Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 1078318

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Fk antipsychotics

Posted by Phil on April 17, 2015, at 7:07:23

When I started meds 30 years ago, I weighed 170. I'm almost 100 pounds heavier now thanks to Zyprexa and Seroquel.
I had a two week severe depression and anxiety out the *ss. That was at 600mg's. I told my doctor that I upped Seroquel to 900 and he said let's go with that. I didn't realize that it hasn't been tested at that dose. He had to talk to Medicare to get the dose approved.
I've started walking and still gained 7 pounds in a week.
Now I'm pissed. I want off of this sh*t but I have few other options unless someone here has a miracle pill that is covered by Medicare.
The anxiety and depression were so bad that I couldn't really function. Even if Medicare covered a 'newer med' it will get me into the "donut hole" quicker where they don't pay about 55% of the cost. BTW, I'm on 2000mg of Metformin. It worked amazing at one time. I think the AP dose is so high now that Metformin doesn't do sh*t.
Sorry for my language, you should hear me in person. I'm not willing to get on another older AP because that opens a whole new bag of problems. So, wtf is one supposed to do?

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics

Posted by Lamdage22 on April 17, 2015, at 8:04:03

In reply to Fk antipsychotics, posted by Phil on April 17, 2015, at 7:07:23

You are supposed to try Metformin ASAP.

It really works against weight gain for many people.

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics

Posted by Lamdage22 on April 17, 2015, at 8:05:26

In reply to Fk antipsychotics, posted by Phil on April 17, 2015, at 7:07:23

Oh sorry you already take it.

Metformin can only do so much. My guess is it is still working.

Its just that taking these two meds together is the worst mix you can be on.

I can relate. I take the same meds.

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics

Posted by Lamdage22 on April 17, 2015, at 8:07:44

In reply to Fk antipsychotics, posted by Phil on April 17, 2015, at 7:07:23

Im reducing my meds. 2.5 mg less Zyprexa or 100mg less Seroquel.

Every three months. Thats my plan.

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics » Lamdage22

Posted by Phil on April 17, 2015, at 9:21:31

In reply to Re: Fk antipsychotics, posted by Lamdage22 on April 17, 2015, at 8:07:44

Good luck. I think I woke up a little frustrated today. I shouldn't post after stepping on the scale.

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics

Posted by Christ_empowered on April 17, 2015, at 9:32:34

In reply to Re: Fk antipsychotics » Lamdage22, posted by Phil on April 17, 2015, at 9:21:31

Abilify made me fat. Docs are all "no, you made yourself fat," and I'm like...your f*cking over priced tranquilizer miracle cure all is a fatty pill! But nobody cares what a mental patient says.

I'm currently on a lowish dose wellbutrin sr and I'm losing a bit of weight. I'm hoping it'll help over the long haul, because my pdoc refuses to Rx contrave or metformin. :-(

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics

Posted by Lamdage22 on April 17, 2015, at 11:24:32

In reply to Re: Fk antipsychotics, posted by Christ_empowered on April 17, 2015, at 9:32:34

What happened christ empowered?

You sounded so well the other day!

@Phil: I think the only feasible thing you can do is try to slowly withdraw and at the same time stay on Metformin.

How come you are taking two APs? (i know i currently do the same thing).

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics » Phil

Posted by SLS on April 17, 2015, at 17:29:36

In reply to Fk antipsychotics, posted by Phil on April 17, 2015, at 7:07:23

I don't know what your main symptoms are, but Geodon, Latuda, and Saphris are pretty much weight-neutral. I am partial to Saphris. It seems to be particular good for bipolar depression and for psychotic disorders where paranoia is an issue.

I am trying Saphris right now for bipolar depression. I don't know if the drug is responsible for my feeling better, but I intend to give it a full trial.

Feel better, Phil.


- Scott

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics

Posted by Lamdage22 on April 18, 2015, at 3:07:22

In reply to Re: Fk antipsychotics » Phil, posted by SLS on April 17, 2015, at 17:29:36

I never tried saphris but i heard that its not terribly effective against psychosis??

