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Posted by jonhed on June 21, 2016, at 13:09:50
In reply to Re: » jonhed, posted by SLS on June 20, 2016, at 16:10:03
Okey.. I'm sorry for being angry.
I just hink that everyone should have the right to write here, and especially if the person is in obvious need for it.Lou is human to you know.
But i get what you mean and i'm sorry for being aggressive.
Posted by jonhed on June 21, 2016, at 14:37:04
In reply to Re: options » jonhed, posted by Tabitha on June 20, 2016, at 15:29:46
You're right, it belongs in the faith board.
No.. i't not offensive that others not have the same opinions as me, at least it shouldn't be.
Sometimes i just think that some people (I can't remember exactly which, but it's not important) is very harsh when it comes to Lou.
I really don't think he's a troll, i honestly, hand on my heart, don't think that.
But i Do understand that some people getting sick of the aggressive behavior that Lou is expressing, and yes, it can be very offensive, i know.
But i think we understand each other. Think really hard what i mean by that, really really hard, and you will understand exactly what i mean.
And the thing is that Lou also understands this.
I just feel for people and i know that all of you do to. So sorry for the things i wrote.
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 21, 2016, at 15:06:04
In reply to Re: options, posted by jonhed on June 21, 2016, at 14:37:04
> You're right, it belongs in the faith board.
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> No.. i't not offensive that others not have the same opinions as me, at least it shouldn't be.
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> Sometimes i just think that some people (I can't remember exactly which, but it's not important) is very harsh when it comes to Lou.
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> I really don't think he's a troll, i honestly, hand on my heart, don't think that.
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> But i Do understand that some people getting sick of the aggressive behavior that Lou is expressing, and yes, it can be very offensive, i know.
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> But i think we understand each other. Think really hard what i mean by that, really really hard, and you will understand exactly what i mean.
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> And the thing is that Lou also understands this.
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> I just feel for people and i know that all of you do to. So sorry for the things i wrote.jonhed,
You wrote,[...I really don't think he's a troll (Lou)....I honestsly hand in my heart don't think that...].
You made a determination as to if I am a troll or not based on facts that your heart agreed with.
I am interested in what those facts are that you used to make your determination. Could you post here what you used?
Lou
Posted by Tabitha on June 21, 2016, at 15:25:50
In reply to Re: options, posted by jonhed on June 21, 2016, at 14:37:04
> But i think we understand each other. Think really hard what i mean by that, really really hard, and you will understand exactly what i mean.I think so. Like you, I don't think anyone here fits my definition of a troll, and even if they did, I don't think name-calling is helpful. And I agree people are here because they need support (except possibly for the online pharmacy spammers).
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> And the thing is that Lou also understands this.
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> I just feel for people and i know that all of you do to. So sorry for the things i wrote.Thanks for replying and for being empathetic. It's great when people listen and try to meet halfway.
Posted by linkadge on June 21, 2016, at 19:35:12
In reply to Re: Lou's urgent warning-, posted by jonhed on June 20, 2016, at 12:11:26
Jonhed, I think you are taking SLSs comments the wrong way.
SLSs is not saying that this board is only for an elite group of privileged posters.
The point is that the board here has a purpose. The purpose is to help people through medication related issues.
If you feel that medications are evil and do more harm than good then so be it. Tell people, and then go on with your life. What is the point of sitting here for decades (day in day out) telling people that they are evil for taking medications?
The point is that, this isn't the venue for a constant stream of anti-medication rhetoric.
At least that's the way I see it.
Linakdge
Posted by linkadge on June 21, 2016, at 19:36:06
In reply to Re: options » jonhed, posted by Tabitha on June 20, 2016, at 15:29:46
Tolerance taken to the extreme is a form of intolerance
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on June 21, 2016, at 19:47:23
In reply to Re: Lou's urgent warning-, posted by jonhed on June 20, 2016, at 12:11:26
>Oh, i can't describe in words how wrong this is >from a humane perspective, and especially from so >many self diagnosed doctors here who thinks that >they have all the right information.
We don't think we have all the right information. Psychobabble is just one of (literally dozens and dozens) of tools that I utilize on my path to staying well. Psychobabble (nor any psychiatrist) has all the answers.
If a psychiatrist told me he had all the answers, I would run as fast as possible the other way.
