Psycho-Babble Administration Thread 258719

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Re: I need/want your stories!!! » fayeroe

Posted by KimberlyDi on September 10, 2003, at 11:47:10

In reply to Re: I need/want your stories!!!, posted by fayeroe on September 9, 2003, at 22:45:09

>> Folks, whatever you do, don't submit anything about your mental health to Jay. You will regret any association that you have with him. I know. I've been there and was extremely
> used and hurt by him.He hurt several people who used to post here. He cannot be depended upon. Please don't send him your life story.
>

 

Re: please be civil » fayeroe

Posted by Dr. Bob on September 10, 2003, at 20:10:58

In reply to Re: I need/want your stories!!! » fayeroe, posted by KimberlyDi on September 10, 2003, at 11:47:10

> > don't submit anything about your mental health to Jay. You will regret any association that you have with him. I know. I've been there and was extremely
> > used and hurt by him.He hurt several people who used to post here. He cannot be depended upon.

Even if you feel angry, and even if it's perfectly justified, please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down. Thanks,

Bob

 

Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob

Posted by fayeroe on September 11, 2003, at 9:04:16

In reply to Re: please be civil » fayeroe, posted by Dr. Bob on September 10, 2003, at 20:10:58

> > > don't submit anything about your mental health to Jay. You will regret any association that you have with him. I know. I've been there and was extremely
> > > used and hurt by him.He hurt several people who used to post here. He cannot be depended upon.
>
> Even if you feel angry, and even if it's perfectly justified, please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down. Thanks,
>
> Bob

When is being totally truthful and protective of the members of these boards putting someone down? I haven't been on here in a very long time and someone that had been hurt badly by the administrator of the other forum let me know that he was asking people for their "stories". I feel a moral obligation to let others know what he did in the past. I stand by my post. And I see you still have those who run to you with anything they don't like.( I could have e.mailed you about him but that would not protect all of the innocents and trusting ones on your boards.)
Whatever happens to me here is nothing compared to what will happen to people who get involved with his project. Five good people took the brunt of one individual's anger while he was gone from the forum.

Some people don't recognize common sense anymore. And for what? It's like letting a fox into the chicken house.....Fayeroe

 

Re: please be civil » fayeroe

Posted by Gabbix2 on September 11, 2003, at 18:18:19

In reply to Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob, posted by fayeroe on September 11, 2003, at 9:04:16

Thats a really interesting point.

I don't know what happened on the other board, but taking what was said at face value, does that mean that
if we are aware that someone is harming others;
and its more than just a difference of opinion, we are not allowed to say anything for fear of being blocked?

How civil is allowing other people to be hurt when you feel it could be prevented?

What if someone was posing as a mental health advocate interested in our lives but was actually a stalker?

 

Re: please be civil

Posted by fayeroe on September 11, 2003, at 20:21:41

In reply to Re: please be civil » fayeroe, posted by Gabbix2 on September 11, 2003, at 18:18:19

> Thats a really interesting point.
>
> I don't know what happened on the other board, but taking what was said at face value, does that mean that
> if we are aware that someone is harming others;
> and its more than just a difference of opinion, we are not allowed to say anything for fear of being blocked?
>
> How civil is allowing other people to be hurt when you feel it could be prevented?
>
> What if someone was posing as a mental health advocate interested in our lives but was actually a stalker?


Glad you can see the point I'm trying to make. And the main thing is the hurt that I'm trying to prevent. Allowing someone on a board to manipulate people who are the last in the world that need to be hurt is ridiculous. This is, I believe, a group of individuals who are depressed and hurting and none of them deserve to be tricked into telling private details of their "mental illnesses" to someone who has no professional training whatsoever. Thanks, Gab!!

 

Re: please be civil

Posted by Gabbix2 on September 11, 2003, at 23:20:50

In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by fayeroe on September 11, 2003, at 20:21:41

You're very welcome. If that is in actuality the way things have to be done in order to maintain an appearance of civility the ramifications are very scary. There is a word for someone who would knowingly let a blind man walk off a cliff, but civil isn't it.

 

Dr. Bob I'm speaking Hypothetically in those posts (nm)

Posted by Gabbix2 on September 11, 2003, at 23:42:54

In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by Gabbix2 on September 11, 2003, at 23:20:50

 

Re: being protective

Posted by Dr. Bob on September 12, 2003, at 16:46:47

In reply to Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob, posted by fayeroe on September 11, 2003, at 9:04:16

> > > > don't submit anything about your mental health to Jay. You will regret any association that you have with him. I know. I've been there and was extremely used and hurt by him.He hurt several people who used to post here. He cannot be depended upon.
> >
> > Even if you feel angry, and even if it's perfectly justified, please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
>
> When is being totally truthful and protective of the members of these boards putting someone down?

When it's disapproving or critical of that person.

> I feel a moral obligation to let others know what he did in the past. I stand by my post.

Well, you have to do what you have to do, but it might also be possible to be protective and civil at the same time, for example:

> > > > don't submit anything about your mental health to others unless you're pretty sure you can trust them. Otherwise, you may regret any association that you have with them. I know. I've been there and felt extremely used and hurt. And several others who used to post here did, too. You can't necessarily depend upon others.

Bob

 

Got it! (nm) » Dr. Bob

Posted by Gabbix2 on September 12, 2003, at 20:55:50

In reply to Re: being protective, posted by Dr. Bob on September 12, 2003, at 16:46:47

 

I'm not sure if I made this clear enough

Posted by gabbix2 on September 15, 2003, at 12:12:15

In reply to Got it! (nm) » Dr. Bob, posted by Gabbix2 on September 12, 2003, at 20:55:50

I was asking questions about the principal
here, and *not* the situation regarding Jay and the board being spoken of. I thought it brought up an interesting point for future reference.

