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Posted by Phillipa on September 5, 2016, at 9:38:54
In reply to Lou's response-anti-Semitism being supportive here » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on September 5, 2016, at 6:58:58
Lou didn't you teach history when teaching? Is there a forum for teachers you might join that share your beliefs? I came here was as going to google a product to buy for a friend unrelated the medications. And glanced at the board and curiousity led me to read this thread. Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 5, 2016, at 9:40:43
In reply to Re: Lou's response-anti-Semitism being supportive here » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on September 5, 2016, at 9:38:54
> Lou didn't you teach history when teaching? Is there a forum for teachers you might join that share your beliefs? I came here was as going to google a product to buy for a friend unrelated the medications. And glanced at the board and curiousity led me to read this thread. Phillipa
My field was Math
Posted by Phillipa on September 5, 2016, at 10:35:26
In reply to Lou's response-anti-Semitism being supportive here, posted by Lou Pilder on September 5, 2016, at 9:40:43
Sorry thought history. Math I do not understand. Phillipa
Posted by Tabitha on September 5, 2016, at 11:42:24
In reply to Lou's response-anti-Semitism being supportive here » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on September 5, 2016, at 6:58:58
> Phillipa,
> I have to assume why you have left this forum as you do not actually say why you have.
> I am retired but as a teacher to see this hatred toward the Jews being created and developed here by another teacher turns my stomach.
> Mr. Hsiung gains from this site as he states that what he does will be in his thinking not only good for his community as a whole, but also good for him.
> To gain by allowing hatred toward others and the Jews to be seen as being supportive, promotes a putrid type of education that has been condemned for decades. But it will go on as long as Larry Hoover and Scott and the others are allowed to post anti-Semitic propaganda with impunity by Hsiung. It could even draw Jew-haters here as they have a haven to post anti-Semitism..
> You have left but look at those that now have joined here. And now with Larry Hoover taking over as Scott has not joined him here, as I think Scott knows better, Larry Hoover is now the leader of the pack.
> LouDo you actually believe the accusations you make against other posters and Dr Bob? If so, you need to seek help, for your thinking is severely distorted. You might start with some cognitive behavioral therapy, which could help enough for you to consider adding medications to your care as needed.
If you don't believe this stuff, well then you're spending your time intentionally making baseless accusations against people struggling to cope with mental illnesses while providing support to their peers, and a doctor who maintains a forum at cost to himself. This is destructive to yourself and others.
I personally can no longer believe that your primary motivation is a misguided crusade to save people from the medications that you mistakenly believe are useless and deadly, as you spend so much of your energy attacking others. It just doesn't add up. Even if you do believe your own anti-psychiatry and religious obsessions, you can't help but notice the negative impact of your many posts, and the continual push-back from posters who find your posts to be un-supportive and un-civil. Again, you need to get help, as having such inability to moderate your behavior to blend with social norms creates big problems for yourself and others.
Please get help somewhere, and stop your destructive behavior here.
Posted by Larry Hoover on September 5, 2016, at 15:50:26
In reply to Lou's response-And then there's Lou » Larry Hoover, posted by Lou Pilder on September 5, 2016, at 9:38:49
Lou, now you're accusing me of acting in a conspiracy with Dr. Bob? Lou, you are the biggest mistake Dr. Bob ever made.
It is none of your business what I take or don't take, Lou. You already clearly demonstrated to me that you will spin my personal decisions in any way that suits your bizarre thinking.
Petitio principii, Lou. You are the poster child.
I don't care if you wear a burkini or not, Lou. You religion, your sexual identity, are none of my concern.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on September 5, 2016, at 15:53:03
In reply to Lou's response-anti-Semitism being supportive here, posted by Lou Pilder on September 5, 2016, at 9:40:43
>
> My field was MathYou proved in spades that your field was neither chemistry nor logic, without doubt.
Math? You wouldn't know a proof from a hole in the ground. You sure as hell never constructed one here.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on September 5, 2016, at 15:56:29
In reply to Re: please get help » Lou Pilder, posted by Tabitha on September 5, 2016, at 11:42:24
> Do you actually believe the accusations you make against other posters and Dr Bob? If so, you need to seek help, for your thinking is severely distorted. You might start with some cognitive behavioral therapy, which could help enough for you to consider adding medications to your care as needed.
>
> If you don't believe this stuff, well then you're spending your time intentionally making baseless accusations against people struggling to cope with mental illnesses while providing support to their peers, and a doctor who maintains a forum at cost to himself. This is destructive to yourself and others.
