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Posted by Willful on January 19, 2014, at 11:36:50
In reply to Re: blocked for 2 weeks » Twinleaf, posted by Dr. Bob on January 19, 2014, at 11:17:15
This is a very unfair block, completely undeserved, and expressing a certain narcissistic and probably unself-aware view of the world.
The substance of what Twinleaf wrote is completely true. And you might as well have thanked as blocked her.
I'm sorry that you have so clearly hurt and disgusted the former deputies and so many others here.
Did you mean to see what would become of us if you introduced a curious, topsy-turvy morality of negation?
Now you know.
Posted by sigismund on January 19, 2014, at 11:36:51
In reply to Re: blocked for 2 weeks » Twinleaf, posted by Dr. Bob on January 19, 2014, at 11:17:15
I perhaps do not agree with Twinleaf about Lou, which is neither here nor there.
I simply do not understand why she cops it, why it happens to her repeatedly (so it seems to me).
My best guess is that Bob is particularly unmoved by appeals to principles.
Posted by HomelyCygnet on January 19, 2014, at 11:36:51
In reply to Re: blocked for 2 weeks » Twinleaf, posted by Dr. Bob on January 19, 2014, at 11:17:15
and old poopy head was just doing her a solid
Posted by SLS on January 19, 2014, at 11:36:51
In reply to , posted by on December 31, 1969, at 18:00:00
> and old poopy head was just doing her a solid
Why would 10derheart do that? Do you have a theory of mind?
I wasn't aware that there was any friction between 10derheart and Twinleaf.
- Scott
Posted by HomelyCygnet on January 19, 2014, at 11:36:52
In reply to , posted by on December 31, 1969, at 18:00:00
> > and old poopy head was just doing her a solid
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> Why would 10derheart do that? Do you have a theory of mind?
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> I wasn't aware that there was any friction between 10derheart and Twinleaf.
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> - ScottFormer Deputy der heart was part of admin when Twinleaf was blocked for 8 months. Her character was apparent in those days. I assume that character and her training in admin matters continues to guide her decisions. Suggesting her motivation was personal friction with another is way out of line. Perhaps she should push the snitch button on the poster who suggested it.
Posted by SLS on January 19, 2014, at 11:36:52
In reply to , posted by on December 31, 1969, at 18:00:00
Hi HC.
Thanks for the explanation.
- Scott--------------------------------------
> > > and old poopy head was just doing her a solid
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> > Why would 10derheart do that? Do you have a theory of mind?
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> > I wasn't aware that there was any friction between 10derheart and Twinleaf.
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> > - Scott
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> Former Deputy der heart was part of admin when Twinleaf was blocked for 8 months. Her character was apparent in those days. I assume that character and her training in admin matters continues to guide her decisions. Suggesting her motivation was personal friction with another is way out of line. Perhaps she should push the snitch button on the poster who suggested it.
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Posted by HomelyCygnet on January 19, 2014, at 11:48:50
In reply to Re: Maybe Sinderheart was just reverting to form » HomelyCygnet, posted by SLS on January 19, 2014, at 11:36:52
Posted by HomelyCygnet on January 19, 2014, at 11:49:54
In reply to Hi Bob Playing with your forum ? :) (nm) » SLS, posted by HomelyCygnet on January 19, 2014, at 11:48:50
Posted by HomelyCygnet on January 19, 2014, at 12:01:58
In reply to Re: blocked for 2 weeks, posted by Willful on January 19, 2014, at 11:36:50
Posted by Phillipa on January 19, 2014, at 15:00:09
In reply to Administrative editing. Out of context posts :( (nm), posted by HomelyCygnet on January 19, 2014, at 12:01:58
Long thread will ready later. Hope some problems solved!!!
Posted by HomelyCygnet on January 19, 2014, at 15:48:49
In reply to Re: Administrative editing. Out of context posts :(, posted by Phillipa on January 19, 2014, at 15:00:09
Posted by Phillipa on January 19, 2014, at 18:05:32
In reply to Re: Administrative editing. Out of context posts :(, posted by Phillipa on January 19, 2014, at 15:00:09
You are so welcome. Your wish is my command.
Posted by HomelyCygnet on January 19, 2014, at 23:35:53
In reply to Redirect: preventing the loss of Twinleaf, posted by Dr. Bob on January 19, 2014, at 11:46:07
by taking things out of context?
> > Back to administrative matters
> >
> > What can be done to prevent the loss of Twinny to the board?
