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Posted by ChicagoKat on January 5, 2013, at 10:10:32
In reply to Re: A battered Kat is back » ChicagoKat, posted by SLS on January 5, 2013, at 1:07:59
Hi Scott, yes, I absolutely do feel supported here, and I can't thank you and everyone else enough for being so kind and understanding. I feel blessed that I found this site with such wonderful people on it, and I have missed you all so much while I was in hospital.
Thanks for your kind words about Jack, my kitty. My husband and I could not have kids, and we love our kitties as much as if they were our children. I feel I could really have turned a corner with my mood after all the hell I've been through - it really put things in perspective for me - but now that I know Jack is so sick, my determination to focus more on the positive and try to use more positive coping skills has gone out the window.:(
Kat
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 5, 2013, at 10:14:10
In reply to Propaganda » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on January 5, 2013, at 2:15:39
> > > Lou leave Kat alone!!!! Enough is enough!!! And do not post to me!!!! Phillipa
> >
> > Friends,
> > It is written above that I am to leave Kat alone.
> > This forum is for support and education.
>
> But you are wrong so often, that it is difficult to call what you do as being "education". I call it de-education. You attempt to accomplish this through the use of misinformation and propaganda.
>
> > Support is not the same as reinforcement.
>
> I guess support is in the mind of the beholder. In my mind, what you do is not supportive.
>
> > Now education is important here in a great way. And to suppress any facts is what kills education and could lead one down a false path.
>
> What you purport to be facts are usually falsehoods. I demonstrate this to you all of the time, yet you make no adjustments in your presentations. I don't expect you to, though. It is not my goal to change your mind about anything. My debating you is for the support and education of others. Otherwise, I really don't care what you believe. If your belief system works for you, then you are probably best left alone.
>
> > To repress one member's voice leads to the loss of education to other paths.
>
> No one is repressing your voice, otherwise, you would be blocked from posting here. However, free speech is not absolute. Nor is it to go unchallenged. I would prefer that you don't post here at all, but those are decisions to be made by you and Dr. Hsiung.
>
> > And education that is prohibited is not education at all,
>
> You won't sneak that by me. Education is in the mind of the beholder, just as it is with support. That you portray falehoods as facts prevents me from characterizing what you do as promoting education.
>
> > but only an indoctrination to one person's thinking.
>
> That's what propaganda is. I am greatly relieved to see that very few people are indoctrinated to your way of thinking.
>
> > And when one person's thinking here is all that you can have, then you get a deception,
>
> First of all, I do not believe that anyone has heretofore stated that there should be but one voice on Psycho-Babble. In reality there is more than one, otherwise we wouldn't be having this exchange. Sometimes, all that is needed to attain a noble goal is a single voice. However, it need not be exclusive to carry its message.
>
> > a deception that becomes an indoctrination, an indoctrination that could lead to death.
>
> I believe that your words can lead to death.
>
> > My friends, be not deceived.
>
> Who do you claim is doing the deceiving?
>
> Lou Pilder, I am convinced that there is nothing I can say that would prompt you to desist from posting misinformed propaganda. Quite frankly, I am not interested in your motives, only in your behaviors. I care about how your posts are to be received by others, many of whom are in a state of desperation and vulnerable to the disinfomation you would use to de-educate them.
>
>
> - Scott
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20120228/msgs/1034274.html
>
> Friends,
What you read about me here that are lies about me and lies about Jews has historical parallel that I am prevented from postinh here due to prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung. Yet today, the research continually exposes the risks of death and life-ruining conditions/addictions caused by psychiatric drugs prescribed legally by a psychiatrist/doctor and that what I am posting here is the truth here, truth that could save your life and prevent the lives of innocent children and others being taken away by those that take these drugs promoted here.
The issues of saying that trileptal does not have the risk of agranulocytosis is not true, for even the fda admits to the fact that trileptal can cause agranulocytosis.
For me to post this warning that coul save your lif, or the life of a child given this drug, is supportive in any forum, unless that forum wants their members to think that trileptal can not cause agranulocytosis, which can be fatal.
