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Posted by Dinah on June 4, 2006, at 17:01:24
Would you consider not including Babblemail in blocks, unless Babblemail has been abused?
I understand and appreciate the purpose behind including it. But Babble is a large part of some people's support system, and leaving Babblemail on might be helpful while still allowing the posting portion of the block to still be in effect.
I know that some people have exchanged email addresses, but other people haven't.
I can understand if you veto the idea. I really can. But it would be a kindness to leave it on, unless of course it is abused.
Posted by teejay on June 4, 2006, at 18:09:39
In reply to Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on June 4, 2006, at 17:01:24
I agree wholeheartedly with this idea.
To prevent someone from posting is one thing, but to effectively cut off their potential support network sounds rather dangerous to me.
Agree however that it may be necessary if there have been abuses by an individual.
Posted by MidnightBlue on June 4, 2006, at 21:33:01
In reply to Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on June 4, 2006, at 17:01:24
Not that anyone cares, but I agree. Dinah you expressed this well! I do not want to have to exchange email addresses and most appreciate Babblemail. A block for me would be a total ban. Many times I do not post my thoughts or ideas because I fear I will offend or break a rule. I've been here over a year and I still am afraid of being uncivil.
MidnightBlue
Posted by agent858 on June 4, 2006, at 23:12:25
In reply to Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on June 4, 2006, at 17:01:24
Good idea
Posted by muffled on June 4, 2006, at 23:14:15
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob » Dinah, posted by agent858 on June 4, 2006, at 23:12:25
Posted by Deneb on June 5, 2006, at 0:16:54
In reply to Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on June 4, 2006, at 17:01:24
Really great idea!
Some of us don't have e-mails of our friends. Some of us don't have friends who are not Babblers. Some of us don't socialize in real life. For some of us, Babble is the only support we get.
Blocking Babblemail is like solitary confinement.
Deneb*
Posted by llrrrpp on June 5, 2006, at 0:49:27
In reply to Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on June 4, 2006, at 17:01:24
Posted by Deneb on June 5, 2006, at 1:56:26
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob, posted by Deneb on June 5, 2006, at 0:16:54
Blocking babblemail *feels* like solitary confinement (to some of us).
Deneb*
Posted by Dinah on June 5, 2006, at 3:16:45
In reply to Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on June 4, 2006, at 17:01:24
Dr. Bob, as a secondary request, if you find that the first doesn't seem appropriate to you.
You currently allow posters to address blocked posters on board, even while you don't allow them to relay messages from blocked posters.
If you can't leave Babblemail on entirely, could you leave it on in a one way direction, so that posters can Babblemail the blocked poster and pass on email addresses or words of support if they wish?
Posted by greywolf on June 5, 2006, at 9:40:02
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob » Dinah, posted by Dinah on June 5, 2006, at 3:16:45
Given the plethora of sites out there, why not just designate a site where anyone who wants to keep up with those who are blocked can go with a surety that they'll find their blocked babble friends there? That way, no one's disappearing into the blue yonder, and while it wouldn't equate with the babble experience, it's not as sterile and boring as plain email.
Posted by ClearSkies on June 5, 2006, at 11:40:39
In reply to Why not just designate an exile island site?, posted by greywolf on June 5, 2006, at 9:40:02
> Given the plethora of sites out there, why not just designate a site where anyone who wants to keep up with those who are blocked can go with a surety that they'll find their blocked babble friends there? That way, no one's disappearing into the blue yonder, and while it wouldn't equate with the babble experience, it's not as sterile and boring as plain email.
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I did a search and found a Yahoo group that looks like it's meant for blocked babblers. I have no idea whether it's a current and ongoing group. But it does exist already. If it's not currently active, what would stop the new formation of such a group?
CS
Posted by Dinah on June 5, 2006, at 11:44:31
In reply to Re: Why not just designate an exile island site? » greywolf, posted by ClearSkies on June 5, 2006, at 11:40:39
I wouldn't call it an exile island site, but PsychCentral is a similar site to Babble I understand, where many current and former Babblers post?
Posted by ClearSkies on June 5, 2006, at 12:06:12
In reply to Re: Why not just designate an exile island site?, posted by Dinah on June 5, 2006, at 11:44:31
> I wouldn't call it an exile island site, but PsychCentral is a similar site to Babble I understand, where many current and former Babblers post?
Yes, but it's not a place where Babble and Trouble in Babbledom can be discussed except in the most vague of terms. In my experience.
CS
Posted by greywolf on June 5, 2006, at 12:10:04
In reply to Re: Why not just designate an exile island site?, posted by Dinah on June 5, 2006, at 11:44:31
> I wouldn't call it an exile island site, but PsychCentral is a similar site to Babble I understand, where many current and former Babblers post?
Well, by "exile island" I was simply alluding to the popular reality TV gimmick. No offense or disparagement was intended.
I do think that creation of something particularly oriented to keeping lines of communication to blocked babblers open would be beneficial. I'm sure there are a number of sites where babblers post, but there's a certain hit-or-miss element to that method.
The yahoo group idea has merit. Perhaps someone could set one up so that blocked babblers have a reliable hangout where they can socialize and find support (and, hopefully, not spend the whole time debating the merits of blocks and civility rules). Kind of like my old college days when we'd occasionally get barred from our favorite watering hole, but everyone knew where to find us during the next couple months.
But there's really no point to doing it if (1) all people wanted to do at the site was bash P-babble or complain about blocks, and (2) the regular babblers who aren't blocked don't make a commitment to stopping by often enough to keep it lively.
