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Posted by PTSD_Girl on September 5, 2004, at 22:11:41
What does God say about suicide? Does anyone know? I think that if you've accepted Christ and have become a child of God, that suicide does not invalidate that. God will never forsake us.....he loves His children. I do not think that suicide will cancel out our relationship with God. I think we would still go to Heaven.
PTSD_Girl
Posted by verne on September 5, 2004, at 22:33:02
In reply to Suicide, posted by PTSD_Girl on September 5, 2004, at 22:11:41
"nothing separates us from the love of God".
But please hang in there. I was acutely suicidal for years and nobody who knew me expected me to live long, but through no effort of my own I managed to survive and now I'm less depressed than I've been in 20 years.
My body chemistry seemed to change as I got older (now 53) so never give up.
Verne
Posted by Jai Narayan on September 5, 2004, at 23:06:44
In reply to Re: Suicide, posted by verne on September 5, 2004, at 22:33:02
Who can know what God thinks?
Does God think?
I really don't know.
But suicide is such a hard thing.
I too was suicidal.
I lived through it...I have no idea how either.
We are kin.
What to say to others that are caught in the pain of now.....I really just don't know.
Posted by Cass on September 5, 2004, at 23:37:06
In reply to Hey Verne,I like your response..., posted by Jai Narayan on September 5, 2004, at 23:06:44
I'm so sorry for your pain, PTSD_girl. I don't believe that God condemns someone for suffering, or wanting to escape that suffering. But remember, things will eventually get better. You wouldn't believe the changes that have occured in my life. I used to be extremely depressed most of the time. Now I feel loved, fulfilled and happy most of the time.
Amazing changes happen in life.
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2004, at 12:47:37
In reply to Suicide, posted by PTSD_Girl on September 5, 2004, at 22:11:41
PTSD_Girl,
You wrote,[...does anyone know what God says about suicide?...].
I do know what God has revealed to me about suicide. This may be different from popular teachings.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2004, at 12:52:44
In reply to Lou's reply to PTSD_Girl » PTSD_Girl, posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2004, at 12:47:37
PTSD_Girl,
I first learned about what God has revealed to me about suicide first hand. You see, I have BPD and I had gone into the depth of a great BPD depression and was at that Gate.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2004, at 12:59:57
In reply to Lou's reply to PTSD_Girl-2 » Lou Pilder, posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2004, at 12:52:44
PTSD_girl,
While I was at that Gate, there was a promter that was advocating a choice of methods and means to go through that Gate. Perhaps a gun? Pills to overdose on? Now you know that I did not accept the offer for I am writing to you my experiance.
BTW, before I continue , is there some significance to the name, PTSD?
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2004, at 13:16:06
In reply to Lou's reply to PTSD_Girl-3 » Lou Pilder, posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2004, at 12:59:57
PTSD_Girl,
I was confronted by the prompter that made me think that there was no choice and the only choice was the means.
The promter promised me reliefe if I was to take my own life. The promter also made me belive that suicide was the only option that I had..
I was in a city at this time and a parade was passing by led by a Rider on a White Horse. I was going to get a gun, 38 calibre, to do what the prompter said. Then I heard a voice come from the parade. The voice said, "To him that overcomes, I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God." "Be faithfull to death, and I will give you the Crown of Life."
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2004, at 13:26:03
In reply to Lou's reply to PTSD_Girl-4 » Lou Pilder, posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2004, at 13:16:06
PTSD_Girl,
I saw the Rider on the White Horse wave at me. He acted as if He knew me personally and was glad to see me. The smile on His face lifted me up. I went home.
There was a knock on my door.
Lou
Posted by PTSD_Girl on September 6, 2004, at 15:11:57
In reply to Lou's reply to PTSD_Girl-5 » Lou Pilder, posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2004, at 13:26:03
And who was knocking?
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2004, at 15:40:29
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to PTSD_Girl-5 » Lou Pilder, posted by PTSD_Girl on September 6, 2004, at 15:11:57
PTSD,
What does PTSD stand for?
Lou
Posted by PTSD_Girl on September 6, 2004, at 15:41:19
In reply to Re: Suicide, posted by verne on September 5, 2004, at 22:33:02
>My body chemistry seemed to change as I got older (now 53) so never give up.
>
> Verne<My body chemistry is changing too....making me suicidal. *shrug*
I think it's just a bad time of the year right now for me.