My friens, uncovering false statements is supportive an any forum, and more so as this forum goes on and on witrh allowing defamtion t be heaoped upon me here, all allowed by Mr Hsiung that states that support takes precedence. Yet today, people could b led to believe that Trileptal does not carry the risk of aganulocytosis by the nature that members here can post what you see here about me which could give you hostil, disagreeable feelings about me for Mr Hsiung is allowing those hateful statements toward me to stand. But I say to you, take no thought for the hateful statements toward me here that could arouse ill-will toward me, but seek the truth that could lead to life. For many are here that use hate that could be a tool that could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in me as a person and what I am posting here that could save your life.
Here is a link t what the fda states in relation to Trileptal having the risk of agranulocytosis. Are they posting a lie? Am I posting a lie? Is this "misinformation"?
Lou
http;//fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/ucm250545.htm
Posted by ChicagoKat on January 5, 2013, at 10:16:58
In reply to Re: A battered Kat is back » ChicagoKat, posted by SLS on January 5, 2013, at 2:27:34
Once again, thanks so much Scott. You have been so kind and understanding it almost makes me want to cry (in a good way). I cannot thank you enough :)
I understand how things can go off on a tangent, but it was very nice of you to restore my original subject line. I appreciate it very much. :)
Kat
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 5, 2013, at 10:18:22
In reply to Lou's response-misinfo?, posted by Lou Pilder on January 5, 2013, at 10:14:10
> > > > Lou leave Kat alone!!!! Enough is enough!!! And do not post to me!!!! Phillipa
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > > It is written above that I am to leave Kat alone.
> > > This forum is for support and education.
> >
> > But you are wrong so often, that it is difficult to call what you do as being "education". I call it de-education. You attempt to accomplish this through the use of misinformation and propaganda.
> >
> > > Support is not the same as reinforcement.
> >
> > I guess support is in the mind of the beholder. In my mind, what you do is not supportive.
> >
> > > Now education is important here in a great way. And to suppress any facts is what kills education and could lead one down a false path.
> >
> > What you purport to be facts are usually falsehoods. I demonstrate this to you all of the time, yet you make no adjustments in your presentations. I don't expect you to, though. It is not my goal to change your mind about anything. My debating you is for the support and education of others. Otherwise, I really don't care what you believe. If your belief system works for you, then you are probably best left alone.
> >
> > > To repress one member's voice leads to the loss of education to other paths.
> >
> > No one is repressing your voice, otherwise, you would be blocked from posting here. However, free speech is not absolute. Nor is it to go unchallenged. I would prefer that you don't post here at all, but those are decisions to be made by you and Dr. Hsiung.
> >
> > > And education that is prohibited is not education at all,
> >
> > You won't sneak that by me. Education is in the mind of the beholder, just as it is with support. That you portray falehoods as facts prevents me from characterizing what you do as promoting education.
> >
> > > but only an indoctrination to one person's thinking.
> >
> > That's what propaganda is. I am greatly relieved to see that very few people are indoctrinated to your way of thinking.
> >
> > > And when one person's thinking here is all that you can have, then you get a deception,
> >
> > First of all, I do not believe that anyone has heretofore stated that there should be but one voice on Psycho-Babble. In reality there is more than one, otherwise we wouldn't be having this exchange. Sometimes, all that is needed to attain a noble goal is a single voice. However, it need not be exclusive to carry its message.
> >
> > > a deception that becomes an indoctrination, an indoctrination that could lead to death.
> >
> > I believe that your words can lead to death.
> >
> > > My friends, be not deceived.
> >
> > Who do you claim is doing the deceiving?
> >
> > Lou Pilder, I am convinced that there is nothing I can say that would prompt you to desist from posting misinformed propaganda. Quite frankly, I am not interested in your motives, only in your behaviors. I care about how your posts are to be received by others, many of whom are in a state of desperation and vulnerable to the disinfomation you would use to de-educate them.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20120228/msgs/1034274.html
> >
> > Friends,
> What you read about me here that are lies about me and lies about Jews has historical parallel that I am prevented from postinh here due to prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung. Yet today, the research continually exposes the risks of death and life-ruining conditions/addictions caused by psychiatric drugs prescribed legally by a psychiatrist/doctor and that what I am posting here is the truth here, truth that could save your life and prevent the lives of innocent children and others being taken away by those that take these drugs promoted here.
