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Posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 9, 2003, at 5:20:57
I have compusive obsessive thoughts, or whatever... can't help but think of every possible thing that could go wrong, no matter how rediculous it is. I keep argueing with people that don't exist and that I'll probably never meet.
I'm antisocial by choice, since unlike most people I do not require interaction with others. I used to have social anxiety disorder, but I think I outgrew that since I can go to the store by myself these days. Since I don't get out much, and seldom alone, I'm not sure. I think I could probably go to some place I've never been before, provided it wasn't too far away and I had a cell phone with me.
Anyway, I've been popping Omega 3's for almost 2 weeks now, as well as some other stuff, and I haven't gotten any better. I also gave up sugar.
Anyway, I think it would be nice if everyone who has actually gotten over a problem post what they had, what they took, and how long it took to get results.
Oh, I gave up sugar until last night when I decided I'd start with orange juice again, even though it says SUGARS on the ingrediants. It isn't table sugar that is added to it, just natural sugars found in the juice, so maybe that wouldn't bother me or give me candida.
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 9, 2003, at 8:58:48
In reply to Anyone get better? How long does it take, etc., posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 9, 2003, at 5:20:57
> I have compusive obsessive thoughts, or whatever... can't help but think of every possible thing that could go wrong, no matter how rediculous it is. I keep argueing with people that don't exist and that I'll probably never meet.
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> I'm antisocial by choice, since unlike most people I do not require interaction with others. I used to have social anxiety disorder, but I think I outgrew that since I can go to the store by myself these days. Since I don't get out much, and seldom alone, I'm not sure. I think I could probably go to some place I've never been before, provided it wasn't too far away and I had a cell phone with me.
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> Anyway, I've been popping Omega 3's for almost 2 weeks now, as well as some other stuff, and I haven't gotten any better. I also gave up sugar.It can be months before the subtle effects of omega-3 supplementation come into your awareness....because they can be very subtle, you don't notice the gradual changes that take place, unless you journal or something like that. Fish oil is a food concentrate, not a medication.
You didn't get out of balance in two weeks, so please try to have some patience while you work to rebalance your biochemistry. A few grams of omega-3s per day will not saturate your brain with the "right stuff" for months.....it takes that long, particularly because your liver and blood vessels get first crack at the fish oil. They are starved, too.
> Anyway, I think it would be nice if everyone who has actually gotten over a problem post what they had, what they took, and how long it took to get results.
In simple terms, I have been working at restoring my health for six years following a crash into virtually catatonic depression. I'm still improving. I also have comorbid chronic fatigue syndrome, irritable bowel syndrome, insomnia, and other stuff.
> Oh, I gave up sugar until last night when I decided I'd start with orange juice again, even though it says SUGARS on the ingrediants. It isn't table sugar that is added to it, just natural sugars found in the juice, so maybe that wouldn't bother me or give me candida.
Sugar crystals, what you're thinking of when you think of sugar, as in a sugar bowl on the table, are a natural sugar. If you're ingesting sugar, you're ingesting sugar.
If you're serious about a candida-elimination diet, go to:
http://www.mwilliamson.com/yeastdiet.htmRecommended supplements include selenium, MSM (methyl sulfonyl methane), coenzyme Q10, and shark liver oil (but I haven't verified the latter, yet).
It's generally recommended that you avoid gluten and milk protein for a while, during the initil phase of the elimination diet, to reduce the irritation/inflammation induced by these two. Just for the record, gluten alone can cause obsessive thinking.
There's a lot to figure out (by doing little experiments). Advice is general, but you're unique. You need to figure out the pieces to your own puzzle. My pieces won't necessarily fit into your puzzle.
Lar
Posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 9, 2003, at 11:31:39
In reply to Re: Anyone get better? How long does it take, etc. » Wolf Dreamer, posted by Larry Hoover on October 9, 2003, at 8:58:48
gluten: a tenacious elastic protein substance especially of wheat flour that gives cohesiveness to dough
So bread is bad. I have been eating breaded chicken paddies. I guess that is bad.
http://www.bcm.tmc.edu/cnrc/consumer/archives/sugar-drinks.htm
Some colas and other beverages use sucrose, or table sugar, to provide sweetness. Sucrose is made of two simple sugars, called glucose and fructose. Glucose is the sugar found in the bloodstream, while fructose makes fruit taste sweet.So all sugar is bad for me, even eating oranges?
I'm going to try to get to the GNC today and get some lactobacillus acidophilus and bifidobacillus acidophilus. That should kill off the candida better than starving it, so perhaps I won't have to give up orange juice.
I ordered a $10 zapper from http://www.zapperplans.com/ after reading up on them. Apparently if you expose yeast, disease, or parasites to the proper electromagnetic frequency they die. This could easily be proven under a microscope I would imagine, but I can't find evidence of anyone doing that. I'm going to try it though. The internet allows an exchange of information that those who conspire in the government for the sake of big business(doctors and drug companies) can not oppress. So it makes sense Dr. Price's work was kept down for decades before reentering the public mind. Anyway, anyone have any sucess with a zapper?
Posted by McPac on October 9, 2003, at 17:10:36
In reply to Re: Anyone get better? How long does it take, etc., posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 9, 2003, at 11:31:39
Lar,
what do you make of these "Zappers"---do these things really work or is this quackery?
Posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 10, 2003, at 0:30:21
In reply to Re: Anyone get better? How long does it take, etc., posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 9, 2003, at 11:31:39
I looked up information about "orange juice" and "candida" and after some searching found various sites indicating that when they tested pasturized orange juice, they found more yeast in them than in unpasterized orange juice. Weird. Anyway, orange juice is a breeding ground for candida, so I'm giving it up again. After almost two weeks without it, I went insane and started drinking it and eating oranges the other day. Oh well.
I do believe I felt better on some days when I ate nothing but masquete chicken. I never realized why that was. Apparently the breaded chicken paddies drive me insane. No more bread ever.
I've read many testimonies from people who say the zapper has worked for them. Since I found one for only $10 I thought I'd give it a try. That price includes shipping.
I tried to explain to my parents about candida, but they unfortunately are the closed minded people(typical humans) who rejected anything knew thinking it nonsense. Rather frustrating.
I'm thinking they should take a massive dose of gluten and stick it into someone who doesn't have obsessive compussive thoughts, and see what happens to them. I'm thinking some of us are affected because we have some sort of food allergy. This would be a good way to test it, although it may be other problems.
Posted by McPac on October 10, 2003, at 9:14:44
In reply to Re: Anyone get better? How long does it take, etc. » Wolf Dreamer, posted by Larry Hoover on October 9, 2003, at 8:58:48
"Just for the record, gluten alone can cause obsessive thinking."
Lar, do you have any links that talk about this?
Thanks!
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 10, 2003, at 10:10:45
In reply to Lar, get better? How long does it take, etc., posted by McPac on October 10, 2003, at 9:14:44
> "Just for the record, gluten alone can cause obsessive thinking."
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> Lar, do you have any links that talk about this?
> Thanks!It's one of the symptoms of so-called positive symptom schizophrenia, and some cases of schizophrenia are clearly *caused* (yes, I know, cause is a rather uncommon word for me to use, but the link is so robust, I'm going to use it here) by gluten exposure.
I don't have a link to offer you, at the moment. I'm just getting a new computer up, and it's not fully operational yet.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 10, 2003, at 10:16:13
In reply to Lar, get better? How long does it take, etc., posted by McPac on October 9, 2003, at 17:10:36
> Lar,
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> what do you make of these "Zappers"---do these things really work or is this quackery?I don't know anything about them. Anybody got a good link to a product or description?
I can tell you this....if they're supposed to work by the production of some sort of energy field, one of the primary rules of physics is that the field intensity varies as the square of the distance from the source. So, let's say the Zapper has a field intensity of one unit at a distance of one centimeter (about 0.4 inches). To have the same field intensity at 2 cm, the source would have to four times as intense (2 squared). At 3 cm, 9 times as intense, and so on.
I can't quite picture how you would apply the field uniformly and thoroughly, in all parts of the digestive tract. Moreover, I cannot conceive of a device which will kill e.g. yeast, but not disrupt your own cells.
I'm speculating, but I'm thinking quack quack. Links, anyone?
