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Lar, get better? How long does it take, etc.

Posted by McPac on October 10, 2003, at 9:14:44

In reply to Re: Anyone get better? How long does it take, etc. » Wolf Dreamer, posted by Larry Hoover on October 9, 2003, at 8:58:48

"Just for the record, gluten alone can cause obsessive thinking."

Lar, do you have any links that talk about this?
Thanks!

 

Re: Lar, get better? How long does it take, etc. » McPac

Posted by Larry Hoover on October 10, 2003, at 10:10:45

In reply to Lar, get better? How long does it take, etc., posted by McPac on October 10, 2003, at 9:14:44

> "Just for the record, gluten alone can cause obsessive thinking."
>
> Lar, do you have any links that talk about this?
> Thanks!

It's one of the symptoms of so-called positive symptom schizophrenia, and some cases of schizophrenia are clearly *caused* (yes, I know, cause is a rather uncommon word for me to use, but the link is so robust, I'm going to use it here) by gluten exposure.

I don't have a link to offer you, at the moment. I'm just getting a new computer up, and it's not fully operational yet.

Lar

 

Re: Zapper? » McPac

Posted by Larry Hoover on October 10, 2003, at 10:16:13

In reply to Lar, get better? How long does it take, etc., posted by McPac on October 9, 2003, at 17:10:36

> Lar,
>
> what do you make of these "Zappers"---do these things really work or is this quackery?

I don't know anything about them. Anybody got a good link to a product or description?

I can tell you this....if they're supposed to work by the production of some sort of energy field, one of the primary rules of physics is that the field intensity varies as the square of the distance from the source. So, let's say the Zapper has a field intensity of one unit at a distance of one centimeter (about 0.4 inches). To have the same field intensity at 2 cm, the source would have to four times as intense (2 squared). At 3 cm, 9 times as intense, and so on.

I can't quite picture how you would apply the field uniformly and thoroughly, in all parts of the digestive tract. Moreover, I cannot conceive of a device which will kill e.g. yeast, but not disrupt your own cells.

I'm speculating, but I'm thinking quack quack. Links, anyone?

Lar

 

Re: Zapper? » Larry Hoover

Posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 10, 2003, at 10:19:56

In reply to Re: Zapper? » McPac, posted by Larry Hoover on October 10, 2003, at 10:16:13

I already gave a link.

www.zapperplans.com

There you can see how to make one yourself, or buy one for $10. He has links to sites that champion the cause, and those that cast doubt upon it, or more specifically, certain people who champion it.

The energy channels through your entire body. Copper rod in each hand, it cycles through you. When I get mine from him in the mail, I'll post if it worked or not.

 

Re: Zapper? » Wolf Dreamer

Posted by Larry Hoover on October 10, 2003, at 10:35:47

In reply to Re: Zapper? » Larry Hoover, posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 10, 2003, at 10:19:56

> I already gave a link.
>
> www.zapperplans.com

Sorry. Missed it.
>
> There you can see how to make one yourself, or buy one for $10. He has links to sites that champion the cause, and those that cast doubt upon it, or more specifically, certain people who champion it.
>
> The energy channels through your entire body. Copper rod in each hand, it cycles through you. When I get mine from him in the mail, I'll post if it worked or not.

The Federal Trade Commission is taking legal action to block the sale of these devices, and to prevent transmission of information about them.

Good luck.

Lar

 

Re: Zapper? » Wolf Dreamer

Posted by Larry Hoover on October 10, 2003, at 12:12:02

In reply to Re: Zapper? » Larry Hoover, posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 10, 2003, at 10:19:56

> I already gave a link.
>
> www.zapperplans.com
>
> There you can see how to make one yourself, or buy one for $10. He has links to sites that champion the cause, and those that cast doubt upon it, or more specifically, certain people who champion it.
>
> The energy channels through your entire body. Copper rod in each hand, it cycles through you. When I get mine from him in the mail, I'll post if it worked or not.

