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Posted by Greg on September 6, 2004, at 23:06:56
In reply to Re: blocked for 32 weeks » chicklet, posted by Dr. Bob on August 31, 2004, at 13:50:50
...that I no longer post here. Why is it OK for you to take donations to help out your own cause (or at lease it used to be), but when a member finds themself in dire need and another member attempts to come to their aid. you slap one of your world famous bans on them. Talk about double standards. When are you going to learn that this place isn't about you or your research, it's about the people who come here looking for education, support and friendship. But yet you go out of your way to make it so hard for that to happen. Your constant attempts to lead the members of this site around like guinea pigs in a cage is just sickening. And you do it so you can write your research papers and books and make those almighty dollars. You could care less about the health and welfare of the people here.
It wouldn't hurt you one bit to allow these people to take up collections to help this person get a new computer. But I guess that wouldn't make good research, would it? Only the resulting impact of a negative environment is worth writing about to you isn't it? I believe this will come back and bite you someday, and i hope that I'm here to see it. This used to be a wonderful place to be, and then you became greedy and self-centered and ruined it for many people. You're already held in very low regard among your peers, it's only a matter of time until this all falls apart on you.
In closing the people trying to get the donations for the comp know where to go. We'll do our best to get something rolling. Bob, if you feel the need to ban me, go for it. I don't post here anymore anyway. Make it a week, 10 weeks, 100 weeks, a thousand weeks, it doesn't matter. I have a home where I'm safe, secure, and the owner treats all his members with the respect they deserve. You should try that someday.
Greg
Posted by Susan47 on September 6, 2004, at 23:06:58
In reply to It's for reasons just like this...Bob, posted by Greg on September 5, 2004, at 1:45:21
Do you post on another board, Greg?
These boards have helped me immensely. I know that what I say can be used against me. I know what I say may be used for research. I know I cannot solicit money for any cause. I believe these are the rules. There are others I'm not aware of, I'm sure. Anyone who posts to these boards needs to know the rules to some degree. I accepted them when I decided to post; my emotional health was important enough to me to reach out despite the drawbacks; and there *are* drawbacks to *everything*.
If you want to criticize Dr. B, why don't you write him a personal letter? It seems like you know him personally.
Posted by Dinah on September 6, 2004, at 23:07:03
In reply to It's for reasons just like this...Bob, posted by Greg on September 5, 2004, at 1:45:21
I don't understand the continual preoccupation with Babble as research. It is not currently considered research, and I'm not sure it ever should have been. It has always seemed more like case studies than research, not that I'm an expert. But the experts *have* ruled that it is not currently research, so I think people can relax about the lab rat thing.
The fact that Dr. Bob is held in low regard by at least one peer hasn't been news for a long time. I remember reading something negative about Dr. Bob in that someone's weblog what seems like years ago. I have no idea if he makes other similar comments during his weekly chats or in other semi-private places. But I do remember the entry in the weblog. When I read it, it didn't cause me to respect *Dr. Bob* any less. And when Dr. Bob didn't reply in kind - at least in public (I have no earthly idea what he says in private), it made my respect for Dr. Bob skyrocket. And made me realize that Dr. Bob's Babble is my cyber home. If he ever finds he can't take the hassle of runnng Babble any longer, or if I'm ever forced to leave here for whatever reason, I'll make do with my real life and my therapist. Perhaps it is my internalization of my own profession's expectations of conduct that caused me to react that way. Perhaps not.
Greg, you've always been a favorite Babbler of mine. And I'm glad you found a cyberhome where you feel comfortable.
But Dr. Bob having a general rule against soliciting funds doesn't seem that awful to me. I have the most immense fondness for the poster in question here. I would happily send her an early Birthday/Holiday gift, especially if it helps her join us again soon.
But Babble is full of posters in need. Posters that can't afford their daily meds. Posters who are losing their homes. I've often been frustrated at my inability to help more tangibly. But if Dr. Bob allowed appeals for help here, I'd be more frustrated by the overwhelming need and my lack of ability to meet it. I'd be frustrated trying to decide where I should allocate my limited funds. I'd be worried that there would be implicit expectations. If you helped XXX why not YYY. Do you like XXX better? It's a good general rule for the board, and the posters who posted knew the likely result.
And if Dr. Bob were conducting research, which he is not by the definitions of his governing authority, I would think the complex interactions that would result by allowing appeals for money on the board would produce much better fodder than disallowing all such appeals.
Posted by Jai Narayan on September 6, 2004, at 23:07:04
In reply to Re: Reasons » Greg, posted by Dinah on September 5, 2004, at 12:51:27
Posted by AuntieMel on September 6, 2004, at 23:26:48
In reply to Re: Reasons » Greg, posted by Dinah on September 5, 2004, at 12:51:27
I know that we are not really lab rats. But some times when things here go strange it certainly *feels* like I'm a lab rat.
But not enough to quit:)
Posted by fayeroe on September 7, 2004, at 12:42:29
In reply to It's for reasons just like this...Bob, posted by Greg on September 5, 2004, at 1:45:21
Posted by Dinah on September 7, 2004, at 12:56:24
In reply to Greg, I've got your back!! (nm) » Greg, posted by fayeroe on September 7, 2004, at 12:42:29
I'm quite fond of Greg. I remember his kindness quite well.
Posted by Larry Hoover on September 7, 2004, at 13:00:59
In reply to It's for reasons just like this...Bob, posted by Greg on September 5, 2004, at 1:45:21
> In closing the people trying to get the donations for the comp know where to go. We'll do our best to get something rolling. Bob, if you feel the need to ban me, go for it. I don't post here anymore anyway. Make it a week, 10 weeks, 100 weeks, a thousand weeks, it doesn't matter. I have a home where I'm safe, secure, and the owner treats all his members with the respect they deserve. You should try that someday.
>
> GregI deeply appreciate the concern and support extended to one in great need. We are optimistic that gabbi will be online again by the end of the week. There are some problems with clearing/transferring all the contributions offered up, but all are dearly and sincerely thanked for their support.
Lar
Posted by Dr. Bob on September 7, 2004, at 22:43:54
In reply to It's for reasons just like this...Bob, posted by Greg on September 5, 2004, at 1:45:21
> Your constant attempts to lead the members of this site around like guinea pigs in a cage is just sickening... You could care less about the health and welfare of the people here.
Please don’t post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down. I've asked you to be civil before, so now I'm going to block you from posting for a week.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues and replies to the above post should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by KaraS on September 9, 2004, at 0:40:04
In reply to Redirect: administrative issues, posted by Dr. Bob on September 6, 2004, at 23:08:34
> > follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.
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> Here's a link:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20040902/msgs/387417.html
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> Thanks,
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> Bob
Greg,
I don't agree with Dr. Bob's blocks or rules most of the time and I have been quite vocal in my opposition to them lately (especially those blocks having to do with fundraising for the computer). However, I think you're being a bit unfair to ascribe such motives to Dr. Bob. He may not see things your way or my way in terms of how things should be run here, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he is in it only for the money or that he doesn't care about us or this site. Also, let's keep in mind that this site wouldn't exist without him or the money to back it! Despite my anger at times towards him and his policies, I am still grateful for that.Kara
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