you pay for the membership and for one meeting, get all the info and materials you need to start and then do it on your own. You can pay for other meetings to get more help.
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