> The issues of saying that trileptal does not have the risk of agranulocytosis is not true, for even the fda admits to the fact that trileptal can cause agranulocytosis.
> For me to post this warning that coul save your lif, or the life of a child given this drug, is supportive in any forum, unless that forum wants their members to think that trileptal can not cause agranulocytosis, which can be fatal.
> My friens, uncovering false statements is supportive an any forum, and more so as this forum goes on and on witrh allowing defamtion t be heaoped upon me here, all allowed by Mr Hsiung that states that support takes precedence. Yet today, people could b led to believe that Trileptal does not carry the risk of aganulocytosis by the nature that members here can post what you see here about me which could give you hostil, disagreeable feelings about me for Mr Hsiung is allowing those hateful statements toward me to stand. But I say to you, take no thought for the hateful statements toward me here that could arouse ill-will toward me, but seek the truth that could lead to life. For many are here that use hate that could be a tool that could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in me as a person and what I am posting here that could save your life.
> Here is a link t what the fda states in relation to Trileptal having the risk of agranulocytosis. Are they posting a lie? Am I posting a lie? Is this "misinformation"?
> Lou
> http;//fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/ucm250545.htm
>
> correction to link:
http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/ucm250545.htm
Posted by ChicagoKat on January 5, 2013, at 10:30:57
In reply to Re: Lou's warning-dhth » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on January 4, 2013, at 18:09:22
> Lou leave Kat alone!!!! Enough is enough!!! And do not post to me!!!! Phillipa
Thanks for the defense Phillipa!! It's nice to have such great friends who watch out for me. But don't worry; I have learned not to even read Lou's posts. I think that is a positive coping skill, what do you think? :)
Kat
Posted by Phil on January 5, 2013, at 11:00:10
In reply to Re: Lou's warning-dhth » Phillipa, posted by ChicagoKat on January 5, 2013, at 10:30:57
Kat, Happy that you got through one of the most challenging situations I've ever heard related to meds.
Doctors are right, always right but they are wrong. Sad state of affairs.
Posted by ChicagoKat on January 5, 2013, at 11:25:56
In reply to Re: Lou's warning-dhth » ChicagoKat, posted by Phil on January 5, 2013, at 11:00:10
> Kat, Happy that you got through one of the most challenging situations I've ever heard related to meds.
> Doctors are right, always right but they are wrong. Sad state of affairs.Thank you so very much Phil, and I completely agree with you.
Kat
Posted by SLS on January 5, 2013, at 12:07:52
In reply to correction: Lou's response-misinfo?, posted by Lou Pilder on January 5, 2013, at 10:18:22
It is unfortunate that you insinuate that I tell lies.
This is a disgusting attempt at disinformation (not misinformation).
If even so much as one case of agranulocytosis can be attributed to Trileptal (oxcarbazepine) as cause and effect, I would like you to present it. You won't find a single report of this on Medline/Pubmed. Anticonvulsants are very often combined, and it would be difficult to determine if Trileptal were the drug responsible for the reaction. That your citation has determined that the occurrence of agranulocytosis in association with Trileptal is rare leads me to believe that the risk is virtually zero. On Medline, there is a total of one report of neutropenia and no reports of agranulocytosis.
Try again. See if you can find any lies.
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By the way, what motivates you to change the subject line of each post that you submit such that it includes your name and neglects the issue being discussed? Whenever you do this to me, I feel that you have no respect for me or my needs, and that you are not at all supportive of me.
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 5, 2013, at 17:44:58
In reply to Lou's warning-dhth » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on January 4, 2013, at 16:08:13
> > First, my reactions to what you have just gone through:
> >
> >
> > :-(
> >
> > >:-(
> >
> > :-(
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry about the Parnate reaction. It must have been hellish.