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> I'd like to redirect follow-ups regarding preventing the loss of Twinleaf to a separate thread. Here's a link:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20131217/msgs/1058993.html
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> Thanks,
>
> Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 20, 2014, at 0:01:53
In reply to Re: deja vu all over again » SLS, posted by sigismund on January 19, 2014, at 11:36:49
> I meant that she seems to have been treated more severely than others by Bob. Just that.
That may be true. And it may be necessary. But maybe not. I'll try to keep an open mind about it.
Bob
Posted by Willful on January 20, 2014, at 1:43:34
In reply to This is confusing You're changing the message, posted by HomelyCygnet on January 19, 2014, at 23:35:53
I don't understand what's going on here.
My post was in direct response to one of Bob's, which now is completely missing from this thread. My comments therefore refer to no one-- and this "he" now has no referent.
So my post seems pretty incoherent wouldn't you say?
What is all this moving of posts around, anyway?
What's the point?
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 21, 2014, at 4:23:11
In reply to Re: This is confusing You're changing the message, posted by Willful on January 20, 2014, at 1:43:34
> My post was in direct response to one of Bob's, which now is completely missing from this thread. My comments therefore refer to no one-- and this "he" now has no referent.
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> What is all this moving of posts around, anyway?I was trying to keep one discussion from hijacking another (without shutting it down). But I see now I may have done it backwards. Maybe I should've left the administrative posts and moved the "nice things" posts.
Still, referents should still be clear. For example:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20131217/msgs/1059015.html
was "in reply to":
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/psycho/20131211/msgs/1057674.html
Bob
Posted by Twinleaf on January 21, 2014, at 9:05:59
In reply to Re: deja vu all over again, posted by Dr. Bob on January 20, 2014, at 0:01:53
Why would you think it necessary to single me out for especially severe blocks? I am aware that you have felt this way about me for at least the last five years. I feel that the only thing I have done during this time is to say that I did not approve of the very severe blocking policies of 2007, and, more recently, that I did not think an unmoderated forum worked well either. During unmoderated times, there has been an increase in destructive comments and a progressive loss of the most valuable part of Babble - a core of trusting, sharing posters. All this time, I have argued for a relatively minimal, flexible type of monitoring , of a kind that would keep this place
relatively safe and supportive for all those seeking support, understanding and information, and which would not be excessively demanding of your time. During the time I have been here, I have developed a number of relationships here which were meaningful, helpful and supportive; although many of those posters are now gone, I have not forgotten what they meant to me. Any differences that I have had with others were relatively minor and not difficult to resolve. When I have disagreed with your administrative policies, I know that I have still treated you with courtesy and respect.Because of this, it is impossible for me to understand why you
would consider me threatening in any way, and why you would single me out for uniquely harsh treatment. I have put up with it in the past because of the value Babble had in my life, but, at this point, your conduct towards me has become the most decisive factor. I feel that your attitude is inappropriate in a forum devoted to mental health; it is completely unacceptable to me.
Posted by SLS on January 21, 2014, at 14:20:32
In reply to Re: deja vu all over again » Dr. Bob, posted by Twinleaf on January 21, 2014, at 9:05:59
Please don't go away.
- Scott
Posted by Partlycloudy on January 21, 2014, at 14:31:10
In reply to Re: deja vu all over again » Twinleaf, posted by SLS on January 21, 2014, at 14:20:32
Ditto - we need you.
Posted by Twinleaf on January 22, 2014, at 21:35:02
In reply to Re: deja vu all over again, posted by Partlycloudy on January 21, 2014, at 14:31:10
Thanks, PC and SLS - I really appreciate your support.
Just in recent times, several posters have sworn at Bob and called him extremely insulting names, and yet they were not even given civility warnings. The only thing I did was point out that it was a lack of respect and appreciation on Bob's part for Dinah's really major efforts in carrying out his blocking policies five years ago that caused her to feel so angry and unappreciated that she finally blocked herself. During the time she was hoping for support, Bob asked her whether she had PTSD, and when she grew angry, he inquired what her blood pressure might be. These are very cold comments to make to such a long-time, central member of our community. I think that if her very natural need for appreciation had been met by Bob even slightly, she would still be with us.
This entire exchange is right here; it is recent. Most everyone has probably read it. I do not think I should have been blocked for simply calling attention to it. We all have the right, as people moving towards increasing mental health, to expect fair, positive responses from our administrator - just as he expects them from us.
If I am blocked again for something like this, I will never visit this forum again.