>
> I personally can no longer believe that your primary motivation is a misguided crusade to save people from the medications that you mistakenly believe are useless and deadly, as you spend so much of your energy attacking others. It just doesn't add up. Even if you do believe your own anti-psychiatry and religious obsessions, you can't help but notice the negative impact of your many posts, and the continual push-back from posters who find your posts to be un-supportive and un-civil. Again, you need to get help, as having such inability to moderate your behavior to blend with social norms creates big problems for yourself and others.
>
> Please get help somewhere, and stop your destructive behavior here.Thank you, Tabitha. You have framed the issue in clear and concise terms.
Kind regards,
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on September 5, 2016, at 16:49:12
In reply to Lou's response-anti-Semitism being supportive here » Larry Hoover, posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2016, at 21:53:45
Lou, if you're an academic, you're a piss-poor one. Do you not remember this post, in which I mocked your sorry *ss?
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160501/msgs/1088962.html
Lar
Posted by SLS on September 5, 2016, at 17:55:12
In reply to Re: The Pilderbeast » Lou Pilder, posted by Larry Hoover on September 5, 2016, at 16:49:12
Perhaps now is a good time to repost this:
- Scott
Posted by SLS on September 5, 2016, at 18:05:55
In reply to Trolls and the dark tetrad:, posted by SLS on September 5, 2016, at 17:55:12
> Perhaps now is a good time to repost this:
>
> https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadistsHere is the originally study:
- Scott
Posted by AlexCanada on September 5, 2016, at 19:31:31
In reply to Lou's response-the stomach turning hate here » crabcakebenny, posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2016, at 9:51:31
> > > I stopped posting here maybe a year ago. I return and I see the same problem that I seen back then. Lou Pilder trolling with his holy crusade and discouraging people from taking their life saving medications all while insulting the integrity of the man who created this forum.
> > >
> > > So I ask you Dr Bob... how can you be so foolish as to allow this to continue? Surely dozens if not hundreds of people have stopped posting here thanks to your refusal to ban this troublemaker.
> > >
> > > All Lou Pilder does it cause stress and heartache to those who are suffering and in need of support. This is a community where we should be able to come together rather than argue over the basic validity of taking any of these medications in the first place. We live in 2016 where the proven benefits of many of these pharma drugs are obvious and evident. Yes the big pharma industry at it's core is a corrupt industry but this not take away from the fact that responsible patients have been able to greatly improve the quality of their lives and even save their lives thanks to these medications.
> > >
> > > It spits in the face of everything that a forum like this should stand for when you allow a relentless troll and troublemaker like Lou Pilder to keep posting. There is no other medical forum in the world that would tolerate his nonsense. Yet somehow you don't mind at all. Perhaps you do not care about the integrity of your forum at all or are utterly incapable of using proper judgement to keep this place afloat.
> > >
> > > I think it would do a lot of good for us to make a stand. Either Lou Pilder goes or we all go.
> > >
> > > This place used to be a quality forum but you have allowed it to turn into this senseless mess. I don't know how you can look yourself in the mirror each morning considering your lack of judgment has compromised the health and well being of everyone posting on this forum. You have allowed your own forum to become destroyed.
> > >
> > > Good job! LOU Pilder won after all.
> >
> > I would suggest maybe migrating to a different forum; /r/depressionregimens has an active userbase and regularly shares journal links and articles dealing with pioneering research on depression. Longecity might be good too if you're more into the DIY treatments. I agree that Lou has ruined the quality of this board and I'm baffled he's still allowed to post.
>
> crab cake,
> ou wrote that Lou has rtuined the quality of this forum. On the contrary. I have raised the quality of this foru.
> Look now at the results.
> A. My major persecutor, Larry Hoover has stopped posting his defamation against me here and has eschewed all psychotropic drugs.
> B. My chief persecutor , Scott, has stopped advocating drugs recently and that could be a result of him re thinking what the consequences to those that take his advice could be including the people taking his advise be killed by the drugs he promotes here.
> C. Mr. Hsiung has stopped posting here and that could be that his last dialog with me could have awakened him to what he is doing here by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as being supportive by him.
> D. Alex left for a year which spared me his attacks upon my character and now that he has returned, he could se that his efforts to defame me may in themselves cause a depreciation of this forum.
> E. A poster here admitted that I was correct in that she was deceived by the psychiatrist into addiction.