Lar
Posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 10, 2003, at 10:19:56
In reply to Re: Zapper? » McPac, posted by Larry Hoover on October 10, 2003, at 10:16:13
I already gave a link.
www.zapperplans.com
There you can see how to make one yourself, or buy one for $10. He has links to sites that champion the cause, and those that cast doubt upon it, or more specifically, certain people who champion it.
The energy channels through your entire body. Copper rod in each hand, it cycles through you. When I get mine from him in the mail, I'll post if it worked or not.
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 10, 2003, at 10:35:47
In reply to Re: Zapper? » Larry Hoover, posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 10, 2003, at 10:19:56
> I already gave a link.
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> www.zapperplans.comSorry. Missed it.
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> There you can see how to make one yourself, or buy one for $10. He has links to sites that champion the cause, and those that cast doubt upon it, or more specifically, certain people who champion it.
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> The energy channels through your entire body. Copper rod in each hand, it cycles through you. When I get mine from him in the mail, I'll post if it worked or not.The Federal Trade Commission is taking legal action to block the sale of these devices, and to prevent transmission of information about them.
Good luck.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 10, 2003, at 12:12:02
In reply to Re: Zapper? » Larry Hoover, posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 10, 2003, at 10:19:56
> I already gave a link.
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> www.zapperplans.com
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> There you can see how to make one yourself, or buy one for $10. He has links to sites that champion the cause, and those that cast doubt upon it, or more specifically, certain people who champion it.
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> The energy channels through your entire body. Copper rod in each hand, it cycles through you. When I get mine from him in the mail, I'll post if it worked or not.Fine. Here's the Quackwatch report:
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/clark.html
...and, a copy of the actual complaint filed against Dr. (sic) Clark, by the Federal Trade Commission:
http://www.quackwatch.org/02ConsumerProtection/FTCActions/clarkcomplaint.html
By the way, I'd be interested in any explanation of just how it is that direct current has any sort of frequency associated with it.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 10, 2003, at 12:22:41
In reply to Re: Zapper? » Larry Hoover, posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 10, 2003, at 10:19:56
> I already gave a link.
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> www.zapperplans.comThis is an extract from an existing judgment prohibiting the sale of the Zapper in the United States. The unfortunate thing is that the judgment only applies to the specified persons and corporate entities charged. I'd assume that whoever sold you the unit/plans is next.
PROHIBITED REPRESENTATIONS
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED, in connection with the advertising, offering for sale or sale of the Zapper electrical unit or any other covered product or service, that defendants and their successors, assigns, officers, agents, servants, employees, attorneys and those persons or entities in active concert or participation with them who receive actual notice of this Order by personal service or otherwise—whether acting directly or through any corporation, subsidiary, division or other device—are hereby permanently restrained and enjoined from misrepresenting that use of any such product in the treatment of cancer makes surgery or chemotherapy unnecessary.
II. IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, in connection with the advertising, offering for sale or sale of the Zapper electrical unit or any other covered product or service, that defendants and their officers, agents, directors, employees, salespersons, independent contractors, attorneys, subsidiaries, affiliates, successors, assigns and all other persons or entities in active concert or participation with them who receive actual notice of this Order by personal service or otherwise, whether acting directly or through any corporation, subsidiary, division or other device, are hereby permanently restrained and enjoined from making any express or implied representation concerning the health benefits, performance, safety, or efficacy of any such product or service, unless, at the time the representation is first made, defendants possess and rely upon competent and reliable scientific evidence. “Competent and reliable scientific evidence” shall mean tests, analyses, research, studies or other evidence based on the expertise of professionals in the relevant area, that have been conducted and evaluated in an objective manner by persons qualified to do so, using procedures generally accepted in the profession to yield accurate and reliable results.
Posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 10, 2003, at 19:52:47
In reply to Re: Zapper? (more) » Wolf Dreamer, posted by Larry Hoover on October 10, 2003, at 12:22:41
There are many types of zappers out there, not all of them will work as well as others.
As I said when I first mentioned them, it should be easy enough for scientist to prove or disprove. Put the diseases, parasites, or fungus under a microscope, expose them to electromagnetic energy of the proper frequency, and see if they die.