I'm glad you made it, Verne.
PTSD_Girl
Posted by PTSD_Girl on September 6, 2004, at 15:43:23
In reply to Re: Hey Verne,I like your response..., posted by Cass on September 5, 2004, at 23:37:06
>I used to be extremely depressed most of the time. Now I feel loved, fulfilled and happy most of the time.
> Amazing changes happen in life. <You have reached a wonderful place in your life, Cass. I'm happy for you. ((HUGS))
PTSD_Girl
Posted by PTSD_Girl on September 6, 2004, at 15:46:00
In reply to Lou's reply to PTSD_Girl-3 » Lou Pilder, posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2004, at 12:59:57
> BTW, before I continue , is there some significance to the name, PTSD?
> Lou<I've been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. No biggie. That's not what is causing my thoughts, though. I hope you are doing well today. ((Lou))
PTSD_Girl
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2004, at 15:49:56
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to PTSD_Girl-3 » Lou Pilder, posted by PTSD_Girl on September 6, 2004, at 15:46:00
PTSD,
Thanks for clearing that up. I thought it had something to do with something like that, I just didn't fit the letters together right away.
I hope that yopu are out from the dark part of that and are moving away from the effects of whatever induced it.
Lou
Posted by PTSD_Girl on September 6, 2004, at 16:15:39
In reply to Lou's reply to PTSD_Girl-3b » PTSD_Girl, posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2004, at 15:49:56
I think it's in our human nature not to want to burden others with our problems. You have enough to deal with on your own.
Who was knocking?
PTSD_Girl
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2004, at 16:29:11
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to PTSD_Girl-3b » Lou Pilder, posted by PTSD_Girl on September 6, 2004, at 16:15:39
PTSD_Girl,
I opened the door and it was a friend of mine that was concerned about me. I had been reclused for weeks in great depression and did not call anyone.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 6, 2004, at 19:38:33
In reply to Suicide, posted by PTSD_Girl on September 5, 2004, at 22:11:41
> What does God say about suicide? Does anyone know? I think that if you've accepted Christ and have become a child of God, that suicide does not invalidate that. God will never forsake us.....he loves His children. I do not think that suicide will cancel out our relationship with God. I think we would still go to Heaven.
>
> PTSD_GirlPTSD_ Girl,
I just re-read your post that innitiated this thread and now I am confronted with a problem with continueing to post what has been revealed to me about suicide and wish that you could contact me at, if you wish,:
lpilder_1188@fuse.net
Lou
>
Posted by PTSD_Girl on September 7, 2004, at 7:12:10
In reply to Re: Suicide, posted by verne on September 5, 2004, at 22:33:02
So, what do you all think is the punishment for taking your own life? Because God is a just God, I can't believe that we can destroy the gift He has given us without some sort of repercussions. I still don't think we would lose our relationship with our Father, but maybe I'm horribly wrong.
I believe the Bible says that we "earn" crowns for different actions on our part here in this world. Maybe God's punishment for suicide is to withdraw some crowns? Maybe I would live on the outskirts of town instead of with everyone else!! *laugh* Seriously, though, I think that maybe the result of killing one's own body is a lose of certain privledges??
Any ideas on this?
PTSD_Girl
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 7, 2004, at 17:57:55
In reply to Re: Suicide, posted by PTSD_Girl on September 7, 2004, at 7:12:10
PTSD,
You wrote, [....any ideas about this?...].
In my faith experiance, I was visited by a Rider on White Horse. There was a discussion and He said to me, "I have set this day before you.This day could have life or death, or good or evil. Choose life and both you and your children will live and you will be blessed in the land wherever you go."
Lou
Posted by rayww on September 8, 2004, at 11:11:03
In reply to Suicide, posted by PTSD_Girl on September 5, 2004, at 22:11:41
People of my faith believe this is what God has to say about suicide:
http://www.providentliving.org/ses/media/articles/0,11275,2875-1---71,00.htmland also what God has to say about life:
http://scriptures.lds.org/query?words=%22this+life+is+the+time%22&scripturesearch_button=SearchI think you are correct when you say:
"I think that if you've accepted Christ and have become a child of God, that suicide does not invalidate that. God will never forsake us.....he loves His children. I do not think that suicide will cancel out our relationship with God. I think we would still go to Heaven."
