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Posted by zonked on February 19, 2012, at 15:29:28
So, finally got on a decent cocktail ...
I had bug-bombed my house, and unfortunately, the caps were off my meds (including Dexedrine) and um, well, the last two weeks have been depression worst than I've ever known.
I didn't want to call the doctor and explain, because I do not want to arouse any suspicion.
Wow. I guess for me, being on Dexedrine therapy means that if I ever want to go off, it must be done VERY gradually. I did not experience tolerance this time, but 2-3 days after I discarded the tainted pills, I have been stuck in a mind-numbing depression-anxiety mess.
I have even had to drink about every other day so at least, at some point, I have some relief until I see the doctor at the regularly scheduled time.
I blame the FDA and DEA. If I had a refill on file (in the US, there are ZERO refills for Schedule II meds like Dexedrine), I would have been fine a few days ago.
As soon as I'm back on dexedrine, alcohol once again will be nasty and unappealing to me.
Time. Time is so weird. When you're mentally well, it passes normally or quickly; when you are severely depressed and anxious, every second is like a day.
THE ONLY reason I have made it without hospitalization is that I have a sick relative who's going in for another brain surgery, and they do not prescribe stimulants at all, even if you are already on them, while in the hospital--the idea being, I think, that the goal of hospitalization is to hold you around for a few days and stimulants are too potentially destabilizing.
This is a nightmare I cannot repeat. Yuck. I shoulda taken a picture of what the bug bomb did to my pills, but I didn't think of it at the time, and didn't know what a hell I was about to experience.
Live, learn.
-z
Posted by Phillipa on February 19, 2012, at 17:39:15
In reply to Stimulant withdrawal = unimaginable pain, posted by zonked on February 19, 2012, at 15:29:28
Legitimate is there some reason can't call your doc and explain what happened? Seriously? Phillipa
Posted by emmanuel98 on February 19, 2012, at 18:31:46
In reply to Stimulant withdrawal = unimaginable pain, posted by zonked on February 19, 2012, at 15:29:28
Even if you had a refill for a schedule 3 drug, the pharmacy won't refill until 30 days. Generally not even with a call from your doctor. That's been my experience anyway.
Posted by Christ_empowered on February 19, 2012, at 20:44:32
In reply to Re: Stimulant withdrawal = unimaginable pain, posted by emmanuel98 on February 19, 2012, at 18:31:46
Can you just call your doctor? This situation is ridiculous.
Posted by gadchik on February 23, 2012, at 10:14:43
In reply to Stimulant withdrawal = unimaginable pain, posted by zonked on February 19, 2012, at 15:29:28
>>Time. Time is so weird. When you're mentally well, it passes normally or quickly; when you are severely depressed and anxious, every second is like a day.
Truer words have not been spoken.Hope things get better.
Posted by dhbranx on February 25, 2012, at 22:02:55
In reply to Stimulant withdrawal = unimaginable pain, posted by zonked on February 19, 2012, at 15:29:28
It must be nice to get medication that was supposed go to those who don't complain or have problems with it. We had to go to the streets when we were teenagers to learn to melt down the whole script and shoot it all at once. No one even thought about teaching reality about pharmaceutical chemicals (you don't get it on the streets, you don't trade it, and you don't tell anyone about it). The rules concerning controlled substances are forgotten in the wayside. If you could sign for the stuff you don't want anymore, we could get it (the ones who actually have it and signed for you). We didn't have withdrawel, we didn't OD, we didn't talk about it to our enemies. We just have the damn stuff and can't get it for ourselves.
Posted by novelagent on February 26, 2012, at 8:44:18
In reply to Re: Stimulant withdrawal = unimaginable pain » zonked, posted by dhbranx on February 25, 2012, at 22:02:55
take CDP Choline. It repairs your brain cells, which will stop the withdrawls after a few months. The studies in drug addicts use 2grams. It also will reduce cravings for a stimulant in the first place, according to clinical trials. Make sure it's CDP, so it will pass the blood brain barrier.
> It must be nice to get medication that was supposed go to those who don't complain or have problems with it. We had to go to the streets when we were teenagers to learn to melt down the whole script and shoot it all at once. No one even thought about teaching reality about pharmaceutical chemicals (you don't get it on the streets, you don't trade it, and you don't tell anyone about it). The rules concerning controlled substances are forgotten in the wayside. If you could sign for the stuff you don't want anymore, we could get it (the ones who actually have it and signed for you). We didn't have withdrawel, we didn't OD, we didn't talk about it to our enemies. We just have the damn stuff and can't get it for ourselves.
Posted by dhbranx on February 26, 2012, at 16:51:06
In reply to Stimulant withdrawal = unimaginable pain, posted by zonked on February 19, 2012, at 15:29:28
I don't know what chloline is but I was the sighted companion of my Uncle Bill, who had terminal pancreatic carcinoma. he was double,and triple dealing the pain medication, but he wouldn't take it, he just sold it and busted everybody who bought it from him. when he went into the hospital to get a stent installed in his duodenum, they gave him a shot that was supposed to 'eliminate the opoids' from his system. (he didn't have very many in him because he was just a dope dealer). He started having seizures in front of his son, Roy, and me, his nephew, Mike (who had his Durable Power of Attorney). We saw that the seizures came from Hospice of the Comforter, not the 'opoids'. This is all BS, if you want my opinion, you can quit kissing the butt.
Posted by novelagent on February 27, 2012, at 14:13:28
In reply to Re: Stimulant withdrawal = unimaginable pain, posted by dhbranx on February 26, 2012, at 16:51:06
I have absolutely no idea what this is suppose to mean whatsoever. Are you on drugs? (Non-judgmental question; merely curious).
> I don't know what chloline is but I was the sighted companion of my Uncle Bill, who had terminal pancreatic carcinoma. he was double,and triple dealing the pain medication, but he wouldn't take it, he just sold it and busted everybody who bought it from him. when he went into the hospital to get a stent installed in his duodenum, they gave him a shot that was supposed to 'eliminate the opoids' from his system. (he didn't have very many in him because he was just a dope dealer). He started having seizures in front of his son, Roy, and me, his nephew, Mike (who had his Durable Power of Attorney). We saw that the seizures came from Hospice of the Comforter, not the 'opoids'. This is all BS, if you want my opinion, you can quit kissing the butt.
Posted by dhbranx on February 29, 2012, at 15:46:51
In reply to Re: Stimulant withdrawal = unimaginable pain » dhbranx, posted by novelagent on February 27, 2012, at 14:13:28
What it means is that your complaint is phony butt kissing that ruins our chances of getting proper treatment for the legitimate ailments. What it means is we don't want drug addicts using our prescriptions any more. Dig?> I have absolutely no idea what this is suppose to mean whatsoever. Are you on drugs? (Non-judgmental question; merely curious).
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Posted by novelagent on February 29, 2012, at 16:20:23
In reply to Re: Stimulant withdrawal = unimaginable pain, posted by dhbranx on February 29, 2012, at 15:46:51
I think you're misuing the term "butt-kissing" as it means to suck up to someone...anyhow, I'm also not sure what "your" means as I only took the medication as prescribed (although my doc prescribed high doses).
> What it means is that your complaint is phony butt kissing that ruins our chances of getting proper treatment for the legitimate ailments. What it means is we don't want drug addicts using our prescriptions any more. Dig?> I have absolutely no idea what this is suppose to mean whatsoever. Are you on drugs? (Non-judgmental question; merely curious).
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Posted by dhbranx on February 29, 2012, at 16:38:18
In reply to Re: Stