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Posted by Dinah on July 22, 2005, at 5:22:08
In reply to Sniff... » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on July 22, 2005, at 5:21:19
Actually that's "not engage with"
Posted by gardenergirl on July 22, 2005, at 11:11:27
In reply to Re: you all are very special, posted by Dr. Bob on July 22, 2005, at 3:18:23
> > Do you read so many posts, and see so many Babblers come and go, that you think we're all interchangeable?
> >
> > Do you not see how very special we all are each in our own way?
>
> Of course! And some people may only want to engage with particular posters.Isn't it handy that you can already do this very thing with Yahoo conferences, groups, and IM's?
gg
Posted by AuntieMel on July 22, 2005, at 11:25:03
In reply to Re: you all are very special » Dr. Bob, posted by gardenergirl on July 22, 2005, at 11:11:27
Yes, it can already be done. It makes a person wonder why it need to be done here, doesn't it.
Maybe it needs to be done, and public? Or Dr. Bob wants to watch it for some reason?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 22, 2005, at 16:58:06
In reply to Sniff... » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on July 22, 2005, at 5:21:19
> my understanding is that membership is open to anyone as long as there are spaces, and current members *can't* decide who it is they want to "not talk to".
Right, that's the current idea...
Bob
Posted by Racer on August 4, 2005, at 21:28:20
In reply to Re: you all are very special » gardenergirl, posted by AuntieMel on July 22, 2005, at 11:25:03
Posted by sunnydays on August 30, 2005, at 21:39:19
In reply to Some of us can't use Yahoo... (nm) » AuntieMel, posted by Racer on August 4, 2005, at 21:28:20
Hi - I don't post hardly at all (once in the six months I've been reading Babble), but I wanted to contribute to this discussion. I feel that, even though I am registered, I am really a lurker since I don't post. I just wanted to say really that I find reading this board so helpful, and I would miss terribly the opportunity to read. I understand how people would feel weird about people they don't know reading their posts, but I am pretty shy and have a lot of trouble taking risks, so for me reading helps me a lot because I can identify with so many of the situations on these boards and the threads really give me things to think about in regards to my own life and my therapy. Sorry if this post isn't really relevant to the discussion, but I thought I would try to explain why it helps some people just to read and not to post.
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 30, 2005, at 23:37:30
In reply to Re: Some of us can't use Yahoo..., posted by sunnydays on August 30, 2005, at 21:39:19
Posted by alexandra_k on December 1, 2005, at 22:45:42
In reply to small boards and privacy, posted by alexandra_k on July 3, 2005, at 19:26:19
is it about numbers?
you trying to be the biggest site or something?
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 4, 2005, at 15:01:35
In reply to Re: small boards and privacy, posted by alexandra_k on December 1, 2005, at 22:45:42
> is it about numbers?
> you trying to be the biggest site or something?I'd like for this site to continue to develop, but it's not just numbers that matter...
Bob
Posted by Jakeman on December 4, 2005, at 15:12:34
In reply to Question about privacy of this site and Goggle, posted by Jakeman on November 30, 2005, at 19:57:09
Since this thread got consolidated I've found it hard to follow. I'd like to state my questions again, for clarification.
>is there a way to post on this site without it >going into the Google archives?
>Is there a way to "opt-out" to that my postings >stay on this site and don't go out all over the >internet?
I skimmed through the previous "consolidated" discussions posted around 7/05. The thread goes off on several tangents leading to no real answer. Should I surmise that the answer is no? Or perhaps it's considered on ongoing discussion?
I'm not real internet-savy, but I believe at one time, maybe still, one could post to usenet with a header something like "archive, no" and it would not go into the permanant archives. So your posts would not live forever in cyberspace. Not possible here?
BTW, thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion!
warm regards, Jake
Posted by Jakeman on December 4, 2005, at 15:12:34
In reply to Re: Question about privacy of this site and Goggle » Jakeman, posted by Jakeman on December 2, 2005, at 19:55:52
In the July 05 thread there was a discussion about setting up small boards and possible difficulties that would ensue.