> >
> > You are very resilient. Very. It was not at all fair that you should have suffered such ignorance. Perhaps something good will come of it. The psychiatrist may have come close to getting it right for you. It might be in your best interests to try to build a treatment regime around Wellbutrin. Adding an atypical antipsychotic and a mood stabilizer or two might do the trick. I prefer Trileptal to Tegretol, although Tegretol has been studied more. With Tegretol, you must take frequent blood tests to screen for agranulocytosis. Also, Tegretol tends to produce cognitive side effects and sedation. Trileptal, its sister drug, seem to be just as effective as a mood stabilizer and is a cleaner drug. It lacks the risk of angranulocytosis, cognitive impairments, and sedation. It is possible that Tegretol was chosen precisely for its sedative effects. Then again, it might be the only choice appearing in their official "playbook".
> >
> > Wellbutrin + Trileptal + Latuda?
> >
> > Please keep posting.
> >
> > You sure are resilient!
> >
> >
> > - Scott
> >
>
> Friends,
> It is written here that trileptal lacks the risk of agranulocytosis. This is a lie, and a lie that could kill you.
> You see, I would like for you to make a more informed decision as to if there is great deception being promulgated here, and if you are a parent trying to decide as to drug your child or not in collaboration with a psychiatrst/doctor, be advised that I am prevented from posting here what I think could save your life, the life of your child if being drugged, and prevent life -ruining conditions and addictions. And much more than that, these drugs being advocted here could induce a mind-altered state to compel one to kill themselves and/or others , even commit mass-murder.
> You could go to the admin board here and see the hate dumped upon me that is being allowed by Mr Hsiung to be done including using me as a scapegoat, allowing antisemitic statements to stand, and to post gross defamation toward me and lies about me. The epithet {Prince of Death} is being put on me by a member here and Mr Hsiung also allows it for him to use to toward me. The Prince of Death is a name for Satan, and it is a lie that I am Satan. But you may be indoctrinated against me here by seing all of this being allowed which I think could distort your reasoning in relation to making a more informed decision as to drug your child or not in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor. This could lead to death wheras I have come here to lead you to life , and life more abundantly. What I could tell you comes from a Jewish perspective and the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me is prohibited here to me by Mr Hsiung. How could you make a more informed decision, as to take these drugs or not, if there is the repression of my perspectve as a Jew here? And Mr Hsiung states for you to try and trust him for he does what in his thinking will be good for this community as a whole. Do you know who else said that?
> Lou
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/trileptal/agranulocytosisFriends,
It is written here,[...it (Trileptal) lacks the risk of...cognitive impairments...].
My friemds, be not deceived., Trileptal carries a risk for cognitive impairment. And more than that, Trileptal can induce a host of life-threatening conditions.
I am noit permitted to expose the history of psychiatric drugs here due to prohibitions madee to me by Mr Hsiung. If those prohibitions were not made to me, I think that readers here could have a better chance to live. For the repression of speech that could save lives is considered to be supportive here because Mr Hsiung states that support takes precedence. Now if death could result from the supression of my speech here, then some could make the cognitive case in their mind that death is supportive here. You might not make that jump, but there are people reading this that IMHHHO could. I am trying to save lives by posting truth, truth that could lead you out of the darkness of depression and addiction into a marvelous light of peace and joy. That is supportive in any forum unless the forum does not want people to live or to have them addicted or get a life-ruining condition or kill themselves and/or others, even commit mass-murder.
Lou
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/trileptal/memory+impairment
Posted by schleprock on January 5, 2013, at 17:53:26
In reply to Lou's warning-uhnkhuvr, posted by Lou Pilder on January 5, 2013, at 17:44:58
Caught on my smartphone:
Posted by Phillipa on January 5, 2013, at 18:29:18
In reply to Lou Pilder grocery shopping:, posted by schleprock on January 5, 2013, at 17:53:26
I think you caught him!!!!
