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Re: automatic asterisking » Dr. Bob

Posted by Atticus on December 8, 2004, at 0:02:16

In reply to Re: automatic asterisking, posted by Dr. Bob on December 7, 2004, at 23:50:18

OK, I can live with that. Speaking of "profanity," I just noticed that Phil has become yet another casualty of your war on "@ss"ing, over on PB Writing. Jai, Susan47, now Phil. Will this carnage never end? Oh, the humanity! ;) Atticus

 

Re: The Book of Bob » alexandra_k

Posted by Atticus on December 8, 2004, at 0:23:36

In reply to The Book of Bob » Atticus, posted by alexandra_k on December 7, 2004, at 18:17:08

Hi Alex,
"Technology is not always the answer"?! Well, b*llocks. There goes my plan to replace Dr. Bob with an android who curses like a sailor. But perhaps I've been too harsh on his War On "@ss"ing. The ability to resist using the word "@ss" is all that separates us from the lower animals. With chimps, it's just "@ss this" and "@ss that." Next thing you know, they're hurling their own feces at innocent zoo-goers. "@ss" is clearly a "gateway" to more serious lapses in civility. Or something. ;) Atticus

 

oh, he he he » Atticus

Posted by alexandra_k on December 8, 2004, at 0:40:08

In reply to Re: The Book of Bob » alexandra_k, posted by Atticus on December 8, 2004, at 0:23:36

Pleased to meet you Atticus, not sure whether we've really met properly before :-)

 

Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » Jai Narayan

Posted by All Done on December 8, 2004, at 0:56:28

In reply to I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob?, posted by Jai Narayan on December 7, 2004, at 21:35:36

> He could barely answer his parents and they tried to pull him away from the awful box.
> Their attempts were futile.
> Soon his life was only the box and all the little lines written all over the surface.
> He had no real friends.
> He only communicated with these virtual people inside the box.
> His parents wanted to take him to their family doctor.

Jai,

Perhaps I'm in the minority here, but this bothers me a bit. I don't know if I would say it is uncivil, but at the very least it doesn't feel supportive, IMO. Now, I suppose we can all assume Dr. Bob is not here for support, but how do we ever really know why any poster is here and aren't we are expected to be supportive of everyone? If this was written about any other poster, would it have been acceptable? (Maybe Dr. Bob could answer that?)

Dr. Bob seems to be somewhat forgiving of attacks on him and to some degree, I suppose he has to be since this board is, in part, for challenging his decisions. To me, though, this feels more personal than "admin".

Jai, I love to read your posts and I hope I have not offended you. Maybe I just have a stick up my @ss.

Laurie

 

Re: oh, he he he » alexandra_k

Posted by Atticus on December 8, 2004, at 9:29:56

In reply to oh, he he he » Atticus, posted by alexandra_k on December 8, 2004, at 0:40:08

I can't remember if we've "properly" met either. But in case we haven't, the pleasure's all mine. Ta. ;) Atticus

 

Jai / AllDone

Posted by alexandra_k on December 8, 2004, at 13:11:24

In reply to Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » Jai Narayan, posted by All Done on December 8, 2004, at 0:56:28

I liked it very much. I didn't think it was disrespectful.

It reminds me of the young Jung with his rock

'am I sitting on the rock or is someone sitting on me'.

Thats what you get from reading too many 'beginners guides to _____'

 

Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » Jai Narayan

Posted by TofuEmmy on December 8, 2004, at 19:00:36

In reply to I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob?, posted by Jai Narayan on December 7, 2004, at 21:35:36

Wow and ouch. I thought me calling him a troll was pretty stinky, but this is....[insert PBC here].

IMO - Using pretty words to say cruel things does not make them any less cruel.

emmy

 

Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » TofuEmmy

Posted by alexandra_k on December 8, 2004, at 19:21:47

In reply to Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » Jai Narayan, posted by TofuEmmy on December 8, 2004, at 19:00:36

I thought it portrayed him as sweet and curious - there was an undertone of warning about the dangerously addictive nature of computing... but I didn't take it to be cruel at all.

