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Posted by muffled on January 21, 2007, at 16:11:10
In reply to Re: how to make the newbies feel even more welcome, posted by Dr. Bob on January 21, 2007, at 15:03:43
> Did you try the main Withdrawal home page? The indicators (yellow as well as green) only show there.I didn't know that i just clicked on links
> Well, if someone's first post is within a thread, it's still their first post. And people who don't know much about that topic could still welcome them, couldn't they?
Of course they could welcome them. I would expect those within that thread to welcome them? Or even the poster responsible for that particular thread? Not that they HAVE to be, but I kinda would think it would be nice.
I personally might be kinda weirded if someone came to me and welcomed me out of the blue?
I also concerned bout follow up. Its all very well and good to come up and say welcome, but then abandon them?
I struggle with consistancy IRL.
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> > Are you just gonna list those pertaining to that particular board? or posts all over when you make your lists?
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> I don't know, it was just a preliminary idea. Do you think one way would be better? How do you think newbies would feel about being listed?I dunno how it is w/others, but when I babbling I stick to one board primarily.....
As for new people being listed, hmmm, well, mebbe you could b-mail people bout a newbie you have noticed on a board frequented by the poster? Tho how you gonna notice it I dunno. You read everything?
I am inconsistant.
You can't rely on me unless specifically asked bout something.
Sorry, I'm a little bamboozled right now. Dunno why. Or care particularly. Just responding cuz I think welcoming IS a good thing.
Just having seen this thread has raised my awareness anyhow bout watching out for that stuff. Mebbe we just need a reminder from time to time?
Posted by muffled on January 21, 2007, at 16:25:49
In reply to Re: how to make the newbies feel even more welcome, posted by muffled on January 21, 2007, at 16:11:10
If a poster has changed their name do they get a green new indicator? Even tho they are NOT new?
That would be VERY embarassing to me if I went and welcomed someone and they were not actually new.
They should not have a green new indicator if they are NOT in fact new.
Posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on January 21, 2007, at 19:46:04
In reply to One more thing, posted by muffled on January 21, 2007, at 16:25:49
> If a poster has changed their name do they get a green new indicator? Even tho they are NOT new?
> That would be VERY embarassing to me if I went and welcomed someone and they were not actually new.
> They should not have a green new indicator if they are NOT in fact new.mufflie,
sometimes a poster needs to make a clean fresh new start. In that case, they should have a little green flag just like everyone else. (they can use their green flag to mark their territory on the admin board: I used to post under a different name)That's what I've done.
p.s. if you welcomed an old poster, that's not so embarrassing-- it's good manners, and is a pleasant surprise. Your welcome is not a burden at all.
p.p.s. Welcome to my post Muffled, so nice to see you around. I wish there were more of you. (in a sentimental sense, not a DID sense...)
Posted by muffled on January 21, 2007, at 22:53:02
In reply to Re: One more thing » muffled, posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on January 21, 2007, at 19:46:04
> mufflie,
> sometimes a poster needs to make a clean fresh new start. In that case, they should have a little green flag just like everyone else. (they can use their green flag to mark their territory on the admin board: I used to post under a different name)
>
> That's what I've done.
>
> p.s. if you welcomed an old poster, that's not so embarrassing-- it's good manners, and is a pleasant surprise. Your welcome is not a burden at all.
>
> p.p.s. Welcome to my post Muffled, so nice to see you around. I wish there were more of you. (in a sentimental sense, not a DID sense...)Guess its just me, i get embarrased bout not remembering people irl, so i kinda got a thing about it is all.
I just about gutted myself laughing at your pps! Thx I REALLY needed a laugh :)
Thx LL
Muffled
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 22, 2007, at 12:05:51
In reply to Re: how to make the newbies feel even more welcome, posted by muffled on January 21, 2007, at 16:11:10
> > Well, if someone's first post is within a thread, it's still their first post. And people who don't know much about that topic could still welcome them, couldn't they?
>
> Of course they could welcome them. I would expect those within that thread to welcome them? Or even the poster responsible for that particular thread? Not that they HAVE to be, but I kinda would think it would be nice.I do, too, but it doesn't always happen...
