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But, on the other hand... » Dr. Bob

Posted by Dinah on July 17, 2005, at 10:25:50

In reply to Re: a conversation, posted by Dr. Bob on July 17, 2005, at 0:38:56

I appreciated that you replied to Gabbi directly without verbal sleight of hand. :)

And that you apologized.

 

Re: a conversation--Yes thank you Dr. Bob

Posted by gabbii on July 17, 2005, at 10:59:17

In reply to Re: a conversation, posted by Dr. Bob on July 17, 2005, at 0:38:56

For the apology, it was appreciated.
I liked the exclamation mark too, it felt like a real reply. "Okay then fine! sorry won't be trying that on you again...grumble, grumble"
: )

 

Re: a conversation

Posted by alexandra_k on July 17, 2005, at 13:26:02

In reply to Re: a conversation, posted by Dr. Bob on July 17, 2005, at 0:38:56

I think people probably have different reasons for having a look on Babble. Some people might be just having a wander on the net while other people might be looking for something in particular.

People looking for information might post their question on several different sites and see where they get the most helpful responses.

People looking to meet other people might be more interested in the conversations / posters at the site.

I was just looking for some friends. If I couldn't post over here I would have found somewhere else.

Its only NOW after posting for so long that I have gotten attached to this site and the posters here. I wouldn't have been so very upset if I couldn't have posted here to start with because I wouldn't have known the people here to really see what I would have been missing out on.

But that being said I'm not a lurker by nature. I would have realised I couldn't post pretty quickly. Other people who spend more time reading the posts might feel like they have gotten to know the posters and be more likely to feel a little slapped when they can't sign up.

Because not everybody reads the blurb on the boards. I didn't read it for quite a while. If there had been something there about the board being restricted then I would have missed it until I tried to sign up most probably.

 

Re: you all are very special

Posted by Dr. Bob on July 22, 2005, at 3:18:23

In reply to Re: a conversation » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on July 17, 2005, at 9:18:38

> Do you read so many posts, and see so many Babblers come and go, that you think we're all interchangeable?
>
> Do you not see how very special we all are each in our own way?

Of course! And some people may only want to engage with particular posters.

Bob

 

Sniff... » Dr. Bob

Posted by Dinah on July 22, 2005, at 5:21:19

In reply to Re: you all are very special, posted by Dr. Bob on July 22, 2005, at 3:18:23

Actually, two quite different sniffs.

Thank you for noticing we're all special.

And they'd pretty much be out of luck with the small groups, right? Because my understanding is that membership is open to anyone as long as there are spaces, and current members *can't* decide who it is they want to "not talk to".

Pray tell me that is a correct understanding of the situation proposed?

 

Oops

Posted by Dinah on July 22, 2005, at 5:22:08

In reply to Sniff... » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on July 22, 2005, at 5:21:19

Actually that's "not engage with"

 

Re: you all are very special » Dr. Bob

Posted by gardenergirl on July 22, 2005, at 11:11:27

In reply to Re: you all are very special, posted by Dr. Bob on July 22, 2005, at 3:18:23

> > Do you read so many posts, and see so many Babblers come and go, that you think we're all interchangeable?
> >
> > Do you not see how very special we all are each in our own way?
>
> Of course! And some people may only want to engage with particular posters.

Isn't it handy that you can already do this very thing with Yahoo conferences, groups, and IM's?

gg

 

Re: you all are very special » gardenergirl

Posted by AuntieMel on July 22, 2005, at 11:25:03

In reply to Re: you all are very special » Dr. Bob, posted by gardenergirl on July 22, 2005, at 11:11:27

Yes, it can already be done. It makes a person wonder why it need to be done here, doesn't it.

Maybe it needs to be done, and public? Or Dr. Bob wants to watch it for some reason?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

Re: open to anyone as long as there are spaces

Posted by Dr. Bob on July 22, 2005, at 16:58:06

In reply to Sniff... » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on July 22, 2005, at 5:21:19

> my understanding is that membership is open to anyone as long as there are spaces, and current members *can't* decide who it is they want to "not talk to".

Right, that's the current idea...

Bob

 

Some of us can't use Yahoo... (nm) » AuntieMel

Posted by Racer on August 4, 2005, at 21:28:20

In reply to Re: you all are very special » gardenergirl, posted by AuntieMel on July 22, 2005, at 11:25:03

 

Re: Some of us can't use Yahoo...

Posted by sunnydays on August 30, 2005, at 21:39:19

In reply to Some of us can't use Yahoo... (nm) » AuntieMel, posted by Racer on August 4, 2005, at 21:28:20

Hi - I don't post hardly at all (once in the six months I've been reading Babble), but I wanted to contribute to this discussion. I feel that, even though I am registered, I am really a lurker since I don't post. I just wanted to say really that I find reading this board so helpful, and I would miss terribly the opportunity to read. I understand how people would feel weird about people they don't know reading their posts, but I am pretty shy and have a lot of trouble taking risks, so for me reading helps me a lot because I can identify with so many of the situations on these boards and the threads really give me things to think about in regards to my own life and my therapy. Sorry if this post isn't really relevant to the discussion, but I thought I would try to explain why it helps some people just to read and not to post.

 

Re: thanks for de-lurking :-) (nm) » sunnydays

Posted by Dr. Bob on August 30, 2005, at 23:37:30

In reply to Re: Some of us can't use Yahoo..., posted by sunnydays on August 30, 2005, at 21:39:19

 

Re: small boards and privacy

Posted by alexandra_k on December 1, 2005, at 22:45:42

In reply to small boards and privacy, posted by alexandra_k on July 3, 2005, at 19:26:19

is it about numbers?
you trying to be the biggest site or something?

 

Re: small boards and privacy

Posted by Dr. Bob on December 4, 2005, at 15:01:35

In reply to Re: small boards and privacy, posted by alexandra_k on December 1, 2005, at 22:45:42

> is it about numbers?
> you trying to be the biggest site or something?

I'd like for this site to continue to develop, but it's not just numbers that matter...

Bob

 

Re: Question about privacy of this site and Goggle » Jakeman

Posted by Jakeman on December 4, 2005, at 15:12:34

In reply to Question about privacy of this site and Goggle, posted by Jakeman on November 30, 2005, at 19:57:09

Since this thread got consolidated I've found it hard to follow. I'd like to state my questions again, for clarification.

>is there a way to post on this site without it >going into the Google archives?

>Is there a way to "opt-out" to that my postings >stay on this site and don't go out all over the >internet?

I skimmed through the previous "consolidated" discussions posted around 7/05. The thread goes off on several tangents leading to no real answer. Should I surmise that the answer is no? Or perhaps it's considered on ongoing discussion?

I'm not real internet-savy, but I believe at one time, maybe still, one could post to usenet with a header something like "archive, no" and it would not go into the permanant archives. So your posts would not live forever in cyberspace. Not possible here?

BTW, thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion!

warm regards, Jake

 

Re: Question about privacy of this site and Goggle » Jakeman

Posted by Jakeman on December 4, 2005, at 15:12:34

In reply to Re: Question about privacy of this site and Goggle » Jakeman, posted by Jakeman on December 2, 2005, at 19:55:52

In the July 05 thread there was a discussion about setting up small boards and possible difficulties that would ensue.

I may be stating the obvious, but there are thousands of chat boards that have the main site registered with google but all the individual posts are limited to that site, they don't go into the google database. Sleepnet.com is one that comes to mind.

Someone may say, why don't you post on those?

That IS an option to be considered, given the heightened concerns of privacy on the internet. The internet is evolving. Maybe someday there will be a little box to check underneath your post saying "do not archive". Maybe that exists already.

warm regards ~Jake

 

Re: Question about privacy of this site and Goggle » Jakeman

Posted by alexandra_k on December 4, 2005, at 15:12:35

In reply to Re: Question about privacy of this site and Goggle » Jakeman, posted by Jakeman on December 2, 2005, at 19:55:52

> Since this thread got consolidated I've found it hard to follow.

heh heh.

> >is there a way to post on this site without it >going into the Google archives?

not that i know of.

> >Is there a way to "opt-out" to that my postings >stay on this site and don't go out all over the >internet?

not that i know of.

> I skimmed through the previous "consolidated" discussions posted around 7/05. The thread goes off on several tangents leading to no real answer.

heh heh.
welcome to admin :-)

>Should I surmise that the answer is no? Or perhaps it's considered on ongoing discussion?

i think he said 'no' once or twice...
but that hasn't stopped us trying...