Posted by Phillipa on January 5, 2013, at 18:32:10
In reply to Re: Lou's warning-dhth » Phillipa, posted by ChicagoKat on January 5, 2013, at 10:30:57
Kat Friends try to protect each other. Hope the nasty flu is gone. Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 5, 2013, at 18:57:47
In reply to Lou's warning-uhnkhuvr, posted by Lou Pilder on January 5, 2013, at 17:44:58
> > > First, my reactions to what you have just gone through:
> > >
> > >
> > > :-(
> > >
> > > >:-(
> > >
> > > :-(
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm sorry about the Parnate reaction. It must have been hellish.
> > >
> > > You are very resilient. Very. It was not at all fair that you should have suffered such ignorance. Perhaps something good will come of it. The psychiatrist may have come close to getting it right for you. It might be in your best interests to try to build a treatment regime around Wellbutrin. Adding an atypical antipsychotic and a mood stabilizer or two might do the trick. I prefer Trileptal to Tegretol, although Tegretol has been studied more. With Tegretol, you must take frequent blood tests to screen for agranulocytosis. Also, Tegretol tends to produce cognitive side effects and sedation. Trileptal, its sister drug, seem to be just as effective as a mood stabilizer and is a cleaner drug. It lacks the risk of angranulocytosis, cognitive impairments, and sedation. It is possible that Tegretol was chosen precisely for its sedative effects. Then again, it might be the only choice appearing in their official "playbook".
> > >
> > > Wellbutrin + Trileptal + Latuda?
> > >
> > > Please keep posting.
> > >
> > > You sure are resilient!
> > >
> > >
> > > - Scott
> > >
> >
> > Friends,
> > It is written here that trileptal lacks the risk of agranulocytosis. This is a lie, and a lie that could kill you.
> > You see, I would like for you to make a more informed decision as to if there is great deception being promulgated here, and if you are a parent trying to decide as to drug your child or not in collaboration with a psychiatrst/doctor, be advised that I am prevented from posting here what I think could save your life, the life of your child if being drugged, and prevent life -ruining conditions and addictions. And much more than that, these drugs being advocted here could induce a mind-altered state to compel one to kill themselves and/or others , even commit mass-murder.
> > You could go to the admin board here and see the hate dumped upon me that is being allowed by Mr Hsiung to be done including using me as a scapegoat, allowing antisemitic statements to stand, and to post gross defamation toward me and lies about me. The epithet {Prince of Death} is being put on me by a member here and Mr Hsiung also allows it for him to use to toward me. The Prince of Death is a name for Satan, and it is a lie that I am Satan. But you may be indoctrinated against me here by seing all of this being allowed which I think could distort your reasoning in relation to making a more informed decision as to drug your child or not in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor. This could lead to death wheras I have come here to lead you to life , and life more abundantly. What I could tell you comes from a Jewish perspective and the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me is prohibited here to me by Mr Hsiung. How could you make a more informed decision, as to take these drugs or not, if there is the repression of my perspectve as a Jew here? And Mr Hsiung states for you to try and trust him for he does what in his thinking will be good for this community as a whole. Do you know who else said that?
> > Lou
> > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/trileptal/agranulocytosis
>
> Friends,
> It is written here,[...it (Trileptal) lacks the risk of...cognitive impairments...].
> My friemds, be not deceived., Trileptal carries a risk for cognitive impairment. And more than that, Trileptal can induce a host of life-threatening conditions.
> I am noit permitted to expose the history of psychiatric drugs here due to prohibitions madee to me by Mr Hsiung. If those prohibitions were not made to me, I think that readers here could have a better chance to live. For the repression of speech that could save lives is considered to be supportive here because Mr Hsiung states that support takes precedence. Now if death could result from the supression of my speech here, then some could make the cognitive case in their mind that death is supportive here. You might not make that jump, but there are people reading this that IMHHHO could. I am trying to save lives by posting truth, truth that could lead you out of the darkness of depression and addiction into a marvelous light of peace and joy. That is supportive in any forum unless the forum does not want people to live or to have them addicted or get a life-ruining condition or kill themselves and/or others, even commit mass-murder.
> Lou
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/trileptal/memory+impairment
>
> friends,
It is written here,[...a cleaner drug (trileptal)...].