> I personally might be kinda weirded if someone came to me and welcomed me out of the blue?
> I also concerned bout follow up. Its all very well and good to come up and say welcome, but then abandon them?I agree, but better to be welcomed out of the blue, or welcomed without follow-up, than not to be welcomed at all?
> As for new people being listed, hmmm, well, mebbe you could b-mail people bout a newbie you have noticed on a board frequented by the poster? Tho how you gonna notice it I dunno. You read everything?
In theory, I could get the server to do it. But who would be babblemailed? Should I ask for volunteers? That would be like having greeters for each board... And if they do frequent the board, they should already be seeing the green indicators.
> Just having seen this thread has raised my awareness anyhow bout watching out for that stuff. Mebbe we just need a reminder from time to time?
A reminder here, like this? Or at the top of each board? Thanks for your input on this,
Bob
Posted by muffled on January 22, 2007, at 13:02:49
In reply to Re: how to help the newbies feel even more welcome, posted by Dr. Bob on January 22, 2007, at 12:05:51
> I agree, but better to be welcomed out of the blue, or welcomed without follow-up, than not to be welcomed at all?
**Perhaps...
But what would be considered appropriate?
'Hi, welcome to babble, my name is muffled, nice to meet you?' I dunno. Thats soiunds kinda lame....?
I hate to be too long winded cuz that'd seem weird.....?
> In theory, I could get the server to do it. But who would be babblemailed? Should I ask for volunteers? That would be like having greeters for each board... And if they do frequent the board, they should already be seeing the green indicators.**Well, I would volunteer for one board. Don't seem to onerous a job. Not like being a deputy, ugh.
Seeing and remembering to go back...
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> > Just having seen this thread has raised my awareness anyhow bout watching out for that stuff. Mebbe we just need a reminder from time to time?
>
> A reminder here, like this? Or at the top of each board? Thanks for your input on this,*I am inclined to think more crapola on the top of the board is just gonna get missed. Too much. I just zoom past it all.
Mebbe just a reminder thread on admin now and again...
Posted by Dinah on January 22, 2007, at 14:20:33
In reply to Re: how to help the newbies feel even more welcome, posted by muffled on January 22, 2007, at 13:02:49
Sometimes on Psychology it seems like people specifically welcome. But sometimes they just respond and may or may not add a welcome at the bottom. Most posts do get responded to there, and on Social.
Maybe the other boards get more specific questions, and if people don't have the answer they don't think of saying "Hi, I don't have the answer, but I hope you find it here." or something like that?
I know I'd be at a loss to answer a specific medication question if I didn't have a blessed clue as to the answer.
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 22, 2007, at 19:18:06
In reply to Re: how to help the newbies feel even more welcome, posted by Dinah on January 22, 2007, at 14:20:33
> But what would be considered appropriate?
> 'Hi, welcome to babble, my name is muffled, nice to meet you?' I dunno. Thats soiunds kinda lame....?I don't know, it sounds OK to me. :-)
> Well, I would volunteer for one board. Don't seem to onerous a job. Not like being a deputy, ugh.
> Seeing and remembering to go back...Great! Which board would you like?
> I am inclined to think more crapola on the top of the board is just gonna get missed. Too much. I just zoom past it all.
> Mebbe just a reminder thread on admin now and again...
>
> muffledI thought that, too, but OTOH what if people from that board don't come to this board?
> Sometimes on Psychology it seems like people specifically welcome. But sometimes they just respond and may or may not add a welcome at the bottom. Most posts do get responded to there, and on Social.
>
> DinahI think a response without a specific welcome might be even better, but anything would be better than nothing...
Bob
Posted by Phillipa on January 22, 2007, at 19:38:04
In reply to Re: how to help the newbies feel even more welcome, posted by Dr. Bob on January 22, 2007, at 19:18:06
I know I've been criticized for this but if I don't recognize a posting name I will answer the post only if it's to acknowledge that someone has seen the post and even if I have no knowledge of the question. It feels bad to be totally ignored. Love Phillipa
Posted by muffled on January 22, 2007, at 22:23:59
In reply to Re: how to help the newbies feel even more welcome, posted by Dr. Bob on January 22, 2007, at 19:18:06
> > Well, I would volunteer for one board. Don't seem to onerous a job. Not like being a deputy, ugh.
