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Posted by Kath on November 2, 2009, at 22:20:04
In reply to Re: I think it's important to realize » Kath, posted by cactus on November 2, 2009, at 21:49:34
> Yes Kath, that is exactly what's happening, Bob actually conceded that point in an above post. Peace Kath, that's what had upset me so much, but I have calmed down now.
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> If you click on a tweet on tiny (Psyco Babel's Twitter Homepage) and you have responded to that tweet in babble, it then links straight back to psychobabble and the thread in babble you have responded to, and your name does appear. C
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> That's all I have been trying to say all along and I don't like it.So that's on the "psycho Babel Twitter Homepage". Do you know if the same thing happens if someone puts a post on their Twitter or Facebook site???
I don't like it either.
Kath
Posted by Kath on November 2, 2009, at 22:25:05
In reply to Re: I think it's important to realize » Kath, posted by Dinah on November 2, 2009, at 17:44:57
> If someone follows the link, they'll reach babble where your post will show. It won't actually show on Twitter or Facebook.
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> I don't like this whole idea more than your average babbler, but I think it's important for people to understand what is and isn't happening.Okay - point taken.
I agree that it's important for people to understand what is & isn't happening. I also think it's important for person X to know that removing the buttons from posts in person X's name does not mean that their posts won't be seen if someone clicks on a post on T or FB & person X has written a post on that thread.
Kath
PS - unless I'm wrong.
Posted by rskontos on November 3, 2009, at 21:01:36
In reply to Re: another cycle » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on November 2, 2009, at 14:30:30
Well said dinah, as always.
rsk
Posted by antigua3 on November 8, 2009, at 19:27:32
In reply to Re: involuntary tweet / facebook options? » antigua3, posted by Dinah on November 2, 2009, at 17:48:03
Posted by okydoky on December 15, 2009, at 19:07:53
In reply to Re: tweet / facebook options, posted by Dr. Bob on October 27, 2009, at 4:59:06
I am curious after reading through this entire thread if this is "Bob's" ENTIRE answer to all the questions about why... Facebook/Twitter ?
***Like you, however, Facebook and Twitter users are real people who can benefit from support and education. Sharing and tweeting might lead them to the many thoughtful and intelligent posts here, and then they might join Babble and contribute new perspectives and energy. I think good can come of this -- for current posters, for new posters, and for this community as a whole.***
***I don't think it would necessarily be sick, twisted, outrageous, or demeaning to share/tweet a post about suicidality or rape or abuse. People post in the first place because they're looking for support or information, and they're more likely to find it if more people see their post.
Bob***
Is this "YOUR" opinion and/or "YOUR" reasoning?
oky
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 10, 2010, at 2:11:10
In reply to Re: tweet / facebook options » Dr. Bob, posted by okydoky on December 15, 2009, at 19:07:53
> Is this "YOUR" opinion and/or "YOUR" reasoning?
Yes, I wouldn't have posted it otherwise...
Bob
Posted by jade k on July 17, 2010, at 7:56:55
Hi admin people :-)
I know you've probably covered this ad nauseum, but if you would humor me...I was gone when all this started.
I came across the page where I can select whether or not I want the tweet/share buttons on my posts. I selected no.
Does this mean that none of my posts will go to facebook and twitter? Or does it just mean I can't use those tools? Can you, and other posters share/tweet my posts to fb and twitter?
Dr. Bob, do I have the option to request/select that my posts not be moved to other sites? I'm really not looking for a debate, I just want to make sure I understand your current policies. I'm still catchin up.
Thanx in advance for your reply,
~Jade
Posted by Deneb on July 17, 2010, at 8:39:02
In reply to Dr. Bob or Deputy, FB/Tweet questions, posted by jade k on July 17, 2010, at 7:56:55
Hello Jade,
I'm not admin or a deputy, but I can answer your question.
> Does this mean that none of my posts will go to facebook and twitter?
It means people can't put your posts on their facebook or twitter via the buttons, but there is nothing to stop people from copy and pasting your post onto any site on the web (as is the case with any forum). Since you turned the buttons off, it means there is no button for people to impulsively tweet or facebook your posts.
> Or does it just mean I can't use those tools?
It means you and others can't tweet or facebook your posts via the buttons. Other people don't see the buttons on your posts too.
> Can you, and other posters share/tweet my posts to fb and twitter?
Anyone on the Internet can share/tweet your posts to facebook and twitter by just copy and pasting, just like with any other site on the Internet. Without the buttons however, people are not given an option to impulsively do so.
> Dr. Bob, do I have the option to request/select that my posts not be moved to other sites?
Getting rid of the buttons means Dr. Bob won't tweet or share your posts on Facebook. It also tells other posters that you do not want your posts to be tweeted or shared, but in theory there is no way to prevent others from copy and pasting your posts onto other sites, as is the case with anything online.
Posted by jade k on July 17, 2010, at 8:56:11
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob or Deputy, FB/Tweet questions, posted by Deneb on July 17, 2010, at 8:39:02
Hey Deneb,
Dr. Bob needs to sign you on. Thank you for the clear and complete post, I wasn't expecting that so fast. No further response is needed :-)
~Jade
ps-I feel better now, my posts aren't worth cutting and pasting...
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 17, 2010, at 15:01:42
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob or Deputy, FB/Tweet questions, posted by Deneb on July 17, 2010, at 8:39:02
> > Or does it just mean I can't use those tools?
>
> It means you and others can't tweet or facebook your posts via the buttons. Other people don't see the buttons on your posts too.But you can still use those tools on other posts (when those posters leave them turned on).
> ps-I feel better now, my posts aren't worth cutting and pasting...
Are your questions worth answering? Sharing or tweeting your posts could help you get your questions answered.
And of course assuming your posts aren't worth cutting and pasting could be seen as an example of the LWE. :-)
Bob
Posted by jade k on July 17, 2010, at 16:22:48
In reply to Re: FB/Tweet questions, posted by Dr. Bob on July 17, 2010, at 15:01:42
> > > Or does it just mean I can't use those tools?
> >
> > It means you and others can't tweet or facebook your posts via the buttons. Other people don't see the buttons on your posts too.
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> But you can still use those tools on other posts (when those posters leave them turned on).
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> > ps-I feel better now, my posts aren't worth cutting and pasting...
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> Are your questions worth answering? Sharing or tweeting your posts could help you get your questions answered.
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> And of course assuming your posts aren't worth cutting and pasting could be seen as an example of the LWE. :-)
>
> BobDr. Bob,
As always, with all due respect, do you often have to ask yourself if a person is joking or not? Feel like maybe you dont "get" certain kinds of humor? (just as I have never gotten yours?)
"ps-I feel better now, my posts aren't worth cutting and pasting..."
Anyone who knows me would know I was kidding. I was just relieved that I'd made it more difficult for people to send my posts to sites [where I know people!] I know that doesn't make you happy, but it was my choice.
> Are your questions worth answering? Sharing or tweeting your posts {{could help you}} get your questions answered.
Yes, and no thank you. I do just fine.
> And of course assuming your posts aren't worth cutting and pasting could be seen as an example of the LWE. :-)
And of course, here we go again. You don't know me Dr. Bob. Please stop looking for ways to prove that my self worth is flawed in some way. YOU may not like me, and I'm okay with that. Can't please everyone, right? Please know that my sense of self esteem is strongly in tact :-)
"Poor Jade, she was once so proud to be a babbler, ohh, woe be her!"
see? joking.
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 19, 2010, at 15:21:23
In reply to Re: FB/Tweet questions » Dr. Bob, posted by jade k on July 17, 2010, at 16:22:48
> > ps-I feel better now, my posts aren't worth cutting and pasting...
>
> Anyone who knows me would know I was kidding.Sorry, I guess I don't know you, at least not well enough.
Bob
Posted by jade k on July 19, 2010, at 15:49:41
In reply to Re: kidding » jade k, posted by Dr. Bob on July 19, 2010, at 15:21:23
> > ps-I feel better now, my posts aren't worth cutting and pasting...
>
\(Bob) Are your questions worth answering? Sharing or tweeting your posts could help you get your questions answered.
(Bob) And of course assuming your posts aren't worth cutting and pasting could be seen as an example of the LWE. :-)Dr. Bob,
You are repeatedly posting the LWBehere (its old), in addition, you are repeatedly trying to point out what you must perceive to be my weaknesses.
I'm curious as to why you are doing this. Clearly in this thread you are upset that I declined to have access to my posts via the fb and tweet buttons.
Is this what its all about? Because I had a look at the Facebook page...I can see why you are upset with me, and maybe with babblers as we are not using the links.
I really don't like the way you are treating me. In addition, you moved the posts around so that the point and rating system discussion fell back onto Deneb (she felt/feels). Why would you do that?
~Jade
Posted by sigismund on July 19, 2010, at 21:56:09
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob or Deputy, FB/Tweet questions, posted by Deneb on July 17, 2010, at 8:39:02
How do I know if my posts can be Facebooked or Tweeted?
I have't clicked any buttons in the control function of Babble (whatever it is called and wherever it is).
Posted by Dinah on July 19, 2010, at 22:03:15
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob or Deputy, FB/Tweet questions, posted by sigismund on July 19, 2010, at 21:56:09
You must have opted out at some point.
If you look at the bottom of your posts, you won't see the Facebook/Twitter items you would see if you look at a post of Dr. Bob's (for example).