I may be stating the obvious, but there are thousands of chat boards that have the main site registered with google but all the individual posts are limited to that site, they don't go into the google database. Sleepnet.com is one that comes to mind.
Someone may say, why don't you post on those?
That IS an option to be considered, given the heightened concerns of privacy on the internet. The internet is evolving. Maybe someday there will be a little box to check underneath your post saying "do not archive". Maybe that exists already.
warm regards ~Jake
Posted by alexandra_k on December 4, 2005, at 15:12:35
In reply to Re: Question about privacy of this site and Goggle » Jakeman, posted by Jakeman on December 2, 2005, at 19:55:52
> Since this thread got consolidated I've found it hard to follow.
heh heh.
> >is there a way to post on this site without it >going into the Google archives?
not that i know of.
> >Is there a way to "opt-out" to that my postings >stay on this site and don't go out all over the >internet?not that i know of.
> I skimmed through the previous "consolidated" discussions posted around 7/05. The thread goes off on several tangents leading to no real answer.heh heh.
welcome to admin :-)>Should I surmise that the answer is no? Or perhaps it's considered on ongoing discussion?
i think he said 'no' once or twice...
but that hasn't stopped us trying...> I'm not real internet-savy, but I believe at one time, maybe still, one could post to usenet with a header something like "archive, no" and it would not go into the permanant archives. So your posts would not live forever in cyberspace. Not possible here?
no.
and... if it were then people couldn't benefit from the archives. one of the great things about babble is if you are searching for information about a medication you can google for the posts. sometimes people find the information they are looking for from the archives.
and thats great...but some people talk about things that are really personal :-(
and it would be nice if there was someplace to do that where it was only viewable to members...
imo
Posted by wildcard on December 4, 2005, at 15:12:35
In reply to Re: Question about privacy of this site and Goggle » Jakeman, posted by alexandra_k on December 3, 2005, at 0:17:56
Posted by alexandra_k on December 4, 2005, at 15:12:35
In reply to Re: Question about privacy of this site and Goggle » Jakeman, posted by alexandra_k on December 3, 2005, at 0:17:56
> >Should I surmise that the answer is no? Or perhaps it's considered on ongoing discussion?
> i think he said 'no' once or twice...Actually...
From memory...
He said he was open to discussion
But would need compelling reason to change his mind.I *thought* I had some good reasons...
But maybe I didn't ;-)
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 4, 2005, at 15:37:03
In reply to Re: Question about privacy of this site and Goggle » Jakeman, posted by Jakeman on December 2, 2005, at 20:23:31
> perhaps it's considered on ongoing discussion?
I think it would be an interesting experiment:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20050628/msgs/524824.html
And I'm trying to free up some time to work on new projects like this...
> there are thousands of chat boards that have the main site registered with google but all the individual posts are limited to that site, they don't go into the google database. Sleepnet.com is one that comes to mind.
There may be thousands of others, but Google "messages site:sleepnet.com"...
Bob
Posted by alexandra_k on December 4, 2005, at 19:47:00
In reply to Re: privacy of this site and Goggle, posted by Dr. Bob on December 4, 2005, at 15:37:03
> > perhaps it's considered on ongoing discussion?
> I think it would be an interesting experiment:
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20050628/msgs/524824.html
> And I'm trying to free up some time to work on new projects like this...Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.
How about 'new projects including this'
please
please
please:-)
Posted by alexandra_k on December 4, 2005, at 20:05:01
In reply to Re: privacy of this site and Goggle » Dr. Bob, posted by alexandra_k on December 4, 2005, at 19:47:00
'cause i think it is more than just an 'interesting experiment'.
i really do think that people would keep on posting to the main babble board so as to reach a wider range of people with their medication inquiries.
and i think the same would go for the psychology board. the more people who can read / respond the more likely you are to get posts where people can relate to what you have to say.
but... some people really are very worried about posting things that are fairly identifying. and about posting things that are really very personal. and about people irl reading some of that stuff... and maybe using it against you or poking fun or something.
and i know that it will always be possible in principle that someone you know irl could just join up to the same small board... and i know it will always be possible in principle that someone could hack into the board or the posters computer or somthing... but i have to say i think that is a whole heap less probable than people finding out a person posts to this site and them starting to read the posts and finding stuff out that way.
i think... people would still babble away on social etc.
i really don't think... it would affect the current boards all that much.