Fine. Here's the Quackwatch report:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/clark.html

...and, a copy of the actual complaint filed against Dr. (sic) Clark, by the Federal Trade Commission:

http://www.quackwatch.org/02ConsumerProtection/FTCActions/clarkcomplaint.html

By the way, I'd be interested in any explanation of just how it is that direct current has any sort of frequency associated with it.

Lar

 

Re: Zapper? (more) » Wolf Dreamer

Posted by Larry Hoover on October 10, 2003, at 12:22:41

In reply to Re: Zapper? » Larry Hoover, posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 10, 2003, at 10:19:56

> I already gave a link.
>
> www.zapperplans.com

This is an extract from an existing judgment prohibiting the sale of the Zapper in the United States. The unfortunate thing is that the judgment only applies to the specified persons and corporate entities charged. I'd assume that whoever sold you the unit/plans is next.

PROHIBITED REPRESENTATIONS
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED, in connection with the advertising, offering for sale or sale of the Zapper electrical unit or any other covered product or service, that defendants and their successors, assigns, officers, agents, servants, employees, attorneys and those persons or entities in active concert or participation with them who receive actual notice of this Order by personal service or otherwise—whether acting directly or through any corporation, subsidiary, division or other device—are hereby permanently restrained and enjoined from misrepresenting that use of any such product in the treatment of cancer makes surgery or chemotherapy unnecessary.


II. IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, in connection with the advertising, offering for sale or sale of the Zapper electrical unit or any other covered product or service, that defendants and their officers, agents, directors, employees, salespersons, independent contractors, attorneys, subsidiaries, affiliates, successors, assigns and all other persons or entities in active concert or participation with them who receive actual notice of this Order by personal service or otherwise, whether acting directly or through any corporation, subsidiary, division or other device, are hereby permanently restrained and enjoined from making any express or implied representation concerning the health benefits, performance, safety, or efficacy of any such product or service, unless, at the time the representation is first made, defendants possess and rely upon competent and reliable scientific evidence. “Competent and reliable scientific evidence” shall mean tests, analyses, research, studies or other evidence based on the expertise of professionals in the relevant area, that have been conducted and evaluated in an objective manner by persons qualified to do so, using procedures generally accepted in the profession to yield accurate and reliable results.

 

Re: Zapper? (more) » Larry Hoover

Posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 10, 2003, at 19:52:47

In reply to Re: Zapper? (more) » Wolf Dreamer, posted by Larry Hoover on October 10, 2003, at 12:22:41

There are many types of zappers out there, not all of them will work as well as others.

As I said when I first mentioned them, it should be easy enough for scientist to prove or disprove. Put the diseases, parasites, or fungus under a microscope, expose them to electromagnetic energy of the proper frequency, and see if they die.

Did you read anything about Dr. Price and his remarkable achievements decades ago? It is odd that so many that supported his findings at first changed their minds later on, or died with their research destroyed.

Anyway, one crazed woman who decided to cash in big time from this is irrelevant. If it does work, and is cheap to make, then what? Not a lot of money to be made from it. So they'd also profit from other things, and overcharge people for actual visits to a clinic perhaps.

Some people use a zapper, some use a magnetic pulser...

The sucess stories I read posted here and there usually involved someone suddenly running to the toliet, or not quite making it, with worms flying out of their butts. Not really the most pleasant of reading. I don't think they could all be made up, since not all of them link to any product they use. I'm hopeful but a bit skeptical.

If conspiracies about fluoride, mercury and nickel tooth fillings, and other horrors have been proven true, perhaps this oppressed technology might work also.

 

Re: Zapper? (more)

Posted by tealady on October 10, 2003, at 22:27:28

In reply to Re: Zapper? (more) » Larry Hoover, posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 10, 2003, at 19:52:47

Wolf, IMO it's a scam..and even IF it could work..would you want it to?
I mean how is this this going to differeniate between good and bad bacteria? If it could work it would have to kill you just as easily as it killed the bad bacteria, wouldn't it?
I really don't think there is any "proper frequency of electromagnetic energy".....especially one that is reserved just for bad bacteria etc to respond to.
Good luck and take care,
Jan

 

Re: Zapper?

