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Posted by clairey on December 7, 2003, at 9:34:37
Hello
i have been reading a great deal on the supplement NADH/ENADA.
It is said to be good with all the brain chemicals (sorry im no good at this stuff)
Especially dopamine, which they say plays a big part in social anxiety (which i get).Has anyone taken this?
Any good or bad effects you noticed?Thanks for your help!
claire :)
Posted by DSCH on December 9, 2003, at 19:27:11
In reply to NADH, anxiety/social phobia? anyone taken this?, posted by clairey on December 7, 2003, at 9:34:37
I know Larry Hoover and Ron Hill have taken/are taking NADH, but not for your reasons. If you do a google dr-bob.org search you will find plaenty of posts on it.
As long as we are talking about B vitamins... Larry, could you take a glance at this Source Naturals Coenzymated B-complex product for me?
http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/browse/sku_detail.jhtml?SkuID=4263&BreadCrumbType=SearchResult
I'm not so familar with the activated forms of the B vitamins (esp. B12 = DIBENCOZIDE?). Does this look like something worth giving a try for activation/stress resistance?
I am going to give ENADA NADH a whirl soon. I was thinking this might be a good complement to it if taken sparingly.
Posted by DSCH on December 10, 2003, at 0:43:36
In reply to NADH... and coenzymated B-complex? Larry?, posted by DSCH on December 9, 2003, at 19:27:11
Hmmmm, Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucleotide is one of the forms of B3 listed as being present in the Source Naturals complex (10 mg per two tablets).
It's not ENADA, though? Just NAD rather than NADH?
Posted by clairey on December 10, 2003, at 3:02:34
In reply to NAD or non-ENADA NADH in the Source Naturals?, posted by DSCH on December 10, 2003, at 0:43:36
> Hmmmm, Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucleotide is one of the forms of B3 listed as being present in the Source Naturals complex (10 mg per two tablets).
>
> It's not ENADA, though? Just NAD rather than NADH?They sell that stuff here.
http://www.supportme.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Enada_NADH_11.html
Posted by Larry Hoover on December 12, 2003, at 9:44:46
In reply to NADH... and coenzymated B-complex? Larry?, posted by DSCH on December 9, 2003, at 19:27:11
> I know Larry Hoover and Ron Hill have taken/are taking NADH, but not for your reasons. If you do a google dr-bob.org search you will find plaenty of posts on it.
>
> As long as we are talking about B vitamins... Larry, could you take a glance at this Source Naturals Coenzymated B-complex product for me?
>
> http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/browse/sku_detail.jhtml?SkuID=4263&BreadCrumbType=SearchResult
>
> I'm not so familar with the activated forms of the B vitamins (esp. B12 = DIBENCOZIDE?). Does this look like something worth giving a try for activation/stress resistance?
>
> I am going to give ENADA NADH a whirl soon. I was thinking this might be a good complement to it if taken sparingly.I really can't say if the extra expense is worthwhile or not....I'm not a fan of fancy supplements in general...Some people do better with e.g. P5P (pyridoxal-5-phosphate) than simple pyridoxine, but such cases tend to be exceptions, IMHO.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on December 12, 2003, at 9:46:47
In reply to NAD or non-ENADA NADH in the Source Naturals?, posted by DSCH on December 10, 2003, at 0:43:36
> Hmmmm, Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucleotide is one of the forms of B3 listed as being present in the Source Naturals complex (10 mg per two tablets).
>
> It's not ENADA, though? Just NAD rather than NADH?The Enada is designed to avoid digestion in the stomach, so it is absorbed "whole"....I suspect it's merely enteric coated... Oral NAD will decompose to adenosine and nicotinic acid....no benefit over food or B3 supps, IMHO.
Lar
Posted by clairey on December 12, 2003, at 9:56:35
In reply to Re: NAD or non-ENADA NADH in the Source Naturals? » DSCH, posted by Larry Hoover on December 12, 2003, at 9:46:47
So does anyone know whether the ENADA NADH is good for anxiety? as in high doses i heard it can cause anxiety as it is knid of like a stimulant.
Just wondering whether it will be any good for GAD
Thanks
Posted by DSCH on December 12, 2003, at 10:07:45
In reply to Re: NAD or non-ENADA NADH in the Source Naturals? » DSCH, posted by Larry Hoover on December 12, 2003, at 9:46:47
Posted by Larry Hoover on December 12, 2003, at 10:27:19
In reply to NADH... and coenzymated B-complex? Larry?, posted by DSCH on December 9, 2003, at 19:27:11
> As long as we are talking about B vitamins... Larry, could you take a glance at this Source Naturals Coenzymated B-complex product for me?
I would like to add something....from a different realm of "being" than the purely cognitive, where I was when I first answered you...if your intuition guides you towards this stuff (and you can afford it....blah blah), then I'd go for it. If you do, please report on your experience with it.
LAR
Posted by clairey on December 12, 2003, at 10:50:07
In reply to Re: coenzymated B-complex? (addendum) » DSCH, posted by Larry Hoover on December 12, 2003, at 10:27:19
Anyone want to comment on the actual starter thread for me please?
Thanks
Posted by tealady on December 12, 2003, at 15:27:39
In reply to NAD or non-ENADA NADH in the Source Naturals?, posted by DSCH on December 10, 2003, at 0:43:36
> Hmmmm, Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucleotide is one of the forms of B3 listed as being present in the Source Naturals complex (10 mg per two tablets).
>
> It's not ENADA, though? Just NAD rather than NADH?bit on NAD V NADH here
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20031204/msgs/288520.htmlP5P B6 is thought more likely to be beneficial to women over 40 who sometimes don't convert B6 as well as desired for their needs
The B12 co-enZ form is the other one tp methylcobalamin.. sorry I've forgotten, but it has different functions to methylcobabalmin
I looked at this product before and it did look cost effective against buying NADH and P5P ..but I doubt if a lot of the coenz forms are needed and you are not getting the complete breakdown of te vitamins...like only one coenz form of B12.
As Lar said, if you give it a go let us all knowJan
Posted by DSCH on December 12, 2003, at 16:02:13
In reply to Re: coenzymated B-complex? (addendum), posted by clairey on December 12, 2003, at 10:50:07
> Anyone want to comment on the actual starter thread for me please?
> ThanksSorry, I feel like a thread hijacker here.
I'm afraid most of the NADH folks are going to turn out to be atypical depressives or CFS-sufferers rather than GAD/SPs, so I think you won't get much relevant feedback.
To the extent that NADH is claimed to boost neurotransmitter synthesis I would say it is at least worth a shot.
Posted by DSCH on December 12, 2003, at 16:04:10
In reply to Re: NAD or non-ENADA NADH in the Source Naturals? » DSCH, posted by tealady on December 12, 2003, at 15:27:39
Posted by DSCH on December 15, 2003, at 21:41:40
In reply to Re: coenzymated B-complex? (addendum) » DSCH, posted by Larry Hoover on December 12, 2003, at 10:27:19
And I'm not feeling anything yet.
Anyone got an idea of how much longer I should keep taking it before concluding this isn't going to do anything for me?
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