> I'm not real internet-savy, but I believe at one time, maybe still, one could post to usenet with a header something like "archive, no" and it would not go into the permanant archives. So your posts would not live forever in cyberspace. Not possible here?

no.
and... if it were then people couldn't benefit from the archives. one of the great things about babble is if you are searching for information about a medication you can google for the posts. sometimes people find the information they are looking for from the archives.

and thats great...

but some people talk about things that are really personal :-(

and it would be nice if there was someplace to do that where it was only viewable to members...

imo

 

Exactly! (nm) » alexandra_k

Posted by wildcard on December 4, 2005, at 15:12:35

In reply to Re: Question about privacy of this site and Goggle » Jakeman, posted by alexandra_k on December 3, 2005, at 0:17:56

 

Re: Question about privacy of this site and Goggle

Posted by alexandra_k on December 4, 2005, at 15:12:35

In reply to Re: Question about privacy of this site and Goggle » Jakeman, posted by alexandra_k on December 3, 2005, at 0:17:56

> >Should I surmise that the answer is no? Or perhaps it's considered on ongoing discussion?

> i think he said 'no' once or twice...

Actually...
From memory...
He said he was open to discussion
But would need compelling reason to change his mind.

I *thought* I had some good reasons...
But maybe I didn't ;-)

 

Re: privacy of this site and Goggle

Posted by Dr. Bob on December 4, 2005, at 15:37:03

In reply to Re: Question about privacy of this site and Goggle » Jakeman, posted by Jakeman on December 2, 2005, at 20:23:31

> perhaps it's considered on ongoing discussion?

I think it would be an interesting experiment:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20050628/msgs/524824.html

And I'm trying to free up some time to work on new projects like this...

> there are thousands of chat boards that have the main site registered with google but all the individual posts are limited to that site, they don't go into the google database. Sleepnet.com is one that comes to mind.

There may be thousands of others, but Google "messages site:sleepnet.com"...

Bob

 

Re: privacy of this site and Goggle » Dr. Bob

Posted by alexandra_k on December 4, 2005, at 19:47:00

In reply to Re: privacy of this site and Goggle, posted by Dr. Bob on December 4, 2005, at 15:37:03

> > perhaps it's considered on ongoing discussion?

> I think it would be an interesting experiment:

> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20050628/msgs/524824.html

> And I'm trying to free up some time to work on new projects like this...

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.
How about 'new projects including this'
please
please
please

:-)

 

Re: privacy of this site and Goggle

Posted by alexandra_k on December 4, 2005, at 20:05:01

In reply to Re: privacy of this site and Goggle » Dr. Bob, posted by alexandra_k on December 4, 2005, at 19:47:00

'cause i think it is more than just an 'interesting experiment'.

i really do think that people would keep on posting to the main babble board so as to reach a wider range of people with their medication inquiries.

and i think the same would go for the psychology board. the more people who can read / respond the more likely you are to get posts where people can relate to what you have to say.

but... some people really are very worried about posting things that are fairly identifying. and about posting things that are really very personal. and about people irl reading some of that stuff... and maybe using it against you or poking fun or something.

and i know that it will always be possible in principle that someone you know irl could just join up to the same small board... and i know it will always be possible in principle that someone could hack into the board or the posters computer or somthing... but i have to say i think that is a whole heap less probable than people finding out a person posts to this site and them starting to read the posts and finding stuff out that way.

i think... people would still babble away on social etc.

i really don't think... it would affect the current boards all that much.

 

Re: privacy of this site and Goggle » Dr. Bob

Posted by Jakeman on December 4, 2005, at 20:11:11

In reply to Re: privacy of this site and Goggle, posted by Dr. Bob on December 4, 2005, at 15:37:03

>>
> There may be thousands of others, but Google "messages site:sleepnet.com"...
>

I stand corrected. Sleepnet is googlized too. Thereby all the world will benefit from my brilliant posts on Sleepnet! ;-)

 

Re: privacy of this site and Goggle

Posted by rainbowbrite on December 4, 2005, at 20:17:39

In reply to Re: privacy of this site and Goggle » Dr. Bob, posted by Jakeman on December 4, 2005, at 20:11:11

Im becoming paranoid
really
Nothing is private

 

Re: privacy of this site and Goggle

Posted by alexandra_k on December 4, 2005, at 21:05:29

In reply to Re: privacy of this site and Goggle, posted by alexandra_k on December 4, 2005, at 20:05:01

If you are worried about confounding small / large with private / public then...

Rainbow suggested (about the private boards)

>They dont even have to be small boards. It could even be just one big board, or a few specific boards that all posters have access too if registered. Requirement could be that they have to take another quiz and register but there should be a list of members who are signed up...

so there you would have a private (potentially) large board...


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