If you open an encyclopedia Britannica to the chapter on Ford automobiles, do you expect to read an article on gay porn? What happens, if I personally want an article on gay porn published in Britianica under the heading "Ford Automobile". Certainly, I should have the right to do so!! Shouldn't I??
The great part about the internet, is (should you hate medication, psychiatrists, and therapists) there are websites just for you.
Linkadge
Posted by jonhed on June 23, 2016, at 18:04:08
In reply to Re: understanding » jonhed, posted by Tabitha on June 21, 2016, at 15:25:50
Thanks tabitha. I think you also know that sometimes you get angry over things because the life around you is a living hell for that period of time.
And to say "i'm sorry" after, and be tolerated is very kind of you!
Thanks.
Posted by jonhed on June 23, 2016, at 18:17:22
In reply to Re: Lou's urgent warning-, posted by linkadge on June 21, 2016, at 19:47:23
I'm sorry that you took it personal linkadge..
I had a though day that day and took it out on the wrong people.
And yes, of course you have the right to read Britannica in a erotic way if you want that and gives you pleasure. I'm very liberal as it comes to that sort of things.Some people thinks that automobiles is arousing, and it's nothing wrong with that in my own opinion.
I feel that you may not like me and my opinions about things. Maybe it is because we come from two different worlds?
I think that usa is nice and was sincerely touched when you got the health care thing when obama came in as a president. And i hope that it has changed things for the psychiatry. Cause what i've read, some people need to pay 100 dollar for one month of medications, and that mad.. I hope that obama took care of that and made it free, i don't know.
I don't really know what you are so angry about, but i feel very sad now when i read your post.I just want to help, and emotions is something we all need to express, or else we end up being caught in our self. Angry is a natural way to react, and we should be able to be angry on this forum, right?
My psychiatrist says that anyway.
With no emotions here, this would be a flat and terrible forum.
I hope you're okey linkadge.
Posted by jonhed on June 23, 2016, at 18:24:36
In reply to Re: options » Tabitha, posted by linkadge on June 21, 2016, at 19:36:06
That is your opinion, and you have the right to have it.
I really much like tolerance to an extreme form, cause often people commit suicide when people don't tolerate them as they are.
More than one thinks.And to me, i rather tolerate every opinion one has ever have had here, rather then offend them and have blood on my hands.
Cause mather of fact, no one here has had opinions that could be so offensive that i should be called intolerant.
I can't even make that connection right now.
But i'm sorry if you feel that way.
I will respect you with not posting in your threads. I think it's for the best.
I don't want you to feel worse, or anyone for that mather.
I care about every one here.
Including lou!
Posted by jonhed on June 23, 2016, at 18:47:30
In reply to Lou's request-the determination » jonhed, posted by Lou Pilder on June 21, 2016, at 15:06:04
Lou:
If i understand you question right (i have not english as my first language, this grammar is just what we learned in middle school in sweden, as i dropped out when i was 13 years old lol).
If you're asking how i came up with the assumption that you're not a troll, then my answer is this.
1. Some people feel in their heart what is real and what is not.
2. You do not copy/paste your texts - meaning that you spend to much time here for being a troll.
3. Nothing you write is provocative to me (But you have to understand that everyone isn't me, and maybe cut down on the aggressive stuff..), and a troll would write provocative things rather than religious things.
4. You have a consistent theme that you have had for over a year. That is not something a troll would have.
5. You want to help people get of the meds that you are thinking is dangerous, that's an act of empathy, not a thing you do for messing things up here.
6. You like this thread Lou! Admit it ;-) there's no shame in that!
7. I feel in my heart that you are a nice person, i know it in my heart.
And how do i do that? Know things in my heart?
Take a guess Lou. Black magic? Thelema? Magick?
No.... hehe!!
I just can feel it. I am spiritual to, but in the same caliber as you Lou, in another way.
But also a "light" way, not a "dark" way.But you did know that already didn't you? :-)
Plus we are approximately in the same age and comes from, sort of, the same background, if you know what i mean.
Ask more things if you want!And i will be f*ing mad if you start to conspirating about me now.
So look into your heart before you answer this post from me now.Kind regards / J
Posted by jonhed on June 23, 2016, at 18:55:54
In reply to Re: Lou's request-the determination, posted by jonhed on June 23, 2016, at 18:47:30
"I am spiritual to, but not* in the same caliber as you Lou, in another way."