Posted by fayeroe on July 19, 2010, at 22:43:38
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob or Deputy, FB/Tweet questions, posted by sigismund on July 19, 2010, at 21:56:09
Posted by emme on July 20, 2010, at 5:38:06
In reply to Re: FB/Tweet questions, posted by Dr. Bob on July 17, 2010, at 15:01:42
If I understand correctly, your post can still be effectively tweeted/facebooked if someone includes your original post in a reply and *their* buttons are turned on.
So once the thread gets going, if people are including previous posts in their replies, opting out of the buttons becomes almost meaningless.
Do I have that right? This is one reason I rarely post here even though I disabled the buttons for my own posts.
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 20, 2010, at 11:16:48
In reply to Re: FB/Tweet questions, posted by emme on July 20, 2010, at 5:38:06
> If I understand correctly, your post can still be effectively tweeted/facebooked if someone includes your original post in a reply and *their* buttons are turned on.
It depends what you mean by "effectively". Your post wouldn't be included, at least not by default:
> By default, sharing/tweeting includes the subject line and the URL of the post. In the case of Facebook, it also includes the beginning of the post (the same "preview", which excludes quoted text, that you get when you mouse over a link to it here). In both cases, people can edit before they submit.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20090813/msgs/922824.html
But clicking on the URL would show their whole post, which would in this case include your post. And even if they didn't include your post, there would be the "in reply to" link, so your post would be one more click away.
Which IMO isn't so different than Google.
Bob
Posted by fayeroe on July 20, 2010, at 11:35:37
In reply to Re: FB/Tweet questions, posted by Dr. Bob on July 20, 2010, at 11:16:48
Posted by sigismund on July 20, 2010, at 15:07:40
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob or Deputy, FB/Tweet questions » sigismund, posted by Dinah on July 19, 2010, at 22:03:15
>If you look at the bottom of your posts, you won't see the Facebook/Twitter items you would see if you look at a post of Dr. Bob's (for example).
Yes, and since I see none with your post, I can assume you have opted out too?
I should be able to get this under my belt by and by.
Posted by jade k on July 20, 2010, at 15:14:20
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob or Deputy, FB/Tweet questions » Dinah, posted by sigismund on July 20, 2010, at 15:07:40
> >If you look at the bottom of your posts, you won't see the Facebook/Twitter items you would see if you look at a post of Dr. Bob's (for example).
>
> Yes, and since I see none with your post, I can assume you have opted out too?
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> I should be able to get this under my belt by and by.Hey Sigi,
read emme's post. I opted out my first post back, and Bob still posted 2 of my posts (both embarressing) on twitter. Hope this gets to you, I'm about to be blocked,
See ya,
Jade
Posted by sigismund on July 20, 2010, at 15:35:55
In reply to Re: FB/T*depends on the definition of 'is'*Bob (nm), posted by fayeroe on July 20, 2010, at 11:35:37
Can you say different than?
Posted by fayeroe on July 20, 2010, at 15:39:25
In reply to Re: FB/T*depends on the definition of 'is'*Bob » fayeroe, posted by sigismund on July 20, 2010, at 15:35:55
I was referring to President Clinton saying "it depends upon what the definition of "is" is" during his "I did not have sex with that woman" period.
You can say anything you choose but please keep it civil. :-)
Posted by Dinah on July 20, 2010, at 18:48:42
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob or Deputy, FB/Tweet questions » Dinah, posted by sigismund on July 20, 2010, at 15:07:40
Yes, I opted out.
I never particularly minded *Dr. Bob* tweeting me because I'd know who, how, and more or less why.
I didn't like the idea of being tweeted with my only knowledge being the counter next to the icon. While I know it could be done in other ways, it just made me feel uncomfortable to have a blanket invitation at the bottom of my posts. And the counter would have driven me insane (or more insane).
Posted by violette on July 20, 2010, at 20:47:10
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob or Deputy, FB/Tweet questions, posted by Deneb on July 17, 2010, at 8:39:02
NO ONE has the incentive to take my posts, or the posts of anyone else here-and repeatedly cut and paste them to other sites, non-mental health sites like Facebook and Twitter, commonly used for news, entertainment, gossip, evesdropping, social drama, or whatever.
It is NOT the same thing.
Dr. Bob is the only one who has a reason to do this, and people here have said over, and over, and over...that they do NOT like it.
It seems that most of the people who do not like it just quit posting here, or rarely post anymore-same as what I am doing.
It is NOT the same thing. Just because it *can* be done "in theory" does not mean anyone *would* have the time or reason to do it. The ONLY reason it is being done is because Dr. Bob chooses to do this.
"but in theory there is no way to prevent others from copy and pasting your posts onto other sites, as is the case with anything online."
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