I do agree, however, that it would be inappropriate to speculate about the childhood of the average poster here (unless you were sure they could appreciate your intentions) - but Dr. Bob is nearer the healthy end of the spectrum so I am sure he can handle it!

 

Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » alexandra_k

Posted by All Done on December 9, 2004, at 1:23:25

In reply to Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » TofuEmmy, posted by alexandra_k on December 8, 2004, at 19:21:47

> Dr. Bob is nearer the healthy end of the spectrum

He is?

 

Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » All Done

Posted by alexandra_k on December 9, 2004, at 14:57:06

In reply to Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » alexandra_k, posted by All Done on December 9, 2004, at 1:23:25

now now :-)

I figure that being a psychiatrist and all...
If you can't take the heat you shouldn't play with fire.

 

Another Bobism

Posted by alexandra_k on December 9, 2004, at 14:57:47

In reply to Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » All Done, posted by alexandra_k on December 9, 2004, at 14:57:06

Thanks!

 

Re: Dr. Bob's mental health » alexandra_k

Posted by All Done on December 9, 2004, at 15:44:33

In reply to Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » All Done, posted by alexandra_k on December 9, 2004, at 14:57:06

> now now :-)
>
> I figure that being a psychiatrist and all...
> If you can't take the heat you shouldn't play with fire.

Oh, I wasn't saying he is or isn't nearer the healthy end of the spectrum, Alexandra. My point is just that I don't know and I'm guessing, unless a poster has a personal relationship with Dr. Bob, that none of us know. Just as we don't know the level of mental illness, if there is any, of any given poster unless they have told us, which I don't believe Dr. Bob has (correct me if I'm wrong, though).

That said, I believe all posts should remain civil no matter who the post is directed to or about.

Kind of a moot point, though, since we don't agree on the civility of the original post. Sometimes I just like to hear myself think, I guess :).

Take care,
Laurie

 

Re: being a psychiatrist and all

Posted by Dr. Bob on December 9, 2004, at 17:13:37

In reply to Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » All Done, posted by alexandra_k on December 9, 2004, at 14:57:06

> I figure that being a psychiatrist and all...
> If you can't take the heat you shouldn't play with fire.

I encourage conflict, dissent, and negotiation across the leader-members boundary. I'd rather it didn't get *too* hot, of course...

Bob

 

Re: being a psychiatrist and all » Dr. Bob

Posted by alexandra_k on December 9, 2004, at 17:51:30

In reply to Re: being a psychiatrist and all, posted by Dr. Bob on December 9, 2004, at 17:13:37

'encourage' now, I thought you preferred 'accept'???!!

I thought it was playful teasing,
Not malice or cruel
Just MHO
I don't think Jai has a nasty bone in her body.

:-)

 

Re: being a psychiatrist and all » alexandra_k

Posted by All Done on December 10, 2004, at 0:25:13

In reply to Re: being a psychiatrist and all » Dr. Bob, posted by alexandra_k on December 9, 2004, at 17:51:30

> I don't think Jai has a nasty bone in her body.


Just to be clear, neither do I.

I was just questioning the civility of her words. I wasn't judging her character or intent.

 

Re: being a psychiatrist and all » All Done

Posted by alexandra_k on December 10, 2004, at 0:48:47

In reply to Re: being a psychiatrist and all » alexandra_k, posted by All Done on December 10, 2004, at 0:25:13

I apologise if it sounded like I was accusing you of judging Jai's intentions.

I do think that intentions come to bear on the civility of words, however...

But I also take your point.

 

Re: being a psychiatrist and all

Posted by Jai Narayan on December 11, 2004, at 20:19:37

In reply to Re: being a psychiatrist and all » All Done, posted by alexandra_k on December 10, 2004, at 0:48:47

Hi, I have just gotten back to babble.
My week was way too filled with a local fire.
I have gotten side tracked.
Dr. Bob I am so sorry if my little story has offended you.
I had no intent to do so.
I rather like Dr. Bob.
I would never want to hurt him.
I thought it would amuse him.
so All Done....
I am so sorry if it hurt your feelings.
Now that wouldn't make me happy.
Or you tofu emmy....
I am not into making you-all feel bad.
I was being silly and letting my mind drift into the imagination to make up a story of why I would be in his shoes.
a total projection.
I watched the ants as a child and was totally facinated.
So my story did not stimulate other stories....
oh well.

