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7 of the Biggest Artists in Medical History

Posted by stan_the_man70 on April 9, 2015, at 20:03:12

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7 of the Biggest Quacks and Scam Artists in Medical History

Some of these charlatans may have even believed their own preposterous theories.

By Larry Schwartz / AlterNet

March 27, 2015
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Mike Huckabee, former Fox News talking head and possible presidential contender again, recently came under considerable fire for being the spokesman for a dubious cure for diabetes, a disease that affects 29 million Americans and is the seventh leading cause of death in the U.S. The Diabetes Solution Kit Huckabee endorsed includes recommendations for supplements like cinnamon to supposedly cure the disease.

Huckabee did a cut and run from the gig after criticism became too intense, but the fact that he chose to be the front man for snake oil in the first place would seem to call his judgment into question. Then again, quack medicine has a long history in the arena of conservative politics. Because many right-wingers seem to think that science itself is somehow liberally biased, quackery often fills the hole left by rejected science. Newsmax, Fox News and Glenn Beck are just some of the conservative outlets for quackery. You might say that ignorance, like nature, abhors a vacuum.

In truth, there wasnt much difference between a doctor and a quack for much of human history. Angry gods, flat Earths and demon possessions ruled the ancient days. Despite the incredible advances science has made in the past few hundred years, it seems belief in gods and demons as the causes of disease still lurks. As long as there has been a problem to solve and money to make, charlatans have been ready to step forward to cure your disease and take your money.

Here are seven of the quackiest frauds in medical history.

1. William J. A. Bailey

Radioactivity, for that healthy glow.

Marie Curie discovered the radioactive metal radium. For this, and other groundbreaking research on radioactivity, she deservedly received historical acclaim. However, others took advantage of her discoveries and applied their own ignorance and greed to medical history. One such person was William J.A. Bailey. Bailey noticed that the properties of radium fascinated most people, especially the fact that it glowed and seemed to give off a power.

Bailey, who called himself a doctor but had no medical degree, founded Radium Company, whose chief product was Radithor, a medicine that would invigorate his patients. Radithor was essentially radium dissolved in water, but Bailey promised it would provide glowing health. Eben Byers was one of Baileys wealthiest clients. Byers consumed well over 1,000 bottles of Radithor. His jaw fell off and he died. His autopsy revealed large holes in his brain and skull. Among other products Bailey marketed was a radium paperweight, to provide a lift to the deskbound, and a radium belt clip for portable energy.

2. John R. Brinkley

Goat testicles, anyone?

John R. Brinkley had interesting ideas about male sexuality. After observing the sexual prowess of goats in a meatpacking company, he decided goat testicles were the answer to male impotence. In thousands of procedures, he opened up the scrotums of his unfortunate patients, and inserted goat testicles in their scrotal sacs. He didnt physically attach the goat testicles to anything. He just put them in and closed up the sac. Brinkley lucked out when his first patient managed to get his wife pregnant. The subsequent publicity was a bonanza, and Brinkley began promoting his procedure as a cure for all sorts of ailments, including dementia and flatulence. He began advertising his breakthrough on radio, claiming his transplants turned men into the ram that am with every lamb. Of course, the fact that Brinkley was minimally trained, never completed medical school, was often drunk when operating, and not particularly hygienic became a problem. Several of his patients died (not directly from the goat testicle, which was simply absorbed into the body, but from infections). He was sued for malpractice, eventually wound up bankrupt and disgraced, and died penniless from a heart attack in 1942.

3. John Harvey Kellogg

No sex, please. Bad for the digestion.

Although John Harvey did invent the corn flake, it was his brother, Will Kellogg, who ran the cereal company. Immortalized in the bestselling novel and subsequent movie, The Road to Wellville, John Harvey Kellogg was a genuinely strange man. He was an actual medical doctor, unlike some quack magnates, and may be considered the father of the modern health food movement. Kellogg operated a sanitarium in Battle Creek, Michigan, where wealthy clients adopted vegetarian diets, exercised regularly, quit drinking and smoking, and did deep breathing exercises. No doubt these lifestyle changes were excellent for the health. The quackery came in with some of Kelloggs other beliefs.