> Great! Which board would you like?
**:-) Guess...and its NOT Admin.......3 guesses and you out!
> I thought that, too, but OTOH what if people from that board don't come to this board?
**mebbe spam all the boards w/the same reminder post?
You could have the header 'Just a reminder babblers.....' and then a generic reminder post.
but anything would be better than nothing...
>
> Bob**Ewwwww, agree again, somethings definately better than nothing.
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 24, 2007, at 0:00:59
In reply to Welcomes, posted by muffled on January 22, 2007, at 22:23:59
> I know I've been criticized for this but if I don't recognize a posting name I will answer the post only if it's to acknowledge that someone has seen the post and even if I have no knowledge of the question. It feels bad to be totally ignored.
>
> PhillipaThanks for responding to people!
> > > Well, I would volunteer for one board. Don't seem to onerous a job. Not like being a deputy, ugh.
>
> > Great! Which board would you like?
>
> :-) Guess...and its NOT Admin.......3 guesses and you out!I'm no good at guessing, could you just tell me? :-)
> > I thought that, too, but OTOH what if people from that board don't come to this board?
>
> mebbe spam all the boards w/the same reminder post?
> You could have the header 'Just a reminder babblers.....' and then a generic reminder post.
>
> muffledHmm, that's an idea. Maybe each time they roll over?
Bob
Posted by muffled on January 24, 2007, at 0:43:53
In reply to Re: Welcomes, posted by Dr. Bob on January 24, 2007, at 0:00:59
> I'm no good at guessing, could you just tell me? :-)
**psychology
> Hmm, that's an idea. Maybe each time they roll over?* maybe, dunno how often that is, too often and its just gonna get ignored. Mebbe only quarterly would be enough.
I'm getting that surreal lab rat feeling again......
Is this an excercise in empowerment?
Posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on January 24, 2007, at 7:37:14
In reply to Re: Welcomes, posted by muffled on January 24, 2007, at 0:43:53
> > I'm no good at guessing, could you just tell me? :-)
>
> **psychology
>
> > Hmm, that's an idea. Maybe each time they roll over?
>
> * maybe, dunno how often that is, too often and its just gonna get ignored. Mebbe only quarterly would be enough.
>
> I'm getting that surreal lab rat feeling again......
> Is this an excercise in empowerment?Muffled,
you must have been a lab rat in a previous life.
((((((Mufflie)))))))why the @#$%&(! am I up so early?
Dr. Bob can I volunteer to welcome folks too? I would like to be a volunteer on the Students board. I guess I will have to study up on how to redirect threads, though...
let me know if you think that's a good idea.
happy wednesday,
Ll
Posted by 10derHeart on January 24, 2007, at 13:50:19
In reply to Re: Welcomes, posted by muffled on January 24, 2007, at 0:43:53
hey muffy,
Not to sound like Dr. Bob and answer a question with a question [ ;-) ] but, couldn't it just be you and Dr. Bob are just having a talk? A chat? A discussion between two people who are interested and invested in the same idea/thing (Babble)?
No exercises. No experiments. Just talking?
I'm just thinking out loud here. I'm just wondering, and hoping you never feel like it would *have* to be some agenda, or exercise for Dr. Bob to discuss a topic with you. Not saying you do or don't - *at all.* Because I don't know.
But I do know you are as important and valuable as anyone else - and I do mean *anyone* - for Dr. Bob to talk with about Babble issues.
And I believe (though I suppose some might argue I can't *know* this 100%) Dr. Bob very much likes to hear all Babblers thoughts and ideas on stuff like this, just for their own sake. Plain and simple. Because many heads are usually better than one and he's genuinely interested. Not as part of a bigger plan or exercise or agenda on his part, i.e., the I'm-now-performing-a-psychological-test-on-muffled sort of thing.
Not that you accused him of that or anything, but you asked in a way that got me wondering how these exchanges are viewed by us (when we are part of them) and others reading them (me this time)
I just felt the need to say that. Hope it's okay.
You are the coolest, muffy.
