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Posted by Jeroen on September 7, 2012, at 9:29:43
Hi i'm taking as prescribed ointment Nizoral
twice daily for 2 weeks and its gotten worse,
i asked the nurse they say keep putting it on the big red spot, i think they are insane, this is also affecting my mood this ointment.. yes its true i feel it...http://users.pandora.be/topsite/infectie.jpg please watch this its looking bad
the thing is i am getting psychiatric treatment right now and dont these people know any better?
I want to quit this ointment, and ask for an dermatologic appointment asap...whar started as 3 spots is not 1 big spot :(
Posted by Phillipa on September 7, 2012, at 10:08:00
In reply to im having a nasty fungal infection *URGENT*, posted by Jeroen on September 7, 2012, at 9:29:43
Jeroen do you think it could be eczema like I recently developed? It was biopsied both on back and other spot. I was given cortisone cream. Nizoral cream I also have for the perioral dermatitis around my mouth but it didn't work so now it's two antibiotic lotions. Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on September 7, 2012, at 10:28:38
In reply to Re: im having a nasty fungal infection *URGENT* » Jeroen, posted by Phillipa on September 7, 2012, at 10:08:00
Hi Philippa, :) Yes, could be, but this oilment has an effect on my mood and i feel worse and its making the condition worse too
i was properly diagnosed by a dermatologist
Posted by TemporarilyBob on September 7, 2012, at 10:45:50
In reply to im having a nasty fungal infection *URGENT*, posted by Jeroen on September 7, 2012, at 9:29:43
Is it urgent enough for ER care? Have you been taking follow-up pictures to show how it may be spreading/advancing? Have you benn documenting your mood or even your vitals, like your pulse rate, for additional data?
Sometimes these are unusual, if not expected, side effects. And sometimes your caregivers can be blinded by misconceptions from "knowing you" and "expecting" to see something when quite a different thing is happening.
Document, document, document. Don't push yourself into a frenzy about it, but be able to confront them with facts.
Posted by Jeroen on September 7, 2012, at 10:58:59
In reply to Re: im having a nasty fungal infection *URGENT* » Jeroen, posted by TemporarilyBob on September 7, 2012, at 10:45:50
I am at the hospital so, i'm having some care lol
thanks for asking Bob, i know you all are helping and caring, thanks
Posted by TemporarilyBob on September 7, 2012, at 12:30:20
In reply to Re: im having a nasty fungal infection *URGENT*, posted by Jeroen on September 7, 2012, at 10:58:59
> I am at the hospital so, i'm having some care lol
> thanks for asking Bob, i know you all are helping and caring, thanksGOOD!
That first step is always the hardest. I know; I took a similar one just a few days ago. Grace favor you.
Posted by Phillipa on September 7, 2012, at 20:53:01
In reply to to Philippa, posted by Jeroen on September 7, 2012, at 10:28:38
Jeroen since the creams are absorbed into the bloodstream this is very possible. Did you report it and ask to switch creams? Phillipa
Posted by phidippus on September 8, 2012, at 16:02:05
In reply to im having a nasty fungal infection *URGENT*, posted by Jeroen on September 7, 2012, at 9:29:43
Fluconazole. Ask for it. It'll knock out any fungal infection. And if it doesn't go away, it ain't fungal.
Fluconazole will not effect you psychiatriically.
Eric
Posted by Jeroen on September 8, 2012, at 16:08:39
In reply to Re: im having a nasty fungal infection *URGENT* » Jeroen, posted by phidippus on September 8, 2012, at 16:02:05
golden advice
will certainly do sothank you!
Posted by bleauberry on September 8, 2012, at 16:08:56
In reply to im having a nasty fungal infection *URGENT*, posted by Jeroen on September 7, 2012, at 9:29:43
Jereon I have seen this exact situation in my own family. Long story short, you've got the wrong treatment. All you need is one or two doses of Diflucan. I've seen nasty yeast and fungus infections totally unresponsive to nizoral, nystatin, and herbs, but completely knocked down, gone, in less than 36 hours with Diflucan.
Now, I think it is important to look beyond this, deeper than this. You've got a fungus infection. Ok. That to me says a lot. That doesn't generally happen when an immune system is in good operating order. Many things that cause depression, also cause immune dysregulation, but from my own views it is usually the immune dysregulation that causes the depression or any psychiatric symptoms. You mentioned a couple years ago how you responded favorably to an anti-viral med. I'm not sure if you can see it, but there are pieces of the puzzle here suggesting immune/infection treatments could get you better than psychiatric meds. You herxed like hell on Minocycline. That was at the time wrongly viewed as intolerable side effects, which, anyone who knows that med and infections, knows that what you described was textbook Herxheimer, not side effects, and not bizarre intolerable whatever. It was actually doing exactly what it is was hoped to do, it's just that whatever you are dealing with needed to be approached much more gently than you did in the early going.
If you are still on Mino, then that could explain the origin of the fungal infection. Diflucan is needed to knock it down fast. I have a good deal of experience on this topic and I have never seen anything else work as well or as fast. I'm not even sure why the other antifungal options are still sold because I just have not seen them work good, ever. Going forward, anytime someone is on antibiotics, they need to also be taking high doses of probiotics and/or yogurt and/or Kefir. I'm not talking daily maintenance doses or regular eating doses, I'm talking therapeutically intended doses, which are a lot higher. Mino and others will not only kill the bad bacteria, but the good ones too, the ones that fend off yeast. Those good bacteria need to be replenished on a daily basis.
As I view it, I do not see anything in your history or clues that points to anything else other than an infectious/immune issues as the root problem of every symptom you have. I mean, everything is so complicated, we as humans don't really know what we are dealing with, but you've got a handful of clues all pointing in the same direction. With that in mind, and respecting how many other treatments failed that were not aimed at those clues, I think it has to be seriously considered.
As a side note, the antiviral med you took is also a dopamine agonist, and is indirectly an antibiotic (changes the PH within cells that creates a hostile environment for bacteria to thrive). That med is added, in Lyme circles, to turbocharge antibiotics, even though it is antiviral, and it's because of the PH thing.
Posted by Jeroen on September 8, 2012, at 16:12:03
In reply to Re: im having a nasty fungal infection *URGENT*, posted by bleauberry on September 8, 2012, at 16:08:56
hey, i havent tried Minocycline yet
my psychiatrist wont let me tryim switching clinic soon so ican try it
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on September 8, 2012, at 18:00:48
In reply to bleauberry, posted by Jeroen on September 8, 2012, at 16:12:03
A corticosteroid/antifungal combination ointment (or a topical steroid and oral fluconazole) might be the go
Try and keep a grip on your rampany hypochondria
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