Posted by glenn on October 12, 2003, at 3:45:44

In reply to Re: Zapper? » McPac, posted by Larry Hoover on October 10, 2003, at 10:16:13

If this is the Hulda Clark inspired machine then sadly it is probably rather limited, she is the author of books such as " The Cure For All Cancers" and I beleive now practices in Mexico.
I am ok with the idea that we may well harbour parasites without which we might all feel better, however her comment about depression was something like " I have never seen a patient with depression who did not have hookworms in their brains"
Right Hulda , so you managed to get a slice of all their brains and analyse them thoroughly!
Her ideas are discussed a lot on

www.curezone.com

The simple herbal alternative is to try wormwood, cloves and black walnut, try

http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/mall/how_to_use_herbs_to_deworm.asp

Ithink the idea of some form of electrical assitance apart from ect or rtms is interesting but claims seem easy to make, evidence more difficult to find.

Glenn

ps I am going to deworm, why not, might be interesting and if it helps imho increased energy would be a worthwhile payback!

 

Re: Zapper? (more)

Posted by TonyIreland on October 15, 2003, at 17:47:11

In reply to Re: Zapper? (more), posted by tealady on October 10, 2003, at 22:27:28

I find it alarming why people say it's a scam - dont listen to these people. And dont listen to the people say yeah zappers definetly work.

I have used the zapper as I had very bad stomach problems for 8 years - 2 months after using zapper - my problems were gone and have never came back - do i believe in it? Absolutely. Does it work for everyone? I dont know.

Beware of that quackery site - as it itself its full of rubbish too!! Dr Huldha Clark who promotes the zapper was banned in the usa and thats it - she is world wide recognised for her contributions - by the way, she aint no millionaire and lives in a shabby wee home in Canada - she doesnt do this for money!! But the US government likes money - If the zapper really did work - then the US would be f*cked! A country loves their sick people cause sick people spend a lot of money trying to get better - money lines peoples pockets - thats why i believe the US government banned - this is just an opinion by the way.

Try it and see if it works for you. And if it doesnt will loosing $10 break the bank?

 

Re: Zapper? (more) » TonyIreland

Posted by tealady on October 15, 2003, at 19:10:48

In reply to Re: Zapper? (more), posted by TonyIreland on October 15, 2003, at 17:47:11

Glad it worked for you Tony. Just goes to show, some things work even if some of us can't see how.
Jan

 

Zapperplans.com possible scam

Posted by Wolf Dreamer on December 20, 2003, at 10:36:41

In reply to Re: Zapper? (more), posted by TonyIreland on October 15, 2003, at 17:47:11

I checked the net and found this bit:
http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=292&i=652

Some have been waiting 4 months for it. It seems like it might be a scam.

I remember someone mentioning it here before, possible me, and I just wanted to inform you to be wary of this guy. And his e-mail address doesn't work.

Just did some searching, and this is one of the places it was mentioned at. Just in case anyone hears about a zapper, searchs the net, and comes to this place, I thought I'd come here and post a warning about the zapperplans site. Read the link to the curezone forum for the full story. I found it after searching the net when the e-mail I sent to inquire when my zapper would finally arrive, and the e-mail was returned immediately saying it couldn't be delivered "Reason: <luke@rocketship.com>: inactive user"

Has anyone ordered from this guy and got anything?

If anyone uses this tech, with results, post where you bought yours from and any other relevant information.

 

Re: Zapperplans.com possible scam » Wolf Dreamer

Posted by Wolf Dreamer on December 20, 2003, at 10:53:27

In reply to Zapperplans.com possible scam, posted by Wolf Dreamer on December 20, 2003, at 10:36:41

http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=292&i=1007

Whoops. Wish I would've read that before posting. I'm not certain what to think now. Apparently some people did get their order after 6 months. As long as it arrives, and this isn't just a scam, I'm happy, although being a bit more truthful on how long it would take would be appreciated.

So I guess we just keep waiting...

If you have ordered one and not got it in 6 months, please post. If you have gotten one ever, please post. I'm just curious what to make of all of this.

It wouldn't be fair to link to articals accusing the guy of scamming people, without linking to the ones that show him doing what he promised.... although much delayed.

Some of the older post of those people show them complaining about not getting it, then posting months later that they finally got it. That makes me think they are for real.

 

Re: Zapperplans.com possible scam » Wolf Dreamer

Posted by tealady on December 21, 2003, at 3:43:32

In reply to Re: Zapperplans.com possible scam » Wolf Dreamer, posted by Wolf Dreamer on December 20, 2003, at 10:53:27

>
> Some of the older post of those people show them complaining about not getting it, then posting months later that they finally got it. That makes me think they are for real.
>
>
Wolf, I don't have time to go to that site, but IMHO if you haven't got it in 2 months ..I would start thinking it was a scam..and no, the older posts bit would not sway my opinion... a good scam would do that and make some people think they had to wait 6 months.
If I had ordered something, couldn't communicate to find out where my order was, and it was longer than a reasonable period..say one month max. , and I purchased it on VISA or similar..I'd be notifying VISA (or similar) right away and letting them pursue it for starters.
If it did turn out that it was a scam, there's a very good chance VISA would not pay them..and then I'd notify the appropriate authorities if it did turn out to be a scam.
Good luck..but if you did buy it on VISA or similar..give them a call...they usually send a form out for you to fill out. They're pretty thorough and none of my family have ever had to pay for anything not received by doing this.

Hope this helps,
Jan

 

Zapperplans.com says how long right up front

Posted by sparker on August 11, 2004, at 20:05:50

In reply to Zapperplans.com possible scam, posted by Wolf Dreamer on December 20, 2003, at 10:36:41

> Some have been waiting 4 months for it. It seems like it might be a scam.
>

Hey, says right here:

http://zapperplans.com/contact.html

most are delivered in 1-2 months, some may take 4-6 months. Shouldn't be paranoid. They build Zapper to order, not ship from warehouse. Just takes a while, like says.

Here link on curezone:
http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=292&i=1009

If scam, don't see how they could still be up. Been up for years (check archives). Scams don't last long (take money and run).

> e-mail address doesn't work.
>
You're using wrong address. That rocketship address is way old and not used anymore. The contact link (above) tells how to contact. Try and I think you'll get through.

So anyway, anybody not see neg posts on Micro..., Yah..., or anybody else out there? Lots ot negs for all, right? Almost never see the goods but if they post it themselves, right?

Check out BBB, FTC, etc. No warnings, green light. Warnings, stay away, right?

Sorry for rant. Can't stand negs never follow up. Too easy to nay say and never say "good job", right?

 

you work for the scammer

Posted by Wolf Dreamer on August 11, 2004, at 21:51:17

In reply to Zapperplans.com says how long right up front, posted by sparker on August 11, 2004, at 20:05:50


Its odd that the only people that get anything in the mail are those that complained on the net. You found this place by the link included in my email I'm certain. Finding the proper email address took some doing, but fortunately I did so.

Looking at what finally arrived, after more than 8 months, I can't imagine why it took that long.

I got it on June 14th 2004. I ordered it at the beginning of October. Eight months to get something that can not possibly take more than 3 seconds to put together.

Lets see... there is a long wire, and on one end two alligator clamps. On the other a bit of twisted metal with electric tape around it, and a plug in thing for a 9 volt battery to go into. Yep. Wouldn't take more than a few seconds to build one of these things.

No one said anything about 8 months though. I mean, he cashes the check right away, and that takes longer to stamp the back of, than to put one of these things together.

You are obviously the guy. Because I posted here, you went ahead and sent me mine after a time, just like those who posted on curezone. I believe this is just a scam.

You can not be in any legitimate business for years and still not be able to fill an order in less than 8 months.

And why not just admit you are the guy? You've never posted here before have you?

 

Re: please be civil » Wolf Dreamer

Posted by Dr. Bob on August 12, 2004, at 2:07:43

In reply to you work for the scammer, posted by Wolf Dreamer on August 11, 2004, at 21:51:17

> You are obviously the guy. Because I posted here, you went ahead and sent me mine after a time, just like those who posted on curezone.

Please don't jump to conclusions about others.

Anyone who has questions about this or about posting policies in general, or who is interested in alternative ways of expressing themselves, should see the FAQ:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil

Also, follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.

Thanks,

Bob

 

Re: you work for the scammer

Posted by sparker on August 13, 2004, at 23:20:37

In reply to you work for the scammer, posted by Wolf Dreamer on August 11, 2004, at 21:51:17

Hi Wolf Dreamer,

Yes, I am new here (you always welcome so warmly?).

Clearly you value privacy much as me "Wolf Dreamer". Did I post something untrue in my other post? Sorry, I didn't seem to catch what was.

Found this link searching "zapperplans" on google. (Try it you get the same.) Checking out zapperplans.com site. Looks good. Searched all I could on CureZone (not fully searched Dr. Bob's here yet).

I find some negs and some pos. The pos say great stuff, couldn't do better. Some say quick and some say slow. I look at site. Site says could be slow sometimes. Look at negs. Check out your post. You say some wait 4 months. ZP says some wait 4-6 month. Seems to check. I check your link. All say hey, been 4 - 5 month. Suddenly thread end. Coincident? Not like! Maybe all got zappers like ZP says? Seems right to me. You check with ANY these guys? Why not asks em straight? I would. Think maybe I will.

Now, you say you order zapper and you GET zapper. Why not you say in first post? Got me going now. What you pulling on us out here anyway? (sorry, Dr. Bob hope I wasn't too hot) Why you not want us get zapper when you get zapper? Hey, you selling other zapper maybe? Seems like maybe. You say 8 months. I think maybe I ask ZP bout that. Hey, maybe ZP comes out here and say a bit? Sound good for me. Like that idea Dr. Bob? Let's see if get ZP out here and tell his side. Always 2 side, I say (and sorry but Wolf sound pretty good first don't seem add up when looked at close).

Hey, I just saw on link you give all says rocketship not work (long time back) and zapperplans.com address one to use. Why you not tell us first time? Why tell us rocketship don't work when you already know right address? Seems spooky now.

You check BBB, FTC, any agency? Find anything? Not me either. Anybody else got real stats? Please post you got some.

Can't say what bout Zapper circuit. 3 seconds? Don't seem real. Seems like conning again. Sure you don't sell competition Zapper? Hope ZP comes out here and say a few thinks make it straight.

Oh, I see. You not post here till I post. You watch it like a hawk and somebody says something different and you jump all over them. Sure do seem strange.

Sorry about not so good English. Gets a little bit sloppy when I get in a rush. Hope not too neg Dr. Bob. Just a quick answer. Well wishes Wolf Dreamer. Hope you and ZP get it straight someday.

 

you work for the scammer

Posted by Wolf Dreamer on August 14, 2004, at 10:27:13

In reply to Re: you work for the scammer, posted by sparker on August 13, 2004, at 23:20:37


I didn't mention I got mine in the first post because it hadn't arrived yet. As I said, it took 8 months. And curezone previously had a lot more post about this subject. I'm not sure what happened to the rest, but when I looked over there I couldn't find them. I assure you, many are unhappy with the guy and believe it is scam.

Anyway, I'm just going to ignore you. I honestly think there is a high chance you are working with the guy. You did speak English perfectly in your first post, but now seem to be making mistakes with it that I've never seen any foriegner make. Its like you are doing it on purpose.

And the email address listed on that site didn't work. He later posted where to find the new one at, after going through various steps and looking around, and that one seemed to work, although no reply was given.

I found no possitive comments on the guy, other than the ones he made himself on curezone, and his own webpage about it curing his dad's cancer or whatever.

 

Re: please be civil » sparker

Posted by Dr. Bob on August 14, 2004, at 13:37:37

In reply to Re: you work for the scammer, posted by sparker on August 13, 2004, at 23:20:37

> you always welcome so warmly?
>
> Did I post something untrue in my other post? Sorry, I didn't seem to catch what was.
>
> Hey, you selling other zapper maybe? Seems like maybe. ... sorry but Wolf sound pretty good first don't seem add up when looked at close
>
> Seems spooky now.
>
> Seems like conning again. Sure you don't sell competition Zapper?
>
> You not post here till I post. You watch it like a hawk and somebody says something different and you jump all over them. Sure do seem strange.

Please don't be sarcastic, jump to conclusions about others, or post anything that could lead them to feel accused.

Anyone who has questions about this or about posting policies in general, or who is interested in alternative ways of expressing themselves, should see the FAQ:

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Also, follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.

Thanks,

Bob

 

Re: you work for the scammer

Posted by sparker on August 15, 2004, at 12:28:09

In reply to you work for the scammer, posted by Wolf Dreamer on August 14, 2004, at 10:27:13

Hi Wolf,

Was going to sit out awhile and wait for other posts, but you keep making interesting. No hard feelings I hope? No hard feelings here (shouldn't accuse so much though, can get somebody riled, know what?).


> I didn't mention I got mine in the first post because it hadn't arrived yet. As I said, it took 8 months.
>
I see now how first post came before getting Zapper. Sorry, I thought your post more recent. Got your post mixed with post on link I put in first post. Both had same date (6-14) in different year. At least your "real a man" for saying it now (why I first post, right?)!

Now I have to wonder why you post first time round at all considering how like I aready mention they say right up front could take 6 months? Here link again:
http://zapperplans.com/contact.html
(straight from "Contact us" link on front page)


>And curezone previously had a lot more post about this subject. I'm not sure what happened to the rest, but when I looked over there I couldn't find them. I assure you, many are unhappy with the guy and believe it is scam.
>
Sounds like maybe they got Zappers and decided not scam? Seems like to me. Especially since positive posts now. Here's one I posted first time again:
http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=292&i=1009
Here other posts I found just looking now:
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=292&i=296
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=163&i=65

How "assure" me now when you not sure what happened and not sure now? Sorry Wolf. Seems sincere, but don't add up. Not accussing you, but don't add up, right? I think you think, but you just make mistake. Hey, honest mistake. I can't see facts add up to accusation. You should enjoy use Zapper and let rest, right? Think so!


> Anyway, I'm just going to ignore you. I honestly think there is a high chance you are working with the guy. You did speak English perfectly in your first post, but now seem to be making mistakes with it that I've never seen any foriegner make. Its like you are doing it on purpose.
>
Fine. Ignore me (and not nice poke at privacy). You only say cause you work somebody else? Let facts speak for them selfs.

What's this, now you criticize my English? Gimme break. Sheesh. First time I work hard. Don't think I do so good, but okay. Second time I go quick and say sorry cause short on time. Hey, your seems even some like mine in this post. Means hiding something? Gimme break.

I sure do write this post on purpose cause you seem smug and what you say not add up. No offense, just don't add up.

(BTW thanks for compliment English on first post, but sure I don't deserve. Wish I could.)


> And the email address listed on that site didn't work. He later posted where to find the new one at, after going through various steps and looking around, and that one seemed to work, although no reply was given.
>
Well, he say address didn't work, you say address didsn't work. Agree address didn't work. You know that, but you tell us address not work and you know right address but you not tell us you got right address? Sorry Wolf, I just can't get it. Don't add up. You should tell us old address not work, he provide you new info, you got new address, new address work fine, right? I find his info at link on ZP front page. You not find it there? Where?

Can't say if he reply. You say you got Zapper. Hard to figure.


> I found no possitive comments on the guy, other than the ones he made himself on curezone, and his own webpage about it curing his dad's cancer or whatever.
>
See postive post links above. I find more but tired of looking. You find more if you look. Stats say negs many times more like to post than pos. ZP gets some pos some neg. So stats say pos far outweigh negs, am I right? Ask your profs. Mine says right.

BTW, I read on ZP site Zapper helps Dad's sister's cancer. I know you just "missed" it, no problem, but what's the point, right?

I say, why not give ZP chance. He give you Zapper for ten dollar, right? Believe what says may take long time may not. Ten dollar six month long time good bargain! Come quicker? Cellebrate! Come longer? Still only ten dollar, right? He say quick? Can't find it.

Check out ZP before send ten dollar? Good idea! Check BBB, FTC, etc. Can't find problem? Nobody really not get Zapper? All I say is not cry scam.


>
Sorry, I try harder here, but still don't have time to get English real right, okay? Please, please no more heat for English perfection.

I wonder why plans? Oh, I get. Need now? Make. Can wait? Save work. Sounds good idea. Anybody think so too? Post here.

Hey Wolf, why wait 8 month why not make some? ZP give you free plans! Hope you doing well.

Not here trying to offend, just wondering why so neg on ZP and facts not add up. Seems you probably good intend but honest mistaken.

Sorry everybody, try to make clear but no more time.

Gotta go.

 

Re: you work for the scammer » sparker

Posted by Larry Hoover on August 15, 2004, at 13:46:50

In reply to Re: you work for the scammer, posted by sparker on August 15, 2004, at 12:28:09

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20031003/msgs/267821.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20031003/msgs/267815.html

 

it cures cancer, diabetes, and parasites!

Posted by Wolf Dreamer on August 15, 2004, at 17:11:26

In reply to Re: you work for the scammer » sparker, posted by Larry Hoover on August 15, 2004, at 13:46:50


sparker, you linked to one post that said it help with someone's diabetes somehow, and another that said they had a lot of health problems their entire life that turned out to be parasites, apparently cleared by use of the zapper. Both were from scammers, I assure you. You don't say "wow! My lifelong illness has been cured by a zapper, I think it came from zapperplans!"
If you had been cured instantly after suffering a life long series of illnesses, you'd remember where you got the product from, instead of just guessing. You'd also provide a lot more information than that.

I had forgotten about Larry Hover's wonderful links. I think those are much better.

Anyway, topic dead as far as I'm concerned. Its just a scam, and no need to waste any more time with it. I plugged mine up briefly, felt the electricity in my mouth, and thought perhaps the electric current might go through my mercury fillings and cause them to leak out, as exposure to electrical current and strong magnetic fields has been proven to do. No sense risking a mercury link based on the hope this thing would do anything at all. Maybe the product makes people crazy do to mercury leaking fillings, and thats why they believe it works. ;) Seriously, being around that long, and having so many orders it takes 8 months to get one, would mean if it worked he'd have people posting all over the net about it, not just here and there at curezone in a suspecious manner.

 

Re: blocked for week » sparker

Posted by Dr. Bob on August 16, 2004, at 7:51:58

In reply to Re: you work for the scammer, posted by sparker on August 15, 2004, at 12:28:09

> Seems sincere, but don't add up.
>
> You only say cause you work somebody else?
>
> you seem smug

Please don't jump to conclusions about others or post anything that could lead them to feel accused. I asked you to be civil before, so now I'm going to block you from posting for a week.

Anyone who has questions about this or about posting policies in general, or who is interested in alternative ways of expressing themselves, should see the FAQ:

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Bob


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