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Posted by Phillipa on May 5, 2014, at 10:50:17
Had a nursing newsletter yesterday that wrote that any amount of alcohol could cause all cancers. It wouldn't let me copy it. Think it was true. Oh and was for any amount at all even l drink? Thanks Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on May 5, 2014, at 11:26:23
In reply to Anyone read the article on alcohol Causing Cancer?, posted by Phillipa on May 5, 2014, at 10:50:17
it's true i'm affraid i know someone with liver cancer
3 months left :(
Posted by alexandra_k on May 5, 2014, at 20:43:48
In reply to it's true i'm affraid i know someone liver cancer, posted by Jeroen on May 5, 2014, at 11:26:23
any amount of breathing in atmospheric air probably similarly causes all known cancers.
Posted by Phillipa on May 5, 2014, at 21:20:51
In reply to Re: it's true i'm affraid i know someone liver cancer, posted by alexandra_k on May 5, 2014, at 20:43:48
Excessive alcohol can cause cirrhosis of liver. Which causes the blood to not clot. Which in turn creates esophageal varies in the body and the person bleeds out of body cavities. Vitamin K also plays a factor in this. But it used to be that one drink a day for females and two for men was okay. Now it seems it's not. Phillipa
Posted by alexandra_k on May 6, 2014, at 2:37:38
In reply to Re: it's true i'm affraid i know someone liver cancer, posted by Phillipa on May 5, 2014, at 21:20:51
> Excessive alcohol can cause cirrhosis of liver. Which causes the blood to not clot. Which in turn creates esophageal varies in the body and the person bleeds out of body cavities. Vitamin K also plays a factor in this.
yeah. one can drown from over-hydration, too, but generally speaking people would be better off drinking more water than they do at present.
people like to present / hear dramatic findings because... people like drama. it draws money for research labs and keeps reporters busy and so on...
Posted by Phillipa on May 6, 2014, at 20:28:02
In reply to Re: it's true i'm affraid i know someone liver cancer, posted by alexandra_k on May 6, 2014, at 2:37:38
Personally saw this happen many times when nursing. So Sad and painful. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on May 6, 2014, at 20:48:26
In reply to Re: it's true i'm affraid i know someone liver cancer, posted by alexandra_k on May 6, 2014, at 2:37:38
Here is one page of the alcohol study. 5 pages long. No idea how to get the full study unless you can google . Phillipa
No Amount of Alcohol Is Safe
Laura A. Stokowski, RN, MSDisclosures
"Responsible drinking" has become a 21st-century mantra for how most people view alcohol consumption. But when it comes to cancer, no amount of alcohol is safe.[1] That is the conclusion of the 2014 World Cancer Report (WCR), issued by the World Health Organization's International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC).Declared a carcinogen by the IARC in 1988,[2] alcohol is causally related to several cancers. "We have known for a long time that alcohol causes esophageal cancer, says Jürgen Rehm, PhD, WCR contributor on alcohol consumption, and Senior Scientist at the Centre for Addictions and Mental Health in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, "but the relationship with other tumors, such as breast cancer, has come to our attention only in the past 10-15 years."
The Risk Is Dose-Dependent
The more alcohol that a person drinks, the higher the risk. The alcohol/cancer link has been strengthened by the finding of a dose/response relationship between alcohol consumption and certain cancers. A causal relationship exists between alcohol consumption and cancers of the mouth, pharynx, larynx, esophagus, colon-rectum, liver, and female breast; a significant relationship also exists between alcohol consumption and pancreatic cancer.[1]
Links have also been made between alcohol consumption and leukemia; multiple myeloma; and cancers of the cervix, vulva, vagina, and skin, but fewer studies have looked at these relationships and more research is needed to establish a confirmed association.[1] For bladder, lung, and stomach cancers, the evidence for an alcohol-cancer link is conflicting.
How Solid Are These Data?
"For the cancers that have been identified as being causally linked with alcohol, we are absolutely certain that alcohol causes these cancers," says Dr. Rehm. "About a few cancers, such as pancreatic cancer, we are not yet certain," he says. "We believe that we have good evidence showing that alcohol can cause pancreatic cancer, but we would not go so far as we would for esophageal cancer or breast cancer. And for renal cancer, the IARC has said that there are indications that there may be an effect, but we don't have the same level of evidence that we have for cancers that are clearly detrimentally linked to alcohol."
But surely, light drinking doesn't cause or contribute to cancer? Apparently, it does. In a meta-analysis of 222 studies comprising 92,000 light drinkers and 60,000 nondrinkers with cancer, light drinking was associated with risk for oropharyngeal cancer, esophageal squamous cell carcinoma, and female breast cancer.[3] From this meta-analysis, it was estimated that in 2004 worldwide, 5000 deaths from oropharyngeal cancer, 24,000 from esophageal squamous cell carcinoma, and 5000 from breast cancer were attributable to light drinking. Light drinking was not associated with cancer of the colon-rectum, liver, or larynx.
However, a caveat is in order here. When alcohol use is self-reported, respondents might underestimate, or underreport, their actual alcohol intake.[4] This can result in finding associations between cancer and light to moderate drinking, when in reality, alcohol intake is much higher.
Posted by alexandra_k on May 6, 2014, at 22:44:26
In reply to Re: 5 pages + only one » alexandra_k, posted by Phillipa on May 6, 2014, at 20:48:26
> In a meta-analysis of 222 studies comprising 92,000 light drinkers and 60,000 nondrinkers with cancer, light drinking was associated with risk for oropharyngeal cancer, esophageal squamous cell carcinoma, and female breast cancer.
wait... so... the drinkers and non-drinkers all had cancer... they just had different kinds?
Posted by Phillipa on May 7, 2014, at 19:43:41
In reply to Re: 5 pages + only one, posted by alexandra_k on May 6, 2014, at 22:44:26
See if you can find the article as can't copy link and don't have time to post each page. Essence is that drinking light or heavy is now causing cancer
Posted by Phillipa on May 7, 2014, at 19:58:04
In reply to Re: 5 pages + only one, posted by alexandra_k on May 6, 2014, at 22:44:26
Not original article another found on the net. Phillipa
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