Posted by muffled on January 24, 2007, at 14:11:32
In reply to Re: Welcomes » muffled, posted by 10derHeart on January 24, 2007, at 13:50:19
> hey muffy,
**Hey 10der!
>
> Not to sound like Dr. Bob and answer a question with a question [ ;-) ] but, couldn't it just be you and Dr. Bob are just having a talk? A chat? A discussion between two people who are interested and invested in the same idea/thing (Babble)?**yes, I guess its possible. Its just when Bob says stuff sometimes, I guess its the wording? Sigh, mebbe just me and my damn stuff. I just have no clue who I am sometimes. But I can't beleive on some level that he would converse w/the likes of me unless there was some useful agenda beyond my dumb opinion.
>
> No exercises. No experiments. Just talking?**Well, I guess this is where my wonder about what the hell Bobs motivation is....WHY does he devote so much time to babble when he's a successful educated professional person? And I would like to think its just cuz he cares, but at the same time I can't quite beleive that, I always worried there's some other motive,a hidden agenda, and then that puts me on alert. Cuz lotsa times stuffs not what it might seem. Call me paranoid I guess. It IS interesting, there is so little I know of myself.
>
> I'm just thinking out loud here. I'm just wondering, and hoping you never feel like it would *have* to be some agenda, or exercise for Dr. Bob to discuss a topic with you. Not saying you do or don't - *at all.* Because I don't know.**LOL, see above.
>
> But I do know you are as important and valuable as anyone else - and I do mean *anyone* - for Dr. Bob to talk with about Babble issues.**I guess so. But I just a bum, and not very smart, and when Bob keeps talking to me like I got something to say thats useful or something I guess i just get weirded.
>
> And I believe (though I suppose some might argue I can't *know* this 100%) Dr. Bob very much likes to hear all Babblers thoughts and ideas on stuff like this, just for their own sake. Plain and simple. Because many heads are usually better than one and he's genuinely interested. Not as part of a bigger plan or exercise or agenda on his part, i.e., the I'm-now-performing-a-psychological-test-on-muffled sort of thing.**He DOES seem to care.....but he IS a scientist.....
>
> Not that you accused him of that or anything, but you asked in a way that got me wondering how these exchanges are viewed by us (when we are part of them) and others reading them (me this time)**I am terribly mean to Bob, and sometimes I am nice. He is always nice to me.
But I got diff parts, and sometimes I guess theres a problem for me. Mostly I do OK though.
>
> I just felt the need to say that. Hope it's okay.**:-) Of course its Ok. I value honesty and the ability to speak up as HUGE good qualities in a person. Takes guts. I admire guts. You my cyber friend 10der, I would not EVER get mad at you.(and if i did it wouldn't be for long!!!!;-)
>
> You are the coolest, muffy.**And you 10der are way cool too.
And FYI MOST of me is OK w/Bob really. There is a part I trying to deal with thats very very afraid of him though.
((10der))
((Bob))-sorry if I hurt your feelingsMuffled
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 25, 2007, at 0:02:21
In reply to Re: Welcomes, posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on January 24, 2007, at 7:37:14
> psychology
OK, you're hired. :-)
> > Hmm, that's an idea. Maybe each time they roll over?
>
> maybe, dunno how often that is, too often and its just gonna get ignored. Mebbe only quarterly would be enough.The list of archives will give you an idea of how frequently that happens. I think at Psychology it's about every 2 weeks now? That would be too often?
> I'm getting that surreal lab rat feeling again......
> Is this an excercise in empowerment?
>
> muffledA lot of Babble is an exercise in empowerment. :-)
--
> Dr. Bob can I volunteer to welcome folks too? I would like to be a volunteer on the Students board.
That would be great, you're hired, too. :-)
> I guess I will have to study up on how to redirect threads, though...
>
> Llurpsie_NoodleThere are explanations in the archives, but it might also be useful to explain to newbies how to get to other boards and post there themselves...
Bob
Posted by muffled on January 25, 2007, at 9:47:56
In reply to Re: Welcomes, posted by Dr. Bob on January 25, 2007, at 0:02:21
> OK, you're hired. :-)
**So the server will notify me? Or I just go to be on alert? I liked the idea of an explanatory thing too, telling them a bit bout babble....