I don't want misunderstandings between us Lou, and i missed the "not" because i'm damn tired.
In sweden the time is 1.55 am (or pm. Night anyway so you know that i mean)
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 24, 2016, at 10:24:33
In reply to Re: Lou's request-the determination, posted by jonhed on June 23, 2016, at 18:47:30
> Lou:
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> If i understand you question right (i have not english as my first language, this grammar is just what we learned in middle school in sweden, as i dropped out when i was 13 years old lol).
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> If you're asking how i came up with the assumption that you're not a troll, then my answer is this.
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> 1. Some people feel in their heart what is real and what is not.
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> 2. You do not copy/paste your texts - meaning that you spend to much time here for being a troll.
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> 3. Nothing you write is provocative to me (But you have to understand that everyone isn't me, and maybe cut down on the aggressive stuff..), and a troll would write provocative things rather than religious things.
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> 4. You have a consistent theme that you have had for over a year. That is not something a troll would have.
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> 5. You want to help people get of the meds that you are thinking is dangerous, that's an act of empathy, not a thing you do for messing things up here.
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> 6. You like this thread Lou! Admit it ;-) there's no shame in that!
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> 7. I feel in my heart that you are a nice person, i know it in my heart.
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> And how do i do that? Know things in my heart?
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> Take a guess Lou. Black magic? Thelema? Magick?
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> No.... hehe!!
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> I just can feel it. I am spiritual to, but in the same caliber as you Lou, in another way.
> But also a "light" way, not a "dark" way.
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> But you did know that already didn't you? :-)
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> Plus we are approximately in the same age and comes from, sort of, the same background, if you know what i mean.
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> Ask more things if you want!
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> And i will be f*ing mad if you start to conspirating about me now.
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> So look into your heart before you answer this post from me now.
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> Kind regards / J
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> jonhed, You wrote,[...you want to help people...].
I am glad that you see that. Others could have me portrayed in a false light which can obscure what you can see through. But many can not see through the hate and defamation and anti-Semitic propaganda allowed to be posted here against me by Mr. Hsiung. That could cause them to reject what could save their lives. And many have been killed by the drugs here.
Lou
Posted by jonhed on June 24, 2016, at 15:38:32
In reply to Lou's reply-killed by the drugs » jonhed, posted by Lou Pilder on June 24, 2016, at 10:24:33
I don't know about the anti-Semitic thing as i don't know much about religion at all, but as i say, i know that you just want to help.
Are you taking any medications or just food, love and light? (It's a real question.)
Do you practice yoga or something like that?
And yeah, i'm scared of these drugs to. I think some of them, not all though, can be very dangerous.
And some never get to know before it's to late unfortunately.
But how can you be anti every drug?Don't you think that some of the drugs om the market are effective and not dangerous?
Myself, as i said, believe that the old "clean" drugs have the least side effects.
Like full agonists and ergolines (in small doses) from hoffmans old work.
Do you like hoffman?
I've always thought that he was a truly dedicated man that wanted to help people for real.
Oh, i'm so bored tonight.. just sitting and can barely hold up my eyes from starting the clonazepam. Maybe i started to high (2mg), but what the hell, my anxiety is completely gone so i have nothing to be angry over.
You like benzos? I don't think that but it's worth a try to ask you that hehe..
I guess that you're clean now and have been for a while, isn't that right?Kind Kind regards to you Lou. You're a good person!
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 24, 2016, at 18:08:07
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-killed by the drugs, posted by jonhed on June 24, 2016, at 15:38:32
> I don't know about the anti-Semitic thing as i don't know much about religion at all, but as i say, i know that you just want to help.
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> Are you taking any medications or just food, love and light? (It's a real question.)
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> Do you practice yoga or something like that?
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> And yeah, i'm scared of these drugs to. I think some of them, not all though, can be very dangerous.
> And some never get to know before it's to late unfortunately.
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> But how can you be anti every drug?
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> Don't you think that some of the drugs om the market are effective and not dangerous?
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> Myself, as i said, believe that the old "clean" drugs have the least side effects.
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> Like full agonists and ergolines (in small doses) from hoffmans old work.
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> Do you like hoffman?
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> I've always thought that he was a truly dedicated man that wanted to help people for real.