Did you read anything about Dr. Price and his remarkable achievements decades ago? It is odd that so many that supported his findings at first changed their minds later on, or died with their research destroyed.
Anyway, one crazed woman who decided to cash in big time from this is irrelevant. If it does work, and is cheap to make, then what? Not a lot of money to be made from it. So they'd also profit from other things, and overcharge people for actual visits to a clinic perhaps.
Some people use a zapper, some use a magnetic pulser...
The sucess stories I read posted here and there usually involved someone suddenly running to the toliet, or not quite making it, with worms flying out of their butts. Not really the most pleasant of reading. I don't think they could all be made up, since not all of them link to any product they use. I'm hopeful but a bit skeptical.
If conspiracies about fluoride, mercury and nickel tooth fillings, and other horrors have been proven true, perhaps this oppressed technology might work also.
Posted by tealady on October 10, 2003, at 22:27:28
In reply to Re: Zapper? (more) » Larry Hoover, posted by Wolf Dreamer on October 10, 2003, at 19:52:47
Wolf, IMO it's a scam..and even IF it could work..would you want it to?
I mean how is this this going to differeniate between good and bad bacteria? If it could work it would have to kill you just as easily as it killed the bad bacteria, wouldn't it?
I really don't think there is any "proper frequency of electromagnetic energy".....especially one that is reserved just for bad bacteria etc to respond to.
Good luck and take care,
Jan
Posted by glenn on October 12, 2003, at 3:45:44
In reply to Re: Zapper? » McPac, posted by Larry Hoover on October 10, 2003, at 10:16:13
If this is the Hulda Clark inspired machine then sadly it is probably rather limited, she is the author of books such as " The Cure For All Cancers" and I beleive now practices in Mexico.
I am ok with the idea that we may well harbour parasites without which we might all feel better, however her comment about depression was something like " I have never seen a patient with depression who did not have hookworms in their brains"
Right Hulda , so you managed to get a slice of all their brains and analyse them thoroughly!
Her ideas are discussed a lot onwww.curezone.com
The simple herbal alternative is to try wormwood, cloves and black walnut, try
http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/mall/how_to_use_herbs_to_deworm.asp
Ithink the idea of some form of electrical assitance apart from ect or rtms is interesting but claims seem easy to make, evidence more difficult to find.
Glenn
ps I am going to deworm, why not, might be interesting and if it helps imho increased energy would be a worthwhile payback!
Posted by TonyIreland on October 15, 2003, at 17:47:11
In reply to Re: Zapper? (more), posted by tealady on October 10, 2003, at 22:27:28
I find it alarming why people say it's a scam - dont listen to these people. And dont listen to the people say yeah zappers definetly work.
I have used the zapper as I had very bad stomach problems for 8 years - 2 months after using zapper - my problems were gone and have never came back - do i believe in it? Absolutely. Does it work for everyone? I dont know.
Beware of that quackery site - as it itself its full of rubbish too!! Dr Huldha Clark who promotes the zapper was banned in the usa and thats it - she is world wide recognised for her contributions - by the way, she aint no millionaire and lives in a shabby wee home in Canada - she doesnt do this for money!! But the US government likes money - If the zapper really did work - then the US would be f*cked! A country loves their sick people cause sick people spend a lot of money trying to get better - money lines peoples pockets - thats why i believe the US government banned - this is just an opinion by the way.
Try it and see if it works for you. And if it doesnt will loosing $10 break the bank?
Posted by tealady on October 15, 2003, at 19:10:48
In reply to Re: Zapper? (more), posted by TonyIreland on October 15, 2003, at 17:47:11
Glad it worked for you Tony. Just goes to show, some things work even if some of us can't see how.
Jan
Posted by Wolf Dreamer on December 20, 2003, at 10:36:41
In reply to Re: Zapper? (more), posted by TonyIreland on October 15, 2003, at 17:47:11
I checked the net and found this bit:
http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=292&i=652Some have been waiting 4 months for it. It seems like it might be a scam.
I remember someone mentioning it here before, possible me, and I just wanted to inform you to be wary of this guy. And his e-mail address doesn't work.