John Harvey was a big advocate of enemas. His patients had them regularly, using a machine that forced several gallons of water into the intestine. Water enemas were followed by yogurt, taken by mouth as well as via the back door. In addition to the enemas, high-fiber diets were prescribed, further scraping clean the colon, which Kellogg believed to be the cause of most disease. Sexual activity was also banned under the Kellogg regimen as he believed sex weakened the system. Masturbation, which he thought was the cause of cancer of the womb, urinary disease and epilepsy, among other illnesses, was a no-no. Circumcision was prescribed for men to reduce sexual pleasure, and the application of carbolic acid to the clitoris for women. Despite the extreme nature of Kelloggs treatments, he had a huge roster of famous clients, including former president William Howard Taft, Amelia Earhart, Tarzan movie star Johnny Weissmuller, Henry Ford, and Thomas Edison.

4. William Radam

Gardening and medicinethe same thing.

William Radam was a Prussian who settled in that hotbed of quackery, Texas, in the later 19th century. Beset by malaria and other ailments, Radam was frustrated by his doctors inability to cure his illnesses. Radam was living during the time Louis Pasteur made the connection between disease and bacteria. Radam, an ardent gardener, likened bacteria to weeds, and figured that by destroying the bacteria in the body he could destroy disease. After some research, he came up with the Microbe Killer, a potion that destroyed all microbes in the body and cured all disease. The label on the bottle showed a man swinging a bat at a skeleton, presumably representing death. "The Microbe Killer cannot be compared with ordinary drugs, Radam wrote about his discovery. It does not contain any of them. It is pure water, permeated with gases which are essential to the nourishment of the system, and in which micro-organisms cannot live and propagate, or fermentation exist."

He marketed the Microbe Killer as a weed killer with a wink and a nod, to avoid lawsuits in case anyone died from the elixir. His cure-all was an immediate bestseller, and Radam moved from Texas to New York City, where he expanded his company (at its height, up to17 factories). Eventually, however, his potion was called to task. A Long Island doctor, whose analysis found Radam's medicine to be 99% water with small amounts of hydrochloric acid and sulfuric acid, called Radam a misguided crank. The revelation did nothing to sway the public. Despite court cases that went against Radam, the Microbe Killer continued to sell even after his death in 1902.

5. Clark Stanley

The father of snake oil.

Clark Stanley was the original snake oil salesman. In the early 1900s, Mr. Stanley put on quite a show. Gathering a large crowd, he would kill rattlesnakes while pitching his miracle snake oil medicine. He claimed that his concoction of snake venoms was derived from the secret recipe of an Indian medicine man and would cure toothaches, sprains, pain and all manner of ills, for just 50 cents a bottle. In 1917, federal agents decided to see what was in Stanleys snake oil. No snake oil, it turned out. It was 99% mineral oil, a bit of beef fat, and some red pepper and turpentine to give it that medicinal flavor. Stanley found himself out of business, but the term snake oil salesman lives on, almost 100 years later.

6. D.D. Palmer

Curing lower back pain and cancer all at once.

A lot of people feel they have been helped by chiropractors, but the truth is that chiropractic medicine is built on a pretty shaky foundation. D.D. Palmer, the father of chiropractic science, based his theories on two instances. In one, he accidentally hit a deaf janitor in the ear during some horseplay, and days later the janitor showed up and said he could miraculously hear again. In the second, he manipulated a patients spine and claimed to cure her of heart problems. Somehow, out of this gossamer research, he came up with the theory that the body had a fluid with innate intelligence and clearing the pathway for the fluid could cure any ailment whatsoever. To do that, one simply had to manipulate the spine.

Most (not all) of todays practitioners might back away from the origins of chiropractic practice, and claim other dubious benefits of spinal manipulation, but given the science chiropractic is based on, one might just as easily argue for the benefits of fairy dust.

7. Bernard Jensen

The eyes have it.

Bernard Jensen was a famous chiropractor who also popularized the medical practice of iridology, diagnosing disease by studying the iris of the eye. Different parts of the iris, he believed, corresponded to different parts of the body and different organs. Darker parts of the iris indicated disease. If, for example, the part of the iris that represented the liver was dark, the liver was in distress. Jensen even developed a chart of the iris showing which body parts corresponded to which area of the iris.

There has never been any actual science to substantiate iridology, and in fact, the iris is one of the only parts of the body that rarely changes. People are born with light and dark areas of their irises and basically die with their irises unchanged.


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Larry Schwartz is a Brooklyn-based freelance writer with a focus on health, science and American history.

 

Re: 7 of the Biggest Artists in Medical History » stan_the_man70

Posted by SLS on April 9, 2015, at 23:57:19

In reply to 7 of the Biggest Artists in Medical History, posted by stan_the_man70 on April 9, 2015, at 20:03:12

> 6. D.D. Palmer
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Have you ever met an osteopath who decried the use of spinal manipulation to reduced lower back pain?

In what ways are the spinal manipulations performed by chiropractors different from those by osteopaths?

I personally found chiropractic to be well-suited for both acute lower back pain and its prevention along with treating whiplash.

Mr. Palmer may have been wrong about everything else, but he inspired the development of therapeutic modalities that demonstrate efficacy for a variety of spinal pathologies.


- Scott

 

new book: Dr. Julie Holland

Posted by stan_the_man70 on April 10, 2015, at 9:38:35

In reply to 7 of the Biggest Artists in Medical History, posted by stan_the_man70 on April 9, 2015, at 20:03:12

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Feeling Intense Emotions Doesn't Make You CrazyBut That's Not What Big Pharma Wants You to Think

In a new book, Dr. Julie Holland argues that pharmaceutical companies target women and medicate their emotions.

By Allegra Kirkland / AlterNet

March 30, 2015
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In 2014, a great deal of ink was spilled about the need to stop calling women crazy. Though dismissing women as emotional and irrational is hardly a new phenomenon, a Washington Post op-ed by dating coach Harris OMalley provided the fodder for a thousand blog posts on the subject. As OMalley writes, Its a form of gaslightingtelling women that their feelings are just wrong, that they dont have the right to feel the way they do.

According to Julie Holland, a psychiatrist who has had her own Manhattan practice for 20 years, this sort of minimizing attitude does serious damage. Not only does it hurt womens self-esteem, but it leads to women being diagnosed and medicated for psychiatric disorders at higher rates than men. In her new book Moody Bitches, Holland looks at how pharmaceutical industry ads target women, the hormonal differences between genders and our long, dark history of medicating womens emotions. She shared her findings with AlterNet in a telephone interview, which has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity.

Allegra Kirkland: Why did you decide to call your book Moody Bitches? Is it a reclamation of language thats traditionally been used to denigrate women?

Julie Holland: First of all, it was really a joke. I thought it was funny and so did other people I spoke to. Most of my patients are women. I certainly dont typically call women bitches. Part of it was reclamation for sure. That was important to me. If anyones going to call me a bitch I want it to be me.It is a sort of bigger message that its our birthright to be emotionally expressiveto feel deeply and to express what were feeling honestly. I really believe that not only would women be better off if they did a little more of this, but the world would be better off if women arent squelching a big part of them, and if men werent squelching that part of themselves too.

AK: The point of your book and your New York Times op-ed is that women should feel okay experiencing strong emotionsthat its perfectly natural and can even be beneficial for us. But that message also applies to men.

JH: It absolutely applies to men. For sure.

AK: And men are bound by such strict definitions of how to behave in an appropriate masculine way.