I (rayww) might add, perhaps not as soon as a person like the one you described, who hadn't chosen to end their own life, but likely eventually.Grit your teeth and say to yourself, "I haven't done it yet, and I haven't done it yet, and I haven't done it yet, and so on. Each time you can say that becomes a little victory, whether in reference to suicide or any other temptation or addiction. Having victory makes us feel better about ourselves until we are able to move on to a more stable thought or activity.
In the first reference is a story of a prominent church leader whose father committed suicide. Not until this other man experienced hypothyroidism himself was he able to understand why his father may have done what seemed so out of character for him. There are reasons, not all of which we are accoutable for, yet we are still responsible to get help and take appropriate care of our own physical/mental/social/emotional health as best we can.
May the God you believe in bless you, and nurture you, and encircle you in the arms of His love right now, as you sit at your computer reading this, in the here and now, present state reality on earth today, is my prayer for you and all others who might be struggling. People of my faith believe the answer to all questions and problems can be found somewhere in scripture. http://scriptures.lds.org/ing/gdlvf?sr=1
Posted by rayww on September 8, 2004, at 12:58:15
In reply to Suicide, posted by PTSD_Girl on September 5, 2004, at 22:11:41
PTSD_girl, I thought this might be of interest to a person who believes as you do about being a child of God, has faith in Christ, and who is asking questions about suicide. It is (part of) one of the links in my first response to your question.
Questions and Answers on Suicide
Sometimes I feel so hopeless I want to end my life. What stops me is the fear of hurting my family and being punished in the next life. Shouldn’t there be a better reason to live?
New Era Answer:
Please, before you do anything else, before you even finish reading this answer, TELL SOME TRUSTED ADULT ABOUT YOUR PROBLEM. Tell your parents. Tell your (church leader). Tell a counselor at school. Call the suicide hot line. If these people can’t help you themselves, they will put you in touch with someone who can. Please don’t feel that it’s demeaning to ask for help. At some point in our lives almost all of us find that our coping mechanisms are temporarily overwhelmed by circumstance and that we need outside help. A multitude of intelligent, successful, and respected people have sought such help and have benefited from it. If your life were in danger from fire or poison, you would quickly call for assistance. When your life is threatened by suicidal thoughts, you can’t afford to do less.
The problem with answering your question is that while you’re feeling suicidal, the answer may not mean much. Your condition won’t let it. You wouldn’t be thinking this seriously about suicide unless you were temporarily suffering from a serious emotional or chemical imbalance or both. These conditions make it difficult to have a balanced perspective of life. They filter out the bright and hopeful truths and let in only the dark and sad.
Nevertheless, here goes. What is there to live for? Everything! Sunrise and sunset, laughter, music, learning, good friends, good books, good times. There is courtship, marriage, family. There are growth and achievement. There is service and sharing and joy. There is the wonderful adventure of becoming who you are here to become. There is all this and more.
If you just read that list and saw nothing but dust and ashes, don’t lose hope. You are not alone. Many are facing this problem and are overcoming it with the help of those who care about them.
Having said that, here are a couple of practical considerations. As you already seem to realize, suicide is not really an escape at all. The person who ends his life in hopes of oblivion will be astonished to learn that suicide has only made a bad situation that much worse.
Also, many impulsive suicide attempts result not in death but in severe physical and mental handicaps that must be faced throughout a long lifetime of regret.
Please understand that no one is questioning your pain. It is very real. Perhaps you have been abused. Perhaps you have lost a loved one to death. Maybe you feel you’re a failure because you got a low grade or didn’t make an athletic team. Maybe your “one true love” dropped you for somebody else. Perhaps you have a handicap and are excluded by those who should be supporting you. Maybe a hormonal imbalance has cast you into a deep depression. All these things and many others can temporarily make life seem a burden.
But life is constantly changing. Hang on, seek help, and in a few days or weeks or months, you will look around and discover that things are better. If this started with some unhappy event in your life, remember that millions before you have dealt with their grief, have overcome their handicaps, have gone on to find new goals, new friends, new sweethearts, and to live happy, productive lives.
If you are suffering from depression brought about by a chemical imbalance, there are medicines that can end your depression and let the light shine into your life again.
One way or another things will get better. It may take some time and some effort, but whatever the ache, whatever the sorrow, whatever the hurt, whatever the problem—it really can get better. Why should you end your life just when things are about to improve?