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> Oh, i'm so bored tonight.. just sitting and can barely hold up my eyes from starting the clonazepam. Maybe i started to high (2mg), but what the hell, my anxiety is completely gone so i have nothing to be angry over.
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> You like benzos? I don't think that but it's worth a try to ask you that hehe..
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> I guess that you're clean now and have been for a while, isn't that right?
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> Kind Kind regards to you Lou. You're a good person!
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jonhed,
You wrote,[...and some never get to know before it is too late...].
This is one of the great tragedies here. You see, I am prohibited from posting about the drugs that you have listed by Mr. Hsiung. If there was not the prohibition to me by him, I think that I could lead you out of your depression/anxiety and such to be healed and escape death from the drugs that are prescribed to you.
It could be too late.
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on June 24, 2016, at 18:20:08
In reply to Lou's reply-too late » jonhed, posted by Lou Pilder on June 24, 2016, at 18:08:07
Lou he's a nice guy please leave him alone & from another country. Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 24, 2016, at 18:31:17
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-too late » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on June 24, 2016, at 18:20:08
> Lou he's a nice guy please leave him alone & from another country. Phillipa
Phillipa,
Death can come from these drugs to those in other countries also. Even to nice guys.
You see, my Death-O-Meter is reading to the end in relation to this poster. And here, others could tell him to take more drugs and cause his death. His blood will not be upon me.
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on June 24, 2016, at 18:53:41
In reply to Lou's reply-Anna » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on June 24, 2016, at 18:31:17
I know you care but he requires some form of medication. Many take antibiotics for infections. Do you agree this is a good thing or disease would run rampant in the world? Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 25, 2016, at 7:36:43
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-Anna » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on June 24, 2016, at 18:53:41
> I know you care but he requires some form of medication. Many take antibiotics for infections. Do you agree this is a good thing or disease would run rampant in the world? Phillipa
Phillipa,
You wrote,[...he requires some form of medication...].
The chemicals promoted here by the psychiatrist are not medicines, for they do not treat a disease and they do not cure. They cause disease, life-ruining conditions, addiction and death.
The medicine that I could give people here could give them a new heart and a new spirit that could give them life, and life more abundantly. The tragedy here is that addiction and death from the drugs of the psychiatrist is promoted as being supportive, which is a fraud of the magnitude not known until the last 50 years of history. How could readers neglect such horrible facts that thousands of people are killed each month by these drugs promoted by psychiatry? Psychiatry is the biggest fraud of all.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 25, 2016, at 8:21:29
In reply to Lou's reply-the biggest fraud of all » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on June 25, 2016, at 7:36:43
> > I know you care but he requires some form of medication. Many take antibiotics for infections. Do you agree this is a good thing or disease would run rampant in the world? Phillipa
>
> Phillipa,
> You wrote,[...he requires some form of medication...].
> The chemicals promoted here by the psychiatrist are not medicines, for they do not treat a disease and they do not cure. They cause disease, life-ruining conditions, addiction and death.
> The medicine that I could give people here could give them a new heart and a new spirit that could give them life, and life more abundantly. The tragedy here is that addiction and death from the drugs of the psychiatrist is promoted as being supportive, which is a fraud of the magnitude not known until the last 50 years of history. How could readers neglect such horrible facts that thousands of people are killed each month by these drugs promoted by psychiatry? Psychiatry is the biggest fraud of all.
> LouPhillipa,
You wrote,[...antibiots...do you agree that this is a good thing?...].
What has been revealed to me is that 1/4 of the people in the world will be killed not by antibiotics, BUT BECAUSE OF ANTIBIOTICS.
This revelation is not permitted by Mr. Hsiung for me to post here. I know why.
And in this revelation I heard a noise like thunder and a beast came to me and said, "Come and see."
And I saw, and behold a white horse: and He that sat on him had a bow, and a crown was given to him and he went forth conquering and to conquer. And then another beast said to me, "Come and see." And I looked, and behold a pale horse; and his name that sat on him was Death, and hell followed with him. And power was given to them over the forth part of the earth, to kill with sword , and with hunger and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
You see, I know what psychiatry does not want you to know. For if you were to know, you could live and escape death and hell.
Anti-Semitism means against the Jew. It also could mean against life.