JH: Right. This is totally about the suppression of the feminine, not necessarily the suppression of women. Im sorry to use this word, but its about the yin as opposed to the yang. Theres a receptive energy and theres a penetrative energy. Were all trying to be more penetrative and were suppressing a lot of our sensitivity and intuition and empathy. I dont know to what end. It seems to me that its not doing women any good and its not doing society any good. Our world is imbalanced and theres a lot of penetrative energy: missiles and guns and rape and corporate greed and malfeasance. We need more feminine energy and we need to own that. Im not suggesting that people who need psychiatric medications throw them away. That is definitely not my message at all.

First of all, I worked at Bellevue for nine years in the psychiatric emergency room and I saw many very sick patients. And Ive had a private practice for 20 years in Manhattan where Ive seen all kinds of people who really cant get by without medication, be it anti-anxiety meds or sleeping pills. But Im absolutely also seeing a trend where theres a lower threshold for getting on medication, theres a much lower threshold for staying on medicine. People are getting on and staying for decades on medicines that were studied for less then a year. These are medicines that are not approved to be taken for decades. With Prozac, there are people who have been on it since the 80s. And weve learned how difficult it is for some of these people to get off their meds. There is an absolute withdrawal syndromethat isnt always discussed. Keep in mind that 80 percent of psychiatric medications in America are not prescribed by psychiatrists.

AK: Right, you mention in the book that theyre prescribed by general practitioners.

JH: Its also just the new normal. The more women who are on meds, the more its in the mix, its common, you have friends who are taking them, your doctors talking about them, you see all these ads for all these different meds. Did you see the Apple Watch commercial where at the very beginning of this beautiful, glossy video they show you like 20 different versions of the watch? So right away youre not thinking, Should I get a watch or not? Youre thinking, Should I get the silver one or the white one? Youre already advancing the conversation....Were seeing so many ads and people have so many friends on meds and its so easy to just get them from a doctor that its turning from, Should I be on psychiatric medication, to Which one should I take? So thats new. Ive watched it develop over 20 years and its really alarming.

AK: Theres a long history of women being medicated and even institutionalized for invented illnesses like hysteria and frigidity. Do you see the high rates of psychiatric drug prescriptions for women as part of that historical continuum or is this something new?

JH: What Im starting to see more and more are these ads. There are great websites for ads from the 50s and 60s, not just targeting women. Remember at that time Big Pharma could only advertise to doctors. So theyre advertising to doctors basically saying, If this patient is calling you too much and bugging you, heres a medicine that will get her to stop.

The ads now feature everyday women with everyday problems. First of all, there was 9/11, and theres no question that led to an increase in money spent on advertising, targeting women who were scared, who are having a normal response to an unnatural event. The ads were completely targeting them. There was one that just read, Millions can be helped by Paxil.

AK: Which is an incredibly vague statement.

JH: Right. And there were just words: "worry," "anxiety," with a picture of a woman clutching her handbag walking down a city street. It was genius. It was evil genius, but it was genius. And now what theyre doing is killing me. I dont know if youve seen those binge eating disorder ads. Shire makes Adderall, which is generic now, so the only brand amphetamine Shire has left is Vyvanse, which is a medicine for ADHD. Its an amphetamine just like Adderall but it lasts 12, 13 hours. They paid some doctors and they paid for a full-page ad in the journal that the study ran in, and it says in the journal that they also paid the writers and the editors. So they have this Shire-paid, really crappy study showing that at high dosage every single day for weeks, Vyvanse separates out from placebo. Basically, they show that if you give a woman high-dose amphetamines every day, she will binge less.

They have ads where they show a woman surrounded by pizza and hamburgers and donuts and it says, "If you eat more than you want to and you feel guilty afterwards, you may have this disorder." Which is sort of like saying, "If youre a woman, you have this."

First of all, if youre not on the pill and youre not on SSRIs, youre going to go through a certain day or two when youre eating more carbs or sweets before your period. They have ads for doctors where they say "binge eating disorder is a shameful disorder and your patient may not volunteer this information so be sure to ask whether theyre eating too much and feeling guilty about it." F*ck*ng Shire. Its not bad enough that all of these kids are taking their meds. They want to get some women hooked on speed before their patent expires. These are addictive medicines. And theres no evidence that this disorder has any pharmacological basis that needs to be medicated.

AK: You write that psychiatric drug prescription rates are highest for women between the ages of 35 and 64. This overlaps with the time when women are most likely to be raising families and at the peak of their careers. Do you think women are trying to handle all of these stressors and thats why they are asking for and receiving psychiatric medications at higher rates?

JH: This is not going to go over well, but Im going to say a couple of things. First of all, perimenopause symptoms in terms of insomnia, irritability and mood changes happen all through your 40s. People have this idea that menopause is a one-day event that occurs some time in your mid-50s. Its not. Its a marathon of symptoms through most of your 40s, into your 50s; it can last 7-14 years.

The other issue is that my practice is full of women in their late 30s and early 40s who would like a child. Maybe theyre not dying to be married, but theyd like a child. And they would prefer it to be in a monogamous relationship. And theyre living in New York City where guys have a shelf life til they are 50 and no one really wants to commit because its possible they can upgrade somewhere else. And theyre not happy. Theyre freaking out because this is something they always thought they were going to have and they wanted but theyre not getting.

So one thing I came across in the three years of researching this book is that there is evidence suggesting that SSRIs are interfering with mating. We already know that contraceptives totally interfere with mating, but it turns out that SSRIs also do so. I have so many patients that are on an SSRI and an oral contraceptive. In New York City that is a very common combination of medication, and it has a real impact on mating and sexuality. Im afraid its this kind of self-fulfilling prophecy where people are unhappy because theyre not mating, but theyre on drugs that completely interfere with their ability to mate.

AK: The American Psychiatric Association says men are much less likely to seek treatment for anxiety and depression. Could that skew the rates at which women are diagnosed and medicated?

JH: If you look at other cultures there isnt this two-to-one difference. There does seem to be a definite issue with hormones, in that if you look at kids rates of diagnosis of depression, or if you look at post-menopausal women versus men in that age group theres not this two-to-one difference. But there is that difference when women are cycling, say from around 12 to 55.

AK: Two-to-one difference in terms of rates of diagnosis?

JH: Yes. Theres no question that men are more reluctant to seek psychiatric help. Thats always an understanding in psychiatric care that there are a lot of men who are undiagnosed who really need treatment but arent getting it because there is still a lot of stigma there. Theres very little of that for women. But it is this suppression of the feminine thats at play.

AK: In some of the responses to your op-ed, some people took issue with framing mental health issues in relation to gender because, of course, not all men and women are the same. There are plenty of sensitive, intuitive guys and plenty of women who have no patience for the sob stories of others. Hormones obviously play a role, but how much can really be attributed to biology versus culture and nurture?

JH: You cant really pick them apart. A 300-page book is very different than an 800- to 900-word op-ed.There were major things I wanted in that piece that got cut out. Like I said in the beginning, there is the feminine, this yin and yang, in everyone. Not one person is all feminine or all masculine; were all a mix. Gender is fluid. I understand that. But I have to make some generalities. Id say that everything I say in Moody Bitches that isnt about hormones applies to both men and women. I think that the suppression of the feminine is a problem in both genders and the world needs more yin energy.

AK: I guess the only other concern is that it can end up reinforcing sexist stereotypes. Back when Hillary Clinton was running in 2008, members of the press actually asked if we could have a female president because she might get moody during her period. Maybe that connection could be reinforced in peoples minds?

JH: The other thing Id say is that moody doesnt necessarily mean hysterical. That someone can be emotionally expressive is not a bad thing. Thats sort of the message people are missing here. Im sorry for the shorthand; I just didnt think the title "emotionally expressive women" would sell books. But thats what Im talking about. The idea that a woman who is in tune with her body and knows how she feels and can speak her mind about it, that is scary to men. Emotionally expressive does not mean unstable.