Achieving this improvement is definitely not a do-it-yourself project; you will need the help of qualified adults. Still, there are many things you can do to help yourself, and each is a better option than suicide. Here are just a few:
1. Remember who you are. If someone is putting you down or abusing you or making you feel bad, remember that first, last, and always—and in spite of anybody and anything—you are in fact a child of God.
2. Pray. And if you feel that things are so bad that not even prayer will help—then “experiment … and exercise a particle of faith … [and] let this desire work in you” Prayer really can help—if you’ll give it a fair try.
3. Talk to somebody. It helps. When things get bad it helps a lot.
(People of my faith believe:)
4. Reading the scriptures will help. (Start with the Sermon on the Mount, Matthew 5-7.) Repenting of your sins and shortcomings will help. And, having repented, learn to forgive yourself. The Savior atoned for your sins, and it is unwise and unhealthy to condemn yourself for weaknesses you are truly striving to overcome.5. Serve others. Volunteer at the hospital. Donate some time at the library. Teach retarded children to swim. Help a struggling young mother clean up her kitchen. As difficult as it will be to get started, service to others will help you feel better about yourself.
6. Remember that Satan is in a jealous rage because you have a body while he doesn’t. He would love to see you discard your life and your body. When Satan tempts you to end your life, talk to your Father in Heaven about it—right out loud if you want. Plead for his help. Don’t worry too much about the four steps of prayer, just TALK to him. Pray all day long if you need to. He will never grow tired of listening.
7. Don’t allow yourself to be alone and depressed. Call an adult you respect on the telephone. Listen to uplifting music. Start a hobby or collection. Make a new friend. Take your little brother to the gym and shoot some baskets.
8. Work on physical fitness. Go jogging. Go swimming. Go swat some tennis balls. Go for a hike. When you are physically fit, all the rest of you—your mind and spirit and emotions—will feel better, too. (Some medical research even suggests that aerobic exercise stimulates release of a natural antidepressant.)
9. If all else fails, postpone it. Don’t do it now. Wait until tomorrow, or next week. Chances are very good that when you get to tomorrow or next week, things will have changed enough that you won’t want to do it.
And if things still look bad, then postpone it again. It’s wrong. You know it’s wrong. You know it would only make matters worse. Postpone it some more. Take positive steps to make things better. Postpone it until things really do start getting better. Then forget it.
Someday you’ll look back and think about this difficult time and be really grateful that the Younger You stuck it out so that the Older You could lead a happy, satisfying life. You’ll be glad you took positive steps to make things better.
And things will get better. That’s a promise.
Youth Answers:
I think I know how you feel. I have many times felt like killing myself and even tried once, which I regret to this day. It was miserable physically as well as emotionally, and I found out that dying wasn’t at all what I was looking for. I just wanted the pain to stop. Even though I still feel like killing myself at times, I have found that receiving professional help and meeting with a member of the bishopric (or even a close friend as long as he or she doesn’t join in feeling sorry for me) make things easier. You also need to start looking at your good qualities. Whenever you feel like killing yourself, take out a piece of paper and write down ten of your good qualities.
As for a reason for continuing to live, I have found that it helps to think that if you died that you would be letting yourself down—you would never know who you would marry, who your future friends would be, or if you could have licked your problems.
To keep your mind off feeling depressed, get involved in a fun activity.
Most of all, you have to remind yourself that you can do anything you set your mind to. This may seem like a bunch of wishful thinking, but I know from experience that it works—believe me, if it didn’t, you wouldn’t be reading this letter right now.
Name withheld(People of my faith believe:)
Remember that your Heavenly Father loves you and wants you to return to him. He wants to help you. He’s there for you if you’ll just ask. You were sent to earth with a divine mission. You promised that you would fulfill that mission and return to your father’s open arms. Always remember that life is only a second compared to eternity.
xxxxxxxx, 15
El Paso, TexasThere are many reasons to live. I, too, at one point in my life felt much like you do and could find no reason to go on. Most people didn’t seem to understand the depth of the pain and hopelessness that I was feeling. Some told me to forget myself and my problems and try to serve others. Others simply told me to smile and try to have a positive attitude. While this can be very beneficial at some point, it couldn’t help me when I was hopeless and hurting enough to end my own life.
I have a few suggestions that helped me and might help you.