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on June 25, 2016, at 9:26:39
In reply to Lou's reply-1/4 of those on the earth, posted by Lou Pilder on June 25, 2016, at 8:21:29
Problem with antibiotics is that they have become resistant to illnesses and disease from over use. Bacteria are now mutated and not cured with the antibiotics. Hence we now have MRSA, and the flesh eating bacteria. I myself do not believe in anticholoesterol medications unless one has heart disease. How do you feel about surgery to insert stents in cholesterol clogged arteries that have caused a heart attack. Or the clot busting streptokinase and the others to dissolve clots if given with in three hours of a stroke to help to prevent brain damage? So much can go wrong with ones body like cancer and what would you do if you got this do chemo, radiation? Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 25, 2016, at 9:46:50
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-1/4 of those on the earth » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on June 25, 2016, at 9:26:39
> Problem with antibiotics is that they have become resistant to illnesses and disease from over use. Bacteria are now mutated and not cured with the antibiotics. Hence we now have MRSA, and the flesh eating bacteria. I myself do not believe in anticholoesterol medications unless one has heart disease. How do you feel about surgery to insert stents in cholesterol clogged arteries that have caused a heart attack. Or the clot busting streptokinase and the others to dissolve clots if given with in three hours of a stroke to help to prevent brain damage? So much can go wrong with ones body like cancer and what would you do if you got this do chemo, radiation? Phillipa
Phillipa,
You wrote, [...we now have MRSA...].
What is coming as revealed to me involves what we have done because of antibiotics. There will be a new disease that is immune to any antibiotic and be worse than the black death.
The tragedy here is that the drugs that you promote here are all part of The Great Deception that Mr. Hsiung prohibits me to post about here. It would come from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me and Mr. Hsiung knows that. Anti-Semitism means against the Jew, but it could also mean against Judaism itself.
Those that are swayed to take these drugs by Mr. Hsiung could suffer a horrible death by them. Their blood will not be upon me.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 25, 2016, at 9:58:47
In reply to Lou's reply-their blood » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on June 25, 2016, at 9:46:50
> > Problem with antibiotics is that they have become resistant to illnesses and disease from over use. Bacteria are now mutated and not cured with the antibiotics. Hence we now have MRSA, and the flesh eating bacteria. I myself do not believe in anticholoesterol medications unless one has heart disease. How do you feel about surgery to insert stents in cholesterol clogged arteries that have caused a heart attack. Or the clot busting streptokinase and the others to dissolve clots if given with in three hours of a stroke to help to prevent brain damage? So much can go wrong with ones body like cancer and what would you do if you got this do chemo, radiation? Phillipa
>
> Phillipa,
> You wrote, [...we now have MRSA...].
> What is coming as revealed to me involves what we have done because of antibiotics. There will be a new disease that is immune to any antibiotic and be worse than the black death.
> The tragedy here is that the drugs that you promote here are all part of The Great Deception that Mr. Hsiung prohibits me to post about here. It would come from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me and Mr. Hsiung knows that. Anti-Semitism means against the Jew, but it could also mean against Judaism itself.
> Those that are swayed to take these drugs by Mr. Hsiung could suffer a horrible death by them. Their blood will not be upon me.
> Lou
Here we have the promotion of mind-altering drugs by a psychiatrist. These drugs kill children that mothers give them in collaboration with a psychiatrist. They kill adults and the drugs cause thinking to kill others and themselves. How many others have been fooled? Is it any wonder, that you know what I have been talking about here, and soon you could think that you have been the biggest fool of all.
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on June 25, 2016, at 10:58:47
In reply to Lou's reply-of all, posted by Lou Pilder on June 25, 2016, at 9:58:47
No medical issues in your family? History? Did you know some diseases or conditions are directed at blacks like sickle cell anemia, Some for redheads like melanoma , then blue eyed blonds. Cataracts effects anyone getting older, do you wear glasses and see an eye doctor? If so they dilate you eyes and that is with a drug and it's in the eye close to the brain. Botox now used to relieve depression in some if injected in the furrows of the forehead. And that is a botulism drug. So you see all classes of drugs whether psychiatric or other can be dangerous. surgery you sign a waver than it can cause death. So what then? And certain illnesses are notorious for being founds in some Jewish people. No one is immune to ever needing a med. Informed consent. Yours to make of free will. Phillipa
Posted by SLS on June 26, 2016, at 13:45:53
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-of all » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on June 25, 2016, at 10:58:47
This is the end of the thread.
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