Oh what could happen to you if you take this drug. This drug could induce suicidal thinking, death, thrombocytopenia, leukemia and a host of other life-ruining conditions.
A cleaner drug? How could a drug be cleaner, if it could cause death?
I am prevented from posting here the complete history of mind-altering drugs due to the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung. If you were allowed to know what is prohibited to me to post here, the truth about these drugs could be known to you. Knowing the truth about psychotropic drugs here is supportive in any forum for it could help you make a more-informed decision as to take these drugs promoted here which could save your life, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, and save the lives of those murdered by those that have induced into them the compeling to kill themselves and/or others, unless death is wanted, and if so, death then could be seen as supportive.
Lou
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/trileptal/suicidal+thoughts
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/trileptal/completed suicide
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/trileptal/thrombocytopenia
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/trileptal/acute+lymphocytic+leukaemia
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/trileptal/leukopenia
Posted by SLS on January 5, 2013, at 20:01:53
In reply to Lou's warning-uhnkhuvr, posted by Lou Pilder on January 5, 2013, at 17:44:58
> It is written here,[...it (Trileptal) lacks the risk of...cognitive impairments...].
> My friemds, be not deceived.,Do you feel that I exaggerated? I probably should have said "much reduced risk".
Do you think I should be blocked from posting for exaggerating?
It would be okay if you were to think this of me. I think this of you.
You chose to use the eHealthMe website again?
"On Dec, 31, 2012: 10,588 people reported to have side effects when taking Trileptal. Among them, 296 people (2.80%) have Memory Impairment."
Don't forget how to use statistics. Did it escape you that more than 10,588 people have taken Trileptal since it was first approved in the year 2000?
"This is a real world study of Memory impairment (Memory loss) among people who take Trileptal. It is created by eHealthMe based on 296 reports from FDA and user community. In total 10,593 Trileptal users are studied."
The eHealthMe "user community" is not the FDA. It very well might be that the FDA reported exactly one case, and the eHealthMe community 295 cases since the year 2000. Do you know what the statistics are on this? I do know that eHealthMe has displayed a graph that shows that only 15 complaints exist for the year 2012. At the 2.8% rate of reports they calculate, this would mean that only 535 people took Trileptal that year? What about the year 2010 when eHealthMe claims to have counted 48 cases. This means that only 1714 people took Trileptal that year?
This is how disinformation works.
- Scott
Posted by ChicagoKat on January 5, 2013, at 20:30:37
In reply to Re: A Battered Kat is Back » ChicagoKat, posted by Phillipa on January 5, 2013, at 18:32:10
> Kat Friends try to protect each other. Hope the nasty flu is gone. Phillipa
Thanks so much Philliipa. Flu is getting better, despite hopeless nurse, ie my husband ;)
Kat
Posted by Phillipa on January 5, 2013, at 20:51:04
In reply to Re: A Battered Kat is Back » Phillipa, posted by ChicagoKat on January 5, 2013, at 20:30:37
Kat that's great next he will have it and you will be the Nurse. Phillipa
Posted by Phil on January 5, 2013, at 20:57:18
In reply to Re: A Battered Kat is Back » Phillipa, posted by ChicagoKat on January 5, 2013, at 20:30:37
This is supposed to be a very bad flu season. Not that I have to tell you. Get better. :)
Posted by ChicagoKat on January 6, 2013, at 11:21:24
In reply to Re: A Battered Kat is Back » ChicagoKat, posted by Phillipa on January 5, 2013, at 20:51:04
that's funny Phillipa, but he can't get sick, at least until he finishes the baklava he's making :)
Posted by ChicagoKat on January 6, 2013, at 11:23:43
In reply to Re: A Battered Kat is Back » ChicagoKat, posted by Phil on January 5, 2013, at 20:57:18
> This is supposed to be a very bad flu season. Not that I have to tell you. Get better. :)
Thanks Phil...I'm glad to report that the stomach flu has run its course and I am feeling better. Physically at least. Mentally is another story; lots and lots of tears being shed today :(
How are you Phil?