AK:Some responses to your piece expressed concern that people who do genuinely need psychiatric help or medication would be discouraged because theyll think they can just get through it or that their feelings are within the range of normal. So where do we draw the line?

JH: I am not anti-medication in the right situations. These pills work. They make people feel happier and more relaxed. I get why people take them. But I am suggesting that there are healthier ways that are less of a quick fix that I think some of these people who are on meds should try. The whole survival guide section of my book is about that. You can add all these things to meds, or you can do them instead of taking meds. This idea that youre going to go to your internist or family doctor and get the same thing from them in six minutes that you get from talking to a therapist for an hour-long initial evaluation is ludicrous. You have to find out what the family history is, what the genetics are, whether theres been any medication use in the past and what the response has been. I fear people are taking it less seriously.

The other thing that I would say is I have patients who take a little dose of SSRIs just in the week before their periods; I have patients who take medications during the winter but not the rest of the year. You dont have to take a daily dose for years on end just because you have these phases where your mood is changing. You can take a more targeted approach instead of this blanket method. But obviously there are people who really do need their medication and I do not want to encourage them to man up. What Im saying is, dont repress or be scared to be sad or upset. The only reason were repressing all these feelings is for the comfort of other people, and I think thats a huge problem.


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For a record of all of Dr. Hollands sources, see the notes section on moodybitches.com.
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Allegra Kirkland is AlterNet's associate managing editor. Her writing has appeared in the Chicago Reader, Salon, Daily Serving and The Nation.

 

Re: new book: Dr. Julie Holland

Posted by Christ_empowered on April 10, 2015, at 10:11:35

In reply to new book: Dr. Julie Holland, posted by stan_the_man70 on April 10, 2015, at 9:38:35

Office in Manhattan. Probably self-pay. Patients on anxiolytics and sedatives. Not everybody needs the chemical cure.

Wait for it, wait for it...

...this is affluent people psychiatry. Nothing wrong with that, just sayin'. The further up the totem pole you go, the more the "helping professions" care. She talks about "Moody Bitches," which is helpful. What about "Poor Bitches" ?

 

Re: new book: Dr. Julie Holland » stan_the_man70

Posted by SLS on April 10, 2015, at 14:28:31

In reply to new book: Dr. Julie Holland, posted by stan_the_man70 on April 10, 2015, at 9:38:35

I am a bit confused.

Are you a health management professional?

What is your specialty and degree?


- Scott

 

Re: new book: Dr. Julie Holland » SLS

Posted by stan_the_man70 on April 10, 2015, at 22:11:56

In reply to Re: new book: Dr. Julie Holland » stan_the_man70, posted by SLS on April 10, 2015, at 14:28:31

> I am a bit confused.
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> Are you a health management professional?
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> What is your specialty and degree?
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what's yr problem?

 

Re: new book: Dr. Julie Holland » stan_the_man70

Posted by SLS on April 11, 2015, at 0:54:13

In reply to Re: new book: Dr. Julie Holland » SLS, posted by stan_the_man70 on April 10, 2015, at 22:11:56

> > I am a bit confused.
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I thought I was the one who asked the questions. What's yr problem with answering them?


- Scott

 

Re: new book: Dr. Julie Holland » stan_the_man70

Posted by SLS on April 11, 2015, at 1:29:21

In reply to Re: new book: Dr. Julie Holland » SLS, posted by stan_the_man70 on April 10, 2015, at 22:11:56

> > > I am a bit confused.
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> > what's yr problem?

> I thought I was the one who asked the questions. What's yr problem with answering them?

I am less confused, now that I followed more closely your use of hyphens as demarcations for quoted material. You have no "patients".

It would be interesting, though, to know your beliefs on the use of medication in mainstream psychiatry and what your background is as it relates to the field of medicine.

I am a layman who is partial to supporting most of the current clinical modalities used in psychiatry.