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 23, 2014, at 4:14:59
In reply to Re: deja vu all over again, posted by Twinleaf on January 22, 2014, at 21:35:02
> Why would you think it necessary to single me out for especially severe blocks?
1. I don't see them as especially severe. They follow the guidelines. Which I've been exhorted to follow, and which I do in general try to follow.
2. I haven't shown you leniency, that's true. I guess I'm not sure how else to respond to your pattern of actions, so I fall back on policy.
Would you like to suggest an alternative? Would you like me to allow you to take the lead, stay with whatever feelings you have, not ask questions or change the subject, and not analyze or interpret?
3. Do you have a theory as to why I respond to you the way I do? Is it that I consider you threatening?
> it is impossible for me to understand why you would consider me threatening in any way
Even now, fresh from a block:
> a lack of respect and appreciation on Bob's part
> very cold comments
Could you please rephrase those?
> If I am blocked again for something like this, I will never visit this forum again.
If you keep posting things like that, and I can't think of a better way to respond, I'll keep blocking you. Are we a rock and a hard place?
Bob
Posted by HomelyCygnet on January 23, 2014, at 6:40:29
In reply to Re: please rephrase that » Twinleaf, posted by Dr. Bob on January 23, 2014, at 4:14:59
"Bob You are not a therapist here. You are a racist whore with a huge huge huge butt. "
Hope this helps. Sorry he's doing this to you Twinleaf. I think along with NPD perhaps he's a psychopath. Leaving would probably be in your best interest. Maybe you could find another blog or forum to meet up with your friends? He's an ungrateful little man. You helped a lot of people here and were always gracious and generous.
Bye
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> Would you like to suggest an alternative? Would you like me to allow you to take the lead, stay with whatever feelings you have, not ask questions or change the subject, and not analyze or interpret?
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> 3. Do you have a theory as to why I respond to you the way I do? Is it that I consider you threatening?
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> > it is impossible for me to understand why you would consider me threatening in any way
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> Even now, fresh from a block:
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> > a lack of respect and appreciation on Bob's part
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> > very cold comments
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> Could you please rephrase those?
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> > If I am blocked again for something like this, I will never visit this forum again.
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> If you keep posting things like that, and I can't think of a better way to respond, I'll keep blocking you. Are we a rock and a hard place?
>
> Bob
Posted by Emme_V2 on January 23, 2014, at 6:46:06
In reply to Re: please rephrase that » Twinleaf, posted by Dr. Bob on January 23, 2014, at 4:14:59
> > Why would you think it necessary to single me out for especially severe blocks?
>
> 1. I don't see them as especially severe. They follow the guidelines. Which I've been exhorted to follow, and which I do in general try to follow.
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> 2. I haven't shown you leniency, that's true. I guess I'm not sure how else to respond to your pattern of actions, so I fall back on policy.
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> Would you like to suggest an alternative? Would you like me to allow you to take the lead, stay with whatever feelings you have, not ask questions or change the subject, and not analyze or interpret?
>
> 3. Do you have a theory as to why I respond to you the way I do? Is it that I consider you threatening?
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> > it is impossible for me to understand why you would consider me threatening in any way
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> Even now, fresh from a block:
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> > a lack of respect and appreciation on Bob's part
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> > very cold comments
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> Could you please rephrase those?
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> > If I am blocked again for something like this, I will never visit this forum again.
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> If you keep posting things like that, and I can't think of a better way to respond, I'll keep blocking you. Are we a rock and a hard place?
>
> BobBob,
I support Twinleaf's post above, and I disagree with yours. I do not perceive Twinleaf's post as uncivil or disrespectful at all, just as I did not believe the post for which you previously blocked her was uncivil. I do hope you will reconsider what you are writing.
emme
Posted by Partlycloudy on January 23, 2014, at 8:19:33
In reply to Re: please rephrase that » Dr. Bob, posted by Emme_V2 on January 23, 2014, at 6:46:06
I agree with Emme. Please show Twinleaf the same leniency as you are showing others (including myself).
Thank you.
PC
Posted by HomelyCygnet on January 23, 2014, at 9:51:42
In reply to Re: please rephrase that » Twinleaf, posted by Dr. Bob on January 23, 2014, at 4:14:59
> you like me to allow you to take the lead, stay with whatever feelings you have, not ask questions or change the subject, and not analyze or interpret?
>Why are you using twinleaf's words describing therapy?
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/psycho/20131211/msgs/1059259.htmlBob you are not a therapist here. This is beginning to border on creepy as well as inappropriate.
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