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics@Scott saphris

Posted by Lamdage22 on April 18, 2015, at 6:57:04

In reply to Re: Fk antipsychotics, posted by Lamdage22 on April 18, 2015, at 3:07:22

Scott,

is saphris an option for me?

I heard its not approved for schizo in Germany because it is weak? Is it?

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics » Lamdage22

Posted by Phil on April 18, 2015, at 12:15:02

In reply to Re: Fk antipsychotics, posted by Lamdage22 on April 17, 2015, at 11:24:32

We dropped the Latuda. Wasn't helping.

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics » SLS

Posted by Phil on April 18, 2015, at 12:17:40

In reply to Re: Fk antipsychotics » Phil, posted by SLS on April 17, 2015, at 17:29:36

Thanks Scott. My problem is that every expensive med that I take gets me closer to the Medicare donut hole. Even if they worked I would be paying half which is impossible right now.

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics@Scott saphris » Lamdage22

Posted by europerep on April 18, 2015, at 12:42:14

In reply to Re: Fk antipsychotics@Scott saphris, posted by Lamdage22 on April 18, 2015, at 6:57:04

> is saphris an option for me?
>
> I heard its not approved for schizo in Germany

Asenapine is available in Germany under the trade name Sycrest, as 5mg and 10mg sublingual tablets.

Just wanted to point that out in case you might want to try it...

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics@Scott saphris

Posted by Lamdage22 on April 18, 2015, at 13:47:52

In reply to Re: Fk antipsychotics@Scott saphris » Lamdage22, posted by europerep on April 18, 2015, at 12:42:14

> > is saphris an option for me?
> >
> > I heard its not approved for schizo in Germany
>
> Asenapine is available in Germany under the trade name Sycrest, as 5mg and 10mg sublingual tablets.
>
> Just wanted to point that out in case you might want to try it...
>
>

Its only approved for mania here

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics@Scott saphris » Lamdage22

Posted by europerep on April 18, 2015, at 15:43:37

In reply to Re: Fk antipsychotics@Scott saphris, posted by Lamdage22 on April 18, 2015, at 13:47:52

> Its only approved for mania here

Ah ok, that may be, I just knew that it was marketed and available in Germany. And generally speaking, psychiatrists are quite willing to go off-label if there is a good case for it.

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics

Posted by Horse on April 18, 2015, at 16:39:21

In reply to Fk antipsychotics, posted by Phil on April 17, 2015, at 7:07:23

FYI saphris was not weight neutral in my case.... Good anti anxiety and depression, great for sleep. Metabolism took a big hit.

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics » Horse

Posted by SLS on April 19, 2015, at 9:34:59

In reply to Re: Fk antipsychotics, posted by Horse on April 18, 2015, at 16:39:21

Hi Horse.

> FYI saphris was not weight neutral in my case.... Good anti anxiety and depression, great for sleep. Metabolism took a big hit.

Can you provide some more details regarding weight gain?

1. Dosage?
2. Length of treatment?
3. Amount of weight gain?

Thank you.


- Scott

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics » Phil

Posted by Chris O on May 13, 2015, at 0:37:57

In reply to Fk antipsychotics, posted by Phil on April 17, 2015, at 7:07:23

I'm with you on the Fk AP sentiment. I have three APs in my medicine cabinet right now--Abilify, Seroquel and Risperdal--and I cannot, for the life of me, bring myself to take any of them. I know that if any AP did work, I would have take it long term, and I cannot imagine sacrificing my body for whatever (probably fleeting) positive effects the APs might give me. I hope you can find a way out of your frustrating situation.

On the other hand, I am glad my psychiatrist is willing to go down any pharmaceutical road to treat my lifelong depression and anxiety. It's better having a p-doc who will take risks and be there with you than one who has preconceived notions about what meds will and will not work with various patients. Just my two cents.

Chris

 

Re: Fk antipsychotics » Chris O

Posted by Phil on May 13, 2015, at 10:44:34

In reply to Re: Fk antipsychotics » Phil, posted by Chris O on May 13, 2015, at 0:37:57

Thanks Chris. I hear you.


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