> F. Readers here at confronted with the fact that they can not post what I am wrong about and stoop to defamation against me that has not swayed Mr. Hsiung to use the ancient tactic of expelling the Jews to appease the Jew-haters here that want me expelled.
> G. The pathways to have anti-Semitism induced into the minds of readers here that create and develop anti-Semitic hate are slowing being closed by me in spite of all of Hsiung's efforts to justify them as being good in his thinking for his community as a whole because the community is not good by him making those pathways to entertain hate in the minds of readers here because readers are perceiving that this forum is in ruins. It is in ruins because it is built on hatred toward the Jews and myself as being what will be good for Hsiung and his community as a whole. The focus here is upon me to be stopped. This is nothing new as scapegoating is the main anti-Semitic tactic that has resulted in millions of Jews being tortured and killed because they object to the stigmatization that scapegoating attaches to Jews that is allowed here by Hsiung which turns my stomach.
> There is a whole lot more...
> Lou
How ironic is it that you just like so many who post here is in dire need of serious medication. You exhibit clear signs of delusion, paranoia, and believe everyone is out to get the Jews. All the while none of us have even made any indication that we have anything against them. You are obsessive, delusional, sociopathic, dishonest, and have megalomaniac tendencies.I would go so far as to say you are suffering from a sadistic personality disorder. You need serious help.
It would do a lot of good for you to be on a heavy dose of anti-psychotics.
You are a perfect case for why some people truly need medication. You spend every waking moment of your life obsessing over paranoid delusions.
Posted by AlexCanada on September 5, 2016, at 19:35:38
In reply to Lou's response-creating the pathways against Jews » Lou Pilder, posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2016, at 10:30:43
> > > > I stopped posting here maybe a year ago. I return and I see the same problem that I seen back then. Lou Pilder trolling with his holy crusade and discouraging people from taking their life saving medications all while insulting the integrity of the man who created this forum.
> > > >
> > > > So I ask you Dr Bob... how can you be so foolish as to allow this to continue? Surely dozens if not hundreds of people have stopped posting here thanks to your refusal to ban this troublemaker.
> > > >
> > > > All Lou Pilder does it cause stress and heartache to those who are suffering and in need of support. This is a community where we should be able to come together rather than argue over the basic validity of taking any of these medications in the first place. We live in 2016 where the proven benefits of many of these pharma drugs are obvious and evident. Yes the big pharma industry at it's core is a corrupt industry but this not take away from the fact that responsible patients have been able to greatly improve the quality of their lives and even save their lives thanks to these medications.
> > > >
> > > > It spits in the face of everything that a forum like this should stand for when you allow a relentless troll and troublemaker like Lou Pilder to keep posting. There is no other medical forum in the world that would tolerate his nonsense. Yet somehow you don't mind at all. Perhaps you do not care about the integrity of your forum at all or are utterly incapable of using proper judgement to keep this place afloat.
> > > >
> > > > I think it would do a lot of good for us to make a stand. Either Lou Pilder goes or we all go.
> > > >
> > > > This place used to be a quality forum but you have allowed it to turn into this senseless mess. I don't know how you can look yourself in the mirror each morning considering your lack of judgment has compromised the health and well being of everyone posting on this forum. You have allowed your own forum to become destroyed.
> > > >
> > > > Good job! LOU Pilder won after all.
> > >
> > > I would suggest maybe migrating to a different forum; /r/depressionregimens has an active userbase and regularly shares journal links and articles dealing with pioneering research on depression. Longecity might be good too if you're more into the DIY treatments. I agree that Lou has ruined the quality of this board and I'm baffled he's still allowed to post.
> >
> > crab cake,
> > ou wrote that Lou has rtuined the quality of this forum. On the contrary. I have raised the quality of this foru.
> > Look now at the results.
> > A. My major persecutor, Larry Hoover has stopped posting his defamation against me here and has eschewed all psychotropic drugs.
> > B. My chief persecutor , Scott, has stopped advocating drugs recently and that could be a result of him re thinking what the consequences to those that take his advice could be including the people taking his advise be killed by the drugs he promotes here.
> > C. Mr. Hsiung has stopped posting here and that could be that his last dialog with me could have awakened him to what he is doing here by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as being supportive by him.
> > D. Alex left for a year which spared me his attacks upon my character and now that he has returned, he could se that his efforts to defame me may in themselves cause a depreciation of this forum.