- Scott

 

Re: new book: Dr. Julie Holland » SLS

Posted by stan_the_man70 on April 11, 2015, at 2:18:58

In reply to Re: new book: Dr. Julie Holland » stan_the_man70, posted by SLS on April 11, 2015, at 0:54:13

I don't like the tone of yr msg

I don't know what yr agenda is

 

Re: new book: Dr. Julie Holland » stan_the_man70

Posted by SLS on April 11, 2015, at 6:03:52

In reply to Re: new book: Dr. Julie Holland » SLS, posted by stan_the_man70 on April 11, 2015, at 2:18:58

> I don't like the tone of yr msg
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> I don't know what yr agenda is

I guess that leaves us in reciprocal positions.

Do you believe everything to be found in the literature you cited?


- Scott

 

Re: new book: Dr. Julie Holland » SLS

Posted by stan_the_man70 on April 11, 2015, at 11:19:27

In reply to Re: new book: Dr. Julie Holland » stan_the_man70, posted by SLS on April 11, 2015, at 6:03:52

> > I don't like the tone of yr msg
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> > I don't know what yr agenda is
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> I guess that leaves us in reciprocal positions.
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> - Scott

I have seen maybe about 4 types of posters on these forums:

first: people who are frustrated, or panicking, or sudden breakdowns, or seem desperate - who try to vent out their feelings. Who look for support or ideas or answers or solutions

second: people who seem to be experts on all kinds of pharmaceuticals and supplements and dosages and combinations and side effects and benefits

third: people who try to provide insights and understanding based on their own experiences and research and troubles and problems and experimentation
why do I post here: because when I was looking for help no one suggested to me that diet, exercise, social activity, work, sleep, weight loss would provide any benefits

fourth: people who browse and read over these forms - and sometimes post anonymously hoping no one will hurt them or pick on them

 

Re: new book: Dr. Julie Holland » stan_the_man70

Posted by SLS on April 11, 2015, at 13:13:04

In reply to Re: new book: Dr. Julie Holland » SLS, posted by stan_the_man70 on April 11, 2015, at 11:19:27

> > > I don't like the tone of yr msg
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* Do you believe everything to be found in the literature you cited?

How does the first article relate to psychopharmacology?

I find that the second piece regarding Julie Holland and her book, "Moody Bitches", contains stuff that I agree with. However, I feel the last quote clearly sums up her agenda. She says what many people want to hear. It helps to sell books. However, in my estimation, she shows either strong bias or worse - a lack of understanding of the nature of the illnesses she treats and their treatment.

"I am not anti-medication in the right situations. These pills work. They make people feel happier and more relaxed. I get why people take them. But I am suggesting that there are healthier ways that are less of a quick fix that I think some of these people who are on meds should try. The whole survival guide section of my book is about that."

If you want to post stuff, I think you should be prepared to accept some scrutiny. I am not flaming you, but I am calling you out on the literature you posted.


- Scott

 

Re: 7 of the Biggest Artists in Medical History

Posted by bleauberry on April 14, 2015, at 12:04:59

In reply to 7 of the Biggest Artists in Medical History, posted by stan_the_man70 on April 9, 2015, at 20:03:12

This article appears to display a high level of anger and bias from its author.

I drew suspicion right away when it impuned cinnamon. I took note of how it was improperly worded "cure"? Sorry, cinnamon doesn't cure diabetes. It does however have literally hundreds of studies showing its wide medical effects, including actions upon blood sugar, which can be a helpful tool for managing diabetes or pre-diabetes.

I so disdain authors that have to be deceptive with wording to make their case. Because that automatically means they didn't have a case to begin with.

Actually, other than the cinnamon thing and huckabee thing, the others look pretty scary indeed. The first two completely innocents were sabotaged by the author for a clearly biased and misinformed bias.

Here is some snake oil from today:

ALL Hospitals....if you get a negative lyme test, you don't have lyme. If they say so, must be, right? Yikes. Snake oil in your own hospital, take your pick.

And, well, never mind. I don't need to get angry too. :-)

IMO


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