> The list of archives will give you an idea of how frequently that happens. I think at Psychology it's about every 2 weeks now? That would be too often?
**Well, I am starting to realize that my 'stuff' impedes my judgement/perceptions much more than I realized, but for ME, 2 wks would be WAY too often. Again, i think a quarterly reminder would be best IMHO.
>
> > I'm getting that surreal lab rat feeling again......
> > Is this an excercise in empowerment?
>
> A lot of Babble is an exercise in empowerment. :-)
>
**OK, thanks for you patience.
> That would be great, you're hired, too. :-)**HEY Lurpy we work in the same place LOL!!!! You are my fellow employee :)
> There are explanations in the archives, but it might also be useful to explain to newbies how to get to other boards and post there themselves...
**yeah, Lurpy, your good at writing stuff, mebbe you got some ideas on a list of stuff that might be good to say? I busy today, but I will think on it.
Muffled
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 26, 2007, at 0:04:10
In reply to Re: Welcomes, Lurpy/Bob, posted by muffled on January 25, 2007, at 9:47:56
> So the server will notify me? Or I just go to be on alert? I liked the idea of an explanatory thing too, telling them a bit bout babble....
Could you be on the alert? Thanks!
Bob
Posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on January 26, 2007, at 8:35:15
In reply to Re: Welcomes, Lurpy/Bob, posted by muffled on January 25, 2007, at 9:47:56
Lurpsie happily reporting for duty,
No need for pay- having muffled for a colleague is rewarding enough. Although I would appreciate a small stipend to cover my chocolate expenses. I will apply for a grant, perhaps. We'll see.
I even wrote 2 newbies on /Studs/ already AND I wrote a welcoming post.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/studs/20070113/msgs/726434.html
Yes, that's right. I'm on FIRE!
-Ll
Posted by muffled on January 26, 2007, at 9:46:19
In reply to Re: Welcomes, Lurpy/Bob » muffled, posted by Llurpsie_Noodle on January 26, 2007, at 8:35:15
Posted by zazenduckie on January 26, 2007, at 20:02:18
In reply to YAH! You da ONE Lurpy!!!!!!!YAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! (nm) » Llurpsie_Noodle, posted by muffled on January 26, 2007, at 9:46:19
My confidence has been undermined by my recent blocks and I am unable to welcome him/her for fear of finding myself blocked for 9 weeks if I say the wrong thing.
And so I alert the welcome committee!
Posted by muffled on January 26, 2007, at 21:09:23
In reply to Unanswered newby on Relationships!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by zazenduckie on January 26, 2007, at 20:02:18
I tried, I can't, its not my board , I feel weird and dumb, and I dunno answers to questions there. I think I will weird them out cuz I weirded.
Muffled
Posted by zazenduckie on January 27, 2007, at 7:35:16
In reply to Re: Unanswered newby on Relationships!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by muffled on January 26, 2007, at 21:09:23
Sorry. I didn't mean to pressure anyone in particular to answer.
And someone has answered now anyway.
You do plenty of good on the board Muffled.
I didn't feel able to answer either. That's why I posted here.
Maybe I should volunteer to welcome the new people to Admin! I could probably handle that. Since they are always people changing their names a nice response might be...."Thanks for letting us know"
Is that civil?
If so I volunteer as welcome person for the Admin board.
> I tried, I can't, its not my board , I feel weird and dumb, and I dunno answers to questions there. I think I will weird them out cuz I weirded.
> Muffled
Posted by muffled on January 27, 2007, at 9:25:23
In reply to Re: Answered now, posted by zazenduckie on January 27, 2007, at 7:35:16
Posted by Honore on January 27, 2007, at 10:48:59
In reply to Re: Answered now, posted by zazenduckie on January 27, 2007, at 7:35:16
You could be Charge D'Affaires for new people to the Admin Board-- or any board.
It's very considerate and welcoming of you, though, zen.
I don't feel that capable of welcoming someone adequately, but I'm occasionally willing to tilt at windmills. (Usually the windmill wins, as you know.)
Honore
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