> > E. A poster here admitted that I was correct in that she was deceived by the psychiatrist into addiction.
> > F. Readers here at confronted with the fact that they can not post what I am wrong about and stoop to defamation against me that has not swayed Mr. Hsiung to use the ancient tactic of expelling the Jews to appease the Jew-haters here that want me expelled.
> > G. The pathways to have anti-Semitism induced into the minds of readers here that create and develop anti-Semitic hate are slowing being closed by me in spite of all of Hsiung's efforts to justify them as being good in his thinking for his community as a whole because the community is not good by him making those pathways to entertain hate in the minds of readers here because readers are perceiving that this forum is in ruins. It is in ruins because it is built on hatred toward the Jews and myself as being what will be good for Hsiung and his community as a whole. The focus here is upon me to be stopped. This is nothing new as scapegoating is the main anti-Semitic tactic that has resulted in millions of Jews being tortured and killed because they object to the stigmatization that scapegoating attaches to Jews that is allowed here by Hsiung which turns my stomach.
> > There is a whole lot more...
> > Lou
>
> Friends,
> crabcake does not specify or even justify the defamation posted against me here with the putrid tactic of scapegoating that psychologists have written about as one of the most hateful tactics against Jews that Mr. Hsiung allows here in this community of hate.
> Here Mr. Hsiung spells out an attempt by him that fails his own TOS and attempts to justify creating a channel and passageway to justify anti-Semitism being allowed to be posted here by him. Look at his attempted justification that leaves the Jews vulnerable to the humiliation of being in a community that promotes anti-Semitism as being civil by him.
> These pathways to hate can not lead to your recovery and therefore Hsiung destroys what support could come to you by guiding readers to believe that anti-Semitism is supportive.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140902/msgs/1078750.htmlThis is perhaps the 1,000th message this year where you have obsessed over some vast evil anti-semetic conspiracy.
Any qualified doctor would diagnose you as a crazed nut.
Posted by AlexCanada on September 5, 2016, at 19:41:27
In reply to Re: This forum's been ruined. Dr Bob should be ashamed, posted by Lamdage22 on September 4, 2016, at 11:33:54
> > I really think that we save lives.
> > And we need to continue to help others in need, but another platform is a good idea.
>
>
> A platform that doesnt allow Lou to post. Absolutely. Please count me in if you migrate to another forum. THX
>
Please let me know what forum you guys decide. If dr Bob is satisfied with his forum being destroyed then we should honor his wish. What a horrid example of poor judgement. This man is not fit to be anyone's doctor by entertaining and enabling Lou Pilder's psychotic delusions. Makes me wonder. Did Lou Blackmail him? What reason could someone have to allow this nut to desecrate his own forum? It makes no sense.
Posted by AlexCanada on September 5, 2016, at 19:44:14
In reply to Lou's response-Get caught in the net » Lamdage22, posted by Lou Pilder on September 4, 2016, at 12:11:17
> > > I really think that we save lives.
> > > And we need to continue to help others in need, but another platform is a good idea.
> >
> >
> > A platform that doesnt allow Lou to post. Absolutely. Please count me in if you migrate to another forum. THX
> >
> Friends,
> Be not drawn into the vortex of hate being created and developed by Mr. Hsiung allowing defamation to be posted against me with impunity.
> The poster could state his reason for wanting my voice to be stilled here but does not. What does that tell you?
> You see, the core tactic started centuries ago that led to millions of Jews being murdered was to isolate the Jews in Ghettos and expel them if they comingled with the Christians.
> So you see that this is nothing new here. Anti-Semitism means against the Jew. But it could also mean against the Jew having equality in the community. The poster here wants inequality imposed upon me here while the non-Jews can post defamation against me with Hsiung giving them immunity from his enforcement policy.
> But it is much worse than that for Hsiung opens up another channel for hatred toward the Jews to have members access to a pathway that leads to hate. And when they are drawn to the channel that leads to hatred toward the Jews, they can become trapped in the net of deceit to be drowned in their own hate.
> This is supportive by Mr. Hsiung. Your blood will not be upon me.
> Lou
>You have jews jews jews on your mind every minute of the day. Please seek serious mental help. I suggest a heavy dose of Risperdal or Abilify.
You are a disgusting human being who has caused infinitely more harm than good.
Posted by 10derheart on September 6, 2016, at 2:46:39
In reply to Re: This forum's been ruined. Dr Bob should be ashamed » jonhed, posted by Larry Hoover on September 4, 2016, at 15:17:07
...you still rock.