First, it’s important to look at yourself, your thoughts, and your feelings. Why are you hurting so much? What’s happening in your life that is causing these destructive thoughts? What can you do about it? It’s important to take a serious look at yourself and what has gone wrong, then answer these questions honestly.
Second, it would be ideal if you have access to a counselor, psychologist, or social worker who could work with you. Many schools provide these services.
Also, find a responsible and trustworthy adult to talk to. It needs to be somebody you feel comfortable talking to openly and who will be understanding. It may be a teacher, a parent, an older brother or sister, a grandparent, a Young Women or Young Men adviser, or your bishop. They really care about you and want to help.
Fourth, sit down and make a list of everything you’re good at, as well as everything that’s important to you. Keep in mind that being a good listener or being able to love and accept people are talents that are just as noble (perhaps even more so) as being able to play the piano or run in track.
Fifth, don’t feel that you’re going crazy, that you’re all alone, or that you’re bad. I felt that way, but I shouldn’t have. Being sad or hurt and having everything “fall apart” doesn’t make you an awful or “sick” person. It simply means that you’re human, you’re having problems, and you need a boost. Many people feel a lot like you do, although the circumstances are different.
Finally, and most importantly, (people of my faith believe) you are a literal child of God. He’s your Father and he created you—in his own image. He loves you far more than you can presently understand. He sees all the infinite beauty in you that nobody else can see. It’s there. He hurts when you hurt, and he wants to help you succeed. Go to him in prayer and ask for strength and the ability to see your worth. Gain a testimony of his love for you. I promise you that as you do these things, your eyes will be opened to the millions of beautiful reasons to go on living. I know because I found them not too long ago.
Name withheldI felt the same way for six years and even now the feeling sometimes comes back vaguely. It’s a lonely and self-centered feeling, and service seems to be the only key, but it isn’t always the first key. I suffer from a chemical imbalance, and service was an impossible task before I became aware of my illness. So for six years I struggled to live day by day before receiving proper medical treatment.
Cling to gospel principles. Study and pray continually. Know that Christ died for you and that he loves you infinitely. These things never took away the terror or loneliness I experienced, but they carried me through those horrible times, so that now I can look back and say, “I’m alive, and although those times were horrible, I did all I could.” My character has grown because of those experiences, because I lived to feel the joy of life.
Through all the pain, be positive and love others, for love is our purpose. Life is a joy to me now and suicide would’ve only taken that joy away.
Name withheld
When I begin thinking about how awful life is or how awful I think I am, I try to think instead of others and what I can do to make their lives a little better. When I do this, I can see the growth in myself and know that I have improved. That, for me, is a great reason to live.
xxxxxxxx, 16
Shelley, IdahoLast February my cousin, who was a very bright, intelligent, and fun high school junior, committed suicide. I was so terrified, confused, upset, and sorrowful that for weeks I walked around idly not knowing what to do with myself.
My cousin dwelt on her problems and didn’t communicate to anyone what was really disturbing her. As a result, those terrible thoughts and emotions could not be cleansed from her system. She didn’t give anyone the chance to hear, care, or help. I miss her now, and what hurts the most is that I couldn’t do anything to help her or save her.
If my cousin had taken her confusion and pain to someone that loved, understood, and cared about her, maybe she would be here today.
Do anything and everything you can to feel the Lord’s presence and love. I’m sure that when you feel that presence, you will be determined to fulfill your mission here on earth rather than end your potential quest which God has planned for you.
xxxxxxxxxx, 16
Vienna, Virginia
We all feel depressed at times because life isn’t always easy, but God has given us the power to rise above our problems. You must not end your life prematurely, because Heavenly Father has so much in store for you. Satan doesn’t want you to have these things so he tries to make you so miserable that death seems to be the only way out, but he is wrong! Don’t let him win!Try talking to someone you trust about your feelings and they won’t seem quite so overwhelming. Heavenly Father will help, too. Always remember that he loves you immeasurably and unconditionally and wants nothing more than to see you succeed. Your family, friends, and loved ones are cheering for you, too!
xxxxxxxx, 17
Rifle, Colorado
There are many beautiful reasons to live. I’ll just mention one—the love that our Savior, Jesus Christ, has for you. Christ suffered for each soul, individually. If Christ, a perfect man, a God, with power over death, would give his life for you and your individual happiness, you have reason to live. Look deep enough and pray, and you’ll feel this love.There is always a way to find happiness, even when life seems to be at its darkest. To me personally, happiness comes through love. To receive love, you give love—unselfishly.