Posted by Jakeman on December 4, 2005, at 20:11:11
In reply to Re: privacy of this site and Goggle, posted by Dr. Bob on December 4, 2005, at 15:37:03
>>
> There may be thousands of others, but Google "messages site:sleepnet.com"...
>I stand corrected. Sleepnet is googlized too. Thereby all the world will benefit from my brilliant posts on Sleepnet! ;-)
Posted by rainbowbrite on December 4, 2005, at 20:17:39
In reply to Re: privacy of this site and Goggle » Dr. Bob, posted by Jakeman on December 4, 2005, at 20:11:11
Im becoming paranoid
really
Nothing is private
Posted by alexandra_k on December 4, 2005, at 21:05:29
In reply to Re: privacy of this site and Goggle, posted by alexandra_k on December 4, 2005, at 20:05:01
If you are worried about confounding small / large with private / public then...
Rainbow suggested (about the private boards)
>They dont even have to be small boards. It could even be just one big board, or a few specific boards that all posters have access too if registered. Requirement could be that they have to take another quiz and register but there should be a list of members who are signed up...
so there you would have a private (potentially) large board...
Posted by rainbowbrite on December 5, 2005, at 11:02:02
In reply to Re: privacy of this site and Goggle, posted by alexandra_k on December 4, 2005, at 21:05:29
yes, I think both Alex and Rainbow have a wonderful idea. Making it a big board prevents others who frequent babble from being left out since they would only have to register so that the users of this new board know who belongs. Please Dr Bob. Im feeling more and more uncomfortable here :-( Not that you should do it for me, but I wonder if some people who lurk, might come out if they could have a more secure place to do it?? You would be expanding in that sense. I know I would post more openly if I had a safe place to do it.
Posted by alexandra_k on December 5, 2005, at 19:10:00
In reply to Re: privacy of this site and Goggle » alexandra_k, posted by rainbowbrite on December 5, 2005, at 11:02:02
although... i don't know that i would feel much safer even if posters who were members were listed...
maybe... it is more about having a smaller group.
i don't know.
i give up.
Posted by rainbowbrite on December 5, 2005, at 19:24:05
In reply to Re: privacy of this site and Goggle, posted by alexandra_k on December 5, 2005, at 19:10:00
> although... i don't know that i would feel much safer even if posters who were members were listed...
>
> maybe... it is more about having a smaller group.
>
> i don't know.
>
> i give up.But it may still be small. It may bring lurkers out of the woodwork but it may not draw in that many regular posters. So It might be a collection of people who want more privacy who are posters as well as a few lurkers. Just a differnet group but not necessarilly huge.
Posted by rainbowbrite on December 5, 2005, at 19:27:54
In reply to Re: privacy of this site and Goggle, posted by rainbowbrite on December 5, 2005, at 19:24:05
that that still sets you up to have lurkers
a non googleable board??
Posted by Shame on December 6, 2005, at 7:12:50
In reply to Re: privacy of this site and Goggle, posted by rainbowbrite on December 5, 2005, at 19:24:05
Lurkers usually make up a sizeable percentage of any given message board. I would classify myself in the 'lurker' category. I read quite a few posts but rarely reply, and I can count the number of conversational posts I have made on one hand. I occasionally post on the Writing board, but I wouldn't say that I really contribute to anything. Take this post for example. What am I saying here? No one knows. Why haven’t you stopped reading? Pure bloody mindedness perhaps.But I digress. The practical upshot of this piece of junk is that there will be lurkers on any board, no matter how exclusive and how private. Short of imposing posting quotas, lurkers are a part of internet life.
The only work that is being bandied about here that really confounds me is 'privacy'. What kind of expectations does everyone have? I wont bore anyone with geek-speak, but on the internet, 'privacy' is a relative term.
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