Just did some searching, and this is one of the places it was mentioned at. Just in case anyone hears about a zapper, searchs the net, and comes to this place, I thought I'd come here and post a warning about the zapperplans site. Read the link to the curezone forum for the full story. I found it after searching the net when the e-mail I sent to inquire when my zapper would finally arrive, and the e-mail was returned immediately saying it couldn't be delivered "Reason: <luke@rocketship.com>: inactive user"
Has anyone ordered from this guy and got anything?
If anyone uses this tech, with results, post where you bought yours from and any other relevant information.
Posted by Wolf Dreamer on December 20, 2003, at 10:53:27
In reply to Zapperplans.com possible scam, posted by Wolf Dreamer on December 20, 2003, at 10:36:41
http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=292&i=1007
Whoops. Wish I would've read that before posting. I'm not certain what to think now. Apparently some people did get their order after 6 months. As long as it arrives, and this isn't just a scam, I'm happy, although being a bit more truthful on how long it would take would be appreciated.
So I guess we just keep waiting...
If you have ordered one and not got it in 6 months, please post. If you have gotten one ever, please post. I'm just curious what to make of all of this.
It wouldn't be fair to link to articals accusing the guy of scamming people, without linking to the ones that show him doing what he promised.... although much delayed.
Some of the older post of those people show them complaining about not getting it, then posting months later that they finally got it. That makes me think they are for real.
Posted by tealady on December 21, 2003, at 3:43:32
In reply to Re: Zapperplans.com possible scam » Wolf Dreamer, posted by Wolf Dreamer on December 20, 2003, at 10:53:27
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> Some of the older post of those people show them complaining about not getting it, then posting months later that they finally got it. That makes me think they are for real.
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Wolf, I don't have time to go to that site, but IMHO if you haven't got it in 2 months ..I would start thinking it was a scam..and no, the older posts bit would not sway my opinion... a good scam would do that and make some people think they had to wait 6 months.
If I had ordered something, couldn't communicate to find out where my order was, and it was longer than a reasonable period..say one month max. , and I purchased it on VISA or similar..I'd be notifying VISA (or similar) right away and letting them pursue it for starters.
If it did turn out that it was a scam, there's a very good chance VISA would not pay them..and then I'd notify the appropriate authorities if it did turn out to be a scam.
Good luck..but if you did buy it on VISA or similar..give them a call...they usually send a form out for you to fill out. They're pretty thorough and none of my family have ever had to pay for anything not received by doing this.Hope this helps,
Jan
Posted by sparker on August 11, 2004, at 20:05:50
In reply to Zapperplans.com possible scam, posted by Wolf Dreamer on December 20, 2003, at 10:36:41
> Some have been waiting 4 months for it. It seems like it might be a scam.
>Hey, says right here:
http://zapperplans.com/contact.html
most are delivered in 1-2 months, some may take 4-6 months. Shouldn't be paranoid. They build Zapper to order, not ship from warehouse. Just takes a while, like says.
Here link on curezone:
http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=292&i=1009If scam, don't see how they could still be up. Been up for years (check archives). Scams don't last long (take money and run).
> e-mail address doesn't work.
>
You're using wrong address. That rocketship address is way old and not used anymore. The contact link (above) tells how to contact. Try and I think you'll get through.So anyway, anybody not see neg posts on Micro..., Yah..., or anybody else out there? Lots ot negs for all, right? Almost never see the goods but if they post it themselves, right?
Check out BBB, FTC, etc. No warnings, green light. Warnings, stay away, right?
Sorry for rant. Can't stand negs never follow up. Too easy to nay say and never say "good job", right?
Posted by Wolf Dreamer on August 11, 2004, at 21:51:17
In reply to Zapperplans.com says how long right up front, posted by sparker on August 11, 2004, at 20:05:50
Its odd that the only people that get anything in the mail are those that complained on the net. You found this place by the link included in my email I'm certain. Finding the proper email address took some doing, but fortunately I did so.Looking at what finally arrived, after more than 8 months, I can't imagine why it took that long.
I got it on June 14th 2004. I ordered it at the beginning of October. Eight months to get something that can not possibly take more than 3 seconds to put together.
Lets see... there is a long wire, and on one end two alligator clamps. On the other a bit of twisted metal with electric tape around it, and a plug in thing for a 9 volt battery to go into. Yep. Wouldn't take more than a few seconds to build one of these things.