Don’t give up. You can overcome. Live life to its fullest. Look at the positive things instead of seeing the negative. In the gospel of Jesus Christ, all you’ll find is positive.
xxxxxxxxx, 19
Brigham City, Utah
Please don’t consider suicide. Two months ago, my best friend killed herself. I cannot even begin to tell you the pain this has caused her family and her friends. My life will never be the same. I loved her with all my heart. Until you find out your own true worth, you might have to live for your family. There is a reason for you to be here, and someday God will prove that to you.
Name withheld
Your question brought tears to my eyes because I am in the same situation. Before, it was hard to believe that others feel the way I do about committing suicide.I’m so depressed, but I’m trying to control it day by day. Some of the things I’m doing may help you.
First of all, try not to be so hard on yourself. Think of positive things about yourself.
Second, pray to your Father in Heaven so that he might help you to see the good in yourself.
Finally, find something you especially enjoy doing. It helps to build your self-esteem. A few examples are exercising, reading, drawing, or anything! It depends on you. I hope these ideas will help.
Name withheld
Yes, there is a reason for living. Just think what is ahead of you. Realize that today is a trial you have to overcome to grow. God loves you and wants only what is best for you.
xxxxxxxxxx, 15
St. George, Utah
Everyone has bad days, but since you are having a real problem in your life, talk to your parents, your bishop, or a doctor. There may be something you need to change, or you may have a chemical imbalance that would cause you to feel unhappy, even when you can’t see any reason.Sometimes depression is psychological, but many times it is a physical deficiency of certain chemicals in your brain; new prescription drugs can help this. Try to figure out what’s causing you to feel this way. In my case, I was stressed out and I needed to cut some things out of my life.
Build your relationships with your parents, your brothers and sisters, your friends, but, most importantly, with your Heavenly Father and Christ. Just remember, “I am of infinite worth. My Savior loves me.”
Posted by PTSD_Girl on September 8, 2004, at 21:35:59
In reply to Re: Suicide 2 » PTSD_Girl, posted by rayww on September 8, 2004, at 12:58:15
Thank you so much for going to the effort of sending all these articles. That means a lot to me. Thank you for thinking of me.
I have been thinking that maybe I should walk over to the church in my neighborhood and speak with the pastor. Or call and have him visit me. When I was committed after I attempted suicide, I had thought of asking for a visit from a hospital minister.....but I was in crisis at the time, and really not thinking very clearly.
I like how one of the messages in your post mentioned to keep postponing it. Put it off for another day and then another day. That's difficult, you know? But that's what I've been trying to do. It was just humbling to see that others do that as well. I wish no one had to suffer.
I know God loves me. He knew what my life would be before He even created me. I am His child, and He feels for my pain. I pray He will be happy to see me when I finally come Home. But I have lost the ability to pray now. I just can't seem to talk with Him anymore. I just don't have the strength to do that. But I know He is with me. He will never leave me. I am His child, for eternity. But I don't want to throw His gift of life to me in His face. He treasured me enough to allow for my existence. He gave me this life! Who am I to throw that gift away?? But I don't know what else to do. But I'm trying. Maybe I will call that church tomorrow. Because I really don't know how many tomorrows I have left. I am blessed, though, in that I have a couple of friends in emergency services who said they will come to me at any time if I call them....and I've already let them know that I'm feeling somewhat unstable. But maybe I should call that church. I need to feel God's presence again.
Thank you for your posts. ((HUGS))
PTSD_Girl
Posted by PTSD_Girl on September 8, 2004, at 21:41:56
In reply to Re: Suicide 2 » PTSD_Girl, posted by rayww on September 8, 2004, at 12:58:15
If I speak with a minister, do you know if that is confidential? He wouldn't turn around and have me sent to the hospital, right? I'm not sure if a pastor would have much experience with someone coming in off the street and wanting to talk about suicide and God. I wonder if he would freak out and call someone?? It's not like I'm walking around with a razor blade in my pocket.
Has anyone ever walked into a church and spoken with a pastor about suicide and God?
PTSD_Girl
Posted by rayww on September 8, 2004, at 22:59:58
In reply to A Question » rayww, posted by PTSD_Girl on September 8, 2004, at 21:41:56
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