Kat
Posted by Phil on January 6, 2013, at 11:51:53
In reply to Re: A Battered Kat is Back » Phil, posted by ChicagoKat on January 6, 2013, at 11:23:43
Wee manic. I consider that a vacation in Hawaii compared to what you've been through. Don't know you well but very proud of you. Hope kitty is OK.
My orange tabby kept me company all night while I failed to sleep.
Posted by ChicagoKat on January 6, 2013, at 15:14:25
In reply to Re: A Battered Kat is Back » ChicagoKat, posted by Phil on January 6, 2013, at 11:51:53
> Wee manic. I consider that a vacation in Hawaii compared to what you've been through. Don't know you well but very proud of you. Hope kitty is OK.
> My orange tabby kept me company all night while I failed to sleep.Phil, thank you SOOO much for your kind words. You saying you are proud of me brought tears to my eyes (the good kind)
I must admit, my worry about my kitty Jack is what has me most upset these days. I would go through the hell at the hospital that I experienced 100 more times if he could only be well. I sure wish our pets had life spans as long as ours. It's so hard to lose them, especiaally when you are already debilitated by the demon.
Anyways, thanks again, I appreciate your words more than I can say.
Kat
Posted by Emme_V2 on January 6, 2013, at 19:10:13
In reply to A battered Kat is back, posted by ChicagoKat on January 4, 2013, at 14:45:18
Holy cow. Kat, that is one heck of a terrible roller-coaster ride. I'm sorry you had to go through that and that your cat is ill on top of it all. You must be made of some pretty tough stuff! I am very tired right now, so this will be short. Hope you hang in there okay.
emme
Posted by Jeroen on January 7, 2013, at 16:00:57
In reply to Re: Lou's warning-dhth » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on January 4, 2013, at 18:09:22
lou stop acting like a child to everyone
and that satanic sh*t u need treatment
Posted by ChicagoKat on January 7, 2013, at 16:22:00
In reply to Re: A battered Kat is back » ChicagoKat, posted by Emme_V2 on January 6, 2013, at 19:10:13
> Holy cow. Kat, that is one heck of a terrible roller-coaster ride. I'm sorry you had to go through that and that your cat is ill on top of it all. You must be made of some pretty tough stuff! I am very tired right now, so this will be short. Hope you hang in there okay.
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> emmeThanks for your kind words emme. I made it through it simply because I had to to get myself home. The worst thing by far is finding out my cat is sick. I would be OK if it weren't for that. Life sure can throw some awful punches, can't it?
I'm tired myself, so my reply will be short too :)
Thanks again, and I hope you are doing well.
Kat
Posted by rjlockhart37 on January 8, 2013, at 22:19:23
In reply to A battered Kat is back, posted by ChicagoKat on January 4, 2013, at 14:45:18
Kat, listen im sorry for not getting to your post earlier....simply my mind just stared at the babbleboards, but anyways well the klonopin....you threw it up so, that wasnt really considered..a end attempt...but still i guess they have to record any/everything you did before the hospital. Klonopin can't kill you...like barbiturates....it would probaly put into a deep sleep...i dunno about the coma part...but i've always read benzos are not fatal by themselves, now with booze or 4 shots of tequila that's diffrent.
But....that's ... im so sorry this happened, there is something that would maybe help...Cymbalta or TCA's...some of them have pain relieving properties, but its probaly only the equivalint to Ibroupen.
Tegretol will help some anxiety, it decreases the electrical firing in the brain, siezure medication with some psychiatric properties. There is Depakote....i think that would help...because it does act on some GABA receptors like benzos...but its nothing at all compared to them in sedation. I was going to bring up Gabatril but the doctor is not going to use that....to complicated right now. You could also ask for hydroxyzine....i got that at an addiction treatment clinic...they would have no problem giving it to you....but still im not the doctor...but that's a quick option you may want to ask. Nuerontin maybe later on...its the power of suggestion with doctors, and learning their intellect.
Don't feel bad Kat, this was a situation that had to be treated, even though it could of been diffrent....it just happened, i always think things happen for a reason. So, its ok...don't let the past...even yesturday alter the happiness in today.
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