No one said anything about 8 months though. I mean, he cashes the check right away, and that takes longer to stamp the back of, than to put one of these things together.
You are obviously the guy. Because I posted here, you went ahead and sent me mine after a time, just like those who posted on curezone. I believe this is just a scam.
You can not be in any legitimate business for years and still not be able to fill an order in less than 8 months.
And why not just admit you are the guy? You've never posted here before have you?
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 12, 2004, at 2:07:43
In reply to you work for the scammer, posted by Wolf Dreamer on August 11, 2004, at 21:51:17
> You are obviously the guy. Because I posted here, you went ahead and sent me mine after a time, just like those who posted on curezone.
Please don't jump to conclusions about others.
Anyone who has questions about this or about posting policies in general, or who is interested in alternative ways of expressing themselves, should see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Also, follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by sparker on August 13, 2004, at 23:20:37
In reply to you work for the scammer, posted by Wolf Dreamer on August 11, 2004, at 21:51:17
Hi Wolf Dreamer,
Yes, I am new here (you always welcome so warmly?).
Clearly you value privacy much as me "Wolf Dreamer". Did I post something untrue in my other post? Sorry, I didn't seem to catch what was.
Found this link searching "zapperplans" on google. (Try it you get the same.) Checking out zapperplans.com site. Looks good. Searched all I could on CureZone (not fully searched Dr. Bob's here yet).
I find some negs and some pos. The pos say great stuff, couldn't do better. Some say quick and some say slow. I look at site. Site says could be slow sometimes. Look at negs. Check out your post. You say some wait 4 months. ZP says some wait 4-6 month. Seems to check. I check your link. All say hey, been 4 - 5 month. Suddenly thread end. Coincident? Not like! Maybe all got zappers like ZP says? Seems right to me. You check with ANY these guys? Why not asks em straight? I would. Think maybe I will.
Now, you say you order zapper and you GET zapper. Why not you say in first post? Got me going now. What you pulling on us out here anyway? (sorry, Dr. Bob hope I wasn't too hot) Why you not want us get zapper when you get zapper? Hey, you selling other zapper maybe? Seems like maybe. You say 8 months. I think maybe I ask ZP bout that. Hey, maybe ZP comes out here and say a bit? Sound good for me. Like that idea Dr. Bob? Let's see if get ZP out here and tell his side. Always 2 side, I say (and sorry but Wolf sound pretty good first don't seem add up when looked at close).
Hey, I just saw on link you give all says rocketship not work (long time back) and zapperplans.com address one to use. Why you not tell us first time? Why tell us rocketship don't work when you already know right address? Seems spooky now.
You check BBB, FTC, any agency? Find anything? Not me either. Anybody else got real stats? Please post you got some.
Can't say what bout Zapper circuit. 3 seconds? Don't seem real. Seems like conning again. Sure you don't sell competition Zapper? Hope ZP comes out here and say a few thinks make it straight.
Oh, I see. You not post here till I post. You watch it like a hawk and somebody says something different and you jump all over them. Sure do seem strange.
Sorry about not so good English. Gets a little bit sloppy when I get in a rush. Hope not too neg Dr. Bob. Just a quick answer. Well wishes Wolf Dreamer. Hope you and ZP get it straight someday.
Posted by Wolf Dreamer on August 14, 2004, at 10:27:13
In reply to Re: you work for the scammer, posted by sparker on August 13, 2004, at 23:20:37
I didn't mention I got mine in the first post because it hadn't arrived yet. As I said, it took 8 months. And curezone previously had a lot more post about this subject. I'm not sure what happened to the rest, but when I looked over there I couldn't find them. I assure you, many are unhappy with the guy and believe it is scam.Anyway, I'm just going to ignore you. I honestly think there is a high chance you are working with the guy. You did speak English perfectly in your first post, but now seem to be making mistakes with it that I've never seen any foriegner make. Its like you are doing it on purpose.
And the email address listed on that site didn't work. He later posted where to find the new one at, after going through various steps and looking around, and that one seemed to work, although no reply was given.
I found no possitive comments on the guy, other than the ones he made himself on curezone, and his own webpage about it curing his dad's cancer or whatever.
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