 

Re: please be civil..Dr. Bob and Fayeroe » Dr. Bob

Posted by jay on October 4, 2003, at 2:28:05

In reply to Re: please be civil » fayeroe, posted by Dr. Bob on September 10, 2003, at 20:10:58

> > > don't submit anything about your mental health to Jay. You will regret any association that you have with him. I know. I've been there and was extremely
> > > used and hurt by him.He hurt several people who used to post here. He cannot be depended upon.
>
> Even if you feel angry, and even if it's perfectly justified, please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down. Thanks,
>
> Bob

For the record, I have stood by my principle of letting folks say what they wish. (Referring to the past board.) I don't appreciate __slander__, which I must remind is *against the law*. Charges that I somehow "hurt" another are deadly serious in my view, and such made up without any proof. These will not be tolerated. And, I am going to tell my side of the story, once and for all. (I am doing it civil, too.) I put up a board....I gave it and control to a number of other members, as they wished, and that is *all* that happened. I was very ill, and did *not a thing* except provide a vehicle certain people wanted, so please don't accuse me of erroneous, completely incorrect 'crimes' of being abusive, or whatever. I had only two or so email correspondence with anyone involved, and have never had *nothing* to do with any of these individuals barely beyond the above. I have absolutely no idea where this outrageous claim of me being 'abusive' stems from, and will not tolerate my name being tarnished..__slandered__ for something I did not do, whatsoever.

So, in meshing with the rules of this board, I am asking the particular poster to not direct ANY posts towards me, and refrain from even mentioning my name ever again in any post. I have to fall by such guidelines on here, and I expect all of us to. I am falling within the rules of this board, and have used civility to it's full extent. Again, slander is uncivil, and it is also illegal. This is the last I wish to see or hear of this on here.

Sincerely,
Jay

 

Re: being protective..Dr. Bob... » Dr. Bob

Posted by jay on October 4, 2003, at 2:37:05

In reply to Re: being protective, posted by Dr. Bob on September 12, 2003, at 16:46:47

> > > > > don't submit anything about your mental health to Jay. You will regret any association that you have with him. I know. I've been there and was extremely used and hurt by him.He hurt several people who used to post here. He cannot be depended upon.
> > >
> > > Even if you feel angry, and even if it's perfectly justified, please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
> >
> > When is being totally truthful and protective of the members of these boards putting someone down?
>
> When it's disapproving or critical of that person.
>
> > I feel a moral obligation to let others know what he did in the past. I stand by my post.
>
> Well, you have to do what you have to do, but it might also be possible to be protective and civil at the same time, for example:
>
> > > > > don't submit anything about your mental health to others unless you're pretty sure you can trust them. Otherwise, you may regret any association that you have with them. I know. I've been there and felt extremely used and hurt. And several others who used to post here did, too. You can't necessarily depend upon others.
>
> Bob

Bob, as far as being 'protective', we are talking of a case where I have been slandered, and wish *my* protection (and yes, that includes personal distress and being hurt) be taken into account . Hence, since there is no proof of allegations made towards me, I'd appreciate if you take *me* into account. Slander is anti-civil also, and it is also illegal. I will take no further action, but wish (and I have posted so) the individual mentioned does not direct anything (posts, etc.) towards me, or use my name, or refer to me, at all on these boards. I would like to end this now. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Jay

 

Re: being protective..Dr. Bob... » jay

Posted by NikkiT2 on October 4, 2003, at 8:21:11

In reply to Re: being protective..Dr. Bob... » Dr. Bob, posted by jay on October 4, 2003, at 2:37:05

Jay..

I totally support you 100% here.. you did not do any of the things that you have been accused of.. Someone else did all the nasty stuff on that other board.. You simply set the board up.. its not your responsibility.

I really can't understand why the poster is so upset and being so so nasty toward you.

I was there... I watched it all.. I lived part of it (yes, I was subjected the the bad stuff that happened at the other board too).. I have no ill feelings toward you what so ever.. You did a good thing setting the board up for others to use, I'm just so sorry its coming back to haunt you like this.

I agree, it IS slander.

Nikki

 

Re: please be civil » jay

Posted by Dr. Bob on October 6, 2003, at 1:17:07

In reply to Re: being protective..Dr. Bob... » Dr. Bob, posted by jay on October 4, 2003, at 2:37:05

> I don't appreciate __slander__ ... please don't accuse me of erroneous, completely incorrect 'crimes'... I have absolutely no idea where this outrageous claim of me being 'abusive' stems from

Please be sensitive to the feelings of others (even if yours have been hurt) and don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused (including feeling accused of making accusations).

> > > > Even if you feel angry, and even if it's perfectly justified, please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
>
> I ... wish *my* protection ... be taken into account .

That's what I was trying to do...

> So, in meshing with the rules of this board, I am asking the particular poster to not direct ANY posts towards me

Just to make sure this is clear, this type of request is one I decided I should enforce...

> and refrain from even mentioning my name ever again in any post.

But this one isn't...

Bob

 

Re: please be civil » NikkiT2

Posted by Dr. Bob on October 6, 2003, at 1:18:12

In reply to Re: being protective..Dr. Bob... » jay, posted by NikkiT2 on October 4, 2003, at 8:21:11

> Someone else did all the nasty stuff on that other board..
>
> I really can't understand why the poster is ... being so so nasty toward you.

You may not agree with what others have done, but please don't post anything that could lead them to feel accused, thanks.

Bob


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