Just my thoughts. Don't know if they're practical. That's for others to judge.
Posted by Larry Hoover on June 5, 2006, at 13:31:28
In reply to Re: Why not just designate an exile island site? » greywolf, posted by ClearSkies on June 5, 2006, at 11:40:39
> I did a search and found a Yahoo group that looks like it's meant for blocked babblers. I have no idea whether it's a current and ongoing group. But it does exist already. If it's not currently active, what would stop the new formation of such a group?
> CSIf you mean rabble, it's invite only.
But sure, you could set up a site just for blowing off steam.
We've lost Chat, so I think you'd see some activity there.
Lar
Posted by ClearSkies on June 5, 2006, at 13:39:23
In reply to Re: Why not just designate an exile island site? » ClearSkies, posted by Larry Hoover on June 5, 2006, at 13:31:28
> > I did a search and found a Yahoo group that looks like it's meant for blocked babblers. I have no idea whether it's a current and ongoing group. But it does exist already. If it's not currently active, what would stop the new formation of such a group?
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>No, it's got some kind of rabidly anti-babble name, I don't have it handy. I did a yahoo search on "babble" and "bob" and it popped up.
I'm personally not in need of such a group, but making it known to those who might find it a relief is my aim...
since PsychCentral is not of any help that way.
CS
Posted by sleepygirl on June 6, 2006, at 19:27:43
In reply to Why not just designate an exile island site?, posted by greywolf on June 5, 2006, at 9:40:02
Posted by fayeroe on June 6, 2006, at 23:35:27
In reply to Re: Why not just designate an exile island site?, posted by Dinah on June 5, 2006, at 11:44:31
> I wouldn't call it an exile island site, but PsychCentral is a similar site to Babble I understand, where many current and former Babblers post?
Thanks for not calling PC an "exile island site", Dinah. We've had a few blocked Babblers come over and post after being banned from here. Some have stayed and others didn't spend much time there.
As someone mentioned, it probably won't work for someone who wants to hang out and complain about Babble.
I went to PC after being blocked here and I stayed. The two sites are managed very differently. What works for some, doesn't work for others.
We welcome all and even have an "Internet Travelers Lounge" for visitors.
And again, thank you for not labeling PC as an exile site for blocked Babblers.Pat
Posted by Dinah on June 7, 2006, at 7:52:26
In reply to Re: Why not just designate an exile island site?, posted by fayeroe on June 6, 2006, at 23:35:27
:)
I may not have been there for a while, but I know better than to think that.
I did want to remind people it was there.
I hope you're doing well, fayeroe.
Dinah
Posted by greywolf on June 7, 2006, at 8:28:01
In reply to Re: Why not just designate an exile island site? » fayeroe, posted by Dinah on June 7, 2006, at 7:52:26
Again, "exile island" is not meant to convey anything except a meeting point using pop terminology.
And I really don't think using an existing service would work. I'm sure that the operators of such sites wouldn't favor it and, frankly, just saying "if you're blocked at babble, we'll look for you among the hundreds/thousands of posters at another site" doesn't offer much support. You might as well just stick to email. Plus, I wouldn't feel comfortable posting at Dr. Bob's site to encourage visits to other similar sites.
I'm just suggesting a private lounge of a loosely constructed nature. A place for Babblers to hang out and keep in touch that they can rely on, so no one's worried about how someone else is doing, etc.
Posted by fayeroe on June 7, 2006, at 14:30:32
In reply to Re: Why not just designate an exile island site? » fayeroe, posted by Dinah on June 7, 2006, at 7:52:26
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> Dinahthanks for your reply, dinah.......
i'm doing very well. how are you?
it is very, very hot here and i'm moving to Austin...so i can be even hotter. :-)
p
Posted by Dinah on June 7, 2006, at 14:41:38
In reply to Re: Why not just designate an exile island site?, posted by fayeroe on June 7, 2006, at 14:30:32
I'm very hot as well. Trying to figure out whether it's cooler to have short hair or long hair pulled into ponytails, and did away with all my shirts with sleeves.
My son's friend evacuated to Austin. He said it was a wonderful city and he wasn't sure he was happy to be back home. :)
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 9, 2006, at 3:27:33
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob » Dinah, posted by Dinah on June 5, 2006, at 3:16:45
> If you can't leave Babblemail on entirely, could you leave it on in a one way direction, so that posters can Babblemail the blocked poster and pass on email addresses or words of support if they wish?
Thanks for your ongoing creativity. :-) I'm open to revising this, how about if we have a discussion among the deputies? Would you mind starting us off?
Bob
Posted by zazenduck on June 9, 2006, at 10:31:59
In reply to Re: leaving Babblemail on, posted by Dr. Bob on June 9, 2006, at 3:27:33
Bob why does it need to be a noninclusive discussion? A discussion is all ready ongoing here. Why exclude people? Some might feel hurt or put down mightn't they?
But what do I know ? I just hoi polloi poultry.
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I'm open to revising this, how about if we have a discussion among the deputies? Would you mind starting us off?
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Posted by Dinah on June 9, 2006, at 12:24:09
In reply to Inclusive discussions? » Dr. Bob, posted by zazenduck on June 9, 2006, at 10:31:59
I'm all for inclusive discussions as well.
And at the very least for not publicly disclosing an exclusive one. :) I think perhaps Mother still needs to register under her own screen name.
By all means, why should we not continue here? I saw no forbidding of the discussion.
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