Slinky....
where are you when I need you?
Jai

 

Re: being a psychiatrist and all

Posted by alexandra_k on December 11, 2004, at 20:21:21

In reply to Re: being a psychiatrist and all, posted by Jai Narayan on December 11, 2004, at 20:19:37

Hi Jai, glad to hear from you. I liked your story :-)

 

wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? Whoa!

Posted by Gabbix2 on December 11, 2004, at 20:29:24

In reply to Re: I wonda wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? » Jai Narayan, posted by TofuEmmy on December 8, 2004, at 19:00:36

It didn't come across to me as cruel at all,
I thought it was a whimsical story like Ferdinand the Bull who was always off sniffing the flowers.
I know Jai's always made a point of saying really nice things about Dr. Bob on admin too unlike say.. me, so perhaps that made me see it differently too.

 

Re: wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? Whoa! » Gabbix2

Posted by Atticus on December 11, 2004, at 20:38:06

In reply to wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? Whoa!, posted by Gabbix2 on December 11, 2004, at 20:29:24

I'd say I thought it was sweet, too, but coming from me, I figure Dr. Bob would then decide there MUST be something offensive hidden in it. ;) Atticus

 

Re: wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? Whoa!

Posted by TofuEmmy on December 11, 2004, at 22:32:07

In reply to Re: wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? Whoa! » Gabbix2, posted by Atticus on December 11, 2004, at 20:38:06

Just shows to go ya, we all interpret art differently. For example:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/poli/20041129/msgs/425147.html

 

Re: wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? Whoa! » TofuEmmy

Posted by Gabbix2 on December 11, 2004, at 22:40:09

In reply to Re: wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? Whoa!, posted by TofuEmmy on December 11, 2004, at 22:32:07

I don't think we interpreted the entire text differently. I specifically took one passage from the whole which I saw as dark humor, yes, at other times I find the same selection poignant, the rest of the piece I spoke with Jai about in an e-mail, and I mentioned that when I'm my most upset my humor still finds it way out.
It's impossible for me to see how the whole work could be seen as funny, it was simply the passage I chose to focus on.

 

However...TofuEmmy

Posted by Gabbix2 on December 11, 2004, at 23:38:50

In reply to Re: wonda who...WHO wrote the book of Bob? Whoa! » TofuEmmy, posted by Gabbix2 on December 11, 2004, at 22:40:09

I suppose if it was offensive that I pointed out that I found the lines about inhaling a missing cat darkly humorous in an otherwise serious and painful piece, I apologize. I won't apologize for finding it funny though, life is painful and funny simultaneously, it just didn't occur to me that prose shouldn't be.

 

gabbix2

Posted by Jai Narayan on December 12, 2004, at 8:26:19

In reply to However...TofuEmmy, posted by Gabbix2 on December 11, 2004, at 23:38:50

I have a fascination with things that disappear.
One minute they are whole the next they are gone.
My art revolves around that magical, mysterious fact.

Imagine everything you own gone in an afternoon.
The tenants stood watching their possessions go up in smoke.
My mind asks "how is that possible?"

I am not offended by you seeing humor in my piece.
I chuckled when you pointed it out in your comment.
Jai

 

Thanks Jai » Jai Narayan

Posted by Gabbix2 on December 12, 2004, at 10:26:10

In reply to gabbix2, posted by Jai Narayan on December 12, 2004, at 8:26:19

> I have a fascination with things that disappear.
> One minute they are whole the next they are gone.
> My art revolves around that magical, mysterious fact.

This should be on writing, but oh well,

Yes, the first time I read it, I saw it as just plain funny, but the next day, I thought about it more which is what good writing does, and then it became more poignant, all these important things.. vaporized, as you said.
It was brilliant though, I think, really brilliant that it could go from absurd to mystical to melancholy that one paragraph.

But thank you so much for letting me know that you weren't suprised, or offended that I found it darkly comical.


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