And...butter tarts!
:-)
Posted by Poet on September 6, 2016, at 11:46:40
In reply to I remember and » Larry Hoover, posted by 10derheart on September 6, 2016, at 2:46:39
I told Dr. Bob to his face over two years ago that he was enabling an un-medicated paranoid schizophrenic to control his website. His response was that this individual has "no friends." I said there's a reason for that.
Bob is in private practice, he no longer needs to write papers or give lectures to impress academic peers so his online experiment is over.
Poet
Posted by Tabitha on September 6, 2016, at 12:13:46
In reply to I needed a good laugh so I came here, posted by Poet on September 6, 2016, at 11:46:40
> His response was that this individual has "no friends." I said there's a reason for that.
I admire his compassion and desire to help Lou, but I don't think Lou is actually helped by being here. Look at how much negative attention he gets. It either hurts, or gives him whatever enjoyment some people get from negative attention and subsequently lashing out. None of that is ultimately good for him.
>
> Bob is in private practice, he no longer needs to write papers or give lectures to impress academic peers so his online experiment is over.
>It's nice to know what happened to him.
Posted by Larry Hoover on September 6, 2016, at 16:02:44
In reply to I remember and » Larry Hoover, posted by 10derheart on September 6, 2016, at 2:46:39
> ...you still rock.
>
> And...butter tarts!
>
> :-)Aw, sweetheart tender. I am so pleased that we had a chance to meet. And to share butter tarts together. :-)
I'm in Vienna, at the moment, attending a scientific conference hosted by the International Atomic Energy Agency at the UNOC compound. We're putting the final touches on nuclear reactor designs that simply can't melt down. The Gen IV reactors have absolute fail-safe capability.
You and others helped me get here. I'm very grateful.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on September 6, 2016, at 16:06:19
In reply to I needed a good laugh so I came here, posted by Poet on September 6, 2016, at 11:46:40
> I told Dr. Bob to his face over two years ago that he was enabling an un-medicated paranoid schizophrenic to control his website. His response was that this individual has "no friends." I said there's a reason for that.
>
> Bob is in private practice, he no longer needs to write papers or give lectures to impress academic peers so his online experiment is over.
>
> PoetDid we not determine, Poetess, that we were both metal roosters, while visiting the Bata Shoe Museum?
I can't believe Bob made such a sorry *ss excuse to protect Lou. And now, Lou has turned on him. Karma?
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on September 6, 2016, at 16:09:31
In reply to Re: I needed a good laugh so I came here, posted by Tabitha on September 6, 2016, at 12:13:46
Thank you, Tabatha, for your contributions on this thread, and others involving Lou. I admire your ability to provide concise and well-reasoned commentary.
Lar
Posted by Poet on September 6, 2016, at 16:15:44
In reply to Re: I needed a good laugh so I came here » Poet, posted by Larry Hoover on September 6, 2016, at 16:06:19
Hi Larry,
It is indeed karma and I am indeed a fellow metal rooster.
Toronto was wonderful, my last meeting with Bob- far from it.
Poet
Posted by linkadge on September 6, 2016, at 19:09:46
In reply to Re: I remember and » 10derheart, posted by Larry Hoover on September 6, 2016, at 16:02:44
>The Gen IV reactors have absolute fail-safe >capability.
I'll hold you to that :)
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on September 6, 2016, at 19:18:59
In reply to Re: I remember and » Larry Hoover, posted by linkadge on September 6, 2016, at 19:09:46
And thanks for checking in BTW!
(I seem to have deteriorated to some extent - mainly due my conclusion that teaching high school mathematics is incredibly unrewarding).
Linkadge
Posted by baseball55 on September 6, 2016, at 20:00:54
In reply to Re: I remember and » 10derheart, posted by Larry Hoover on September 6, 2016, at 16:02:44
Totally off-topic and maybe you could reply on the social board, but really? If nuclear could be so safe, there goes are carbon fuel problem. Am very interested in this. And glad you've reached a point in your recovery where you can be there.
We're putting the final touches on nuclear reactor designs that simply can't melt down. The Gen IV reactors have absolute fail-safe capability.
>
> You and others helped me get here. I'm very grateful.
>
> Lar
>
Posted by Phillipa on September 6, 2016, at 20:19:12
In reply to Re: I remember and » Larry Hoover, posted by baseball55 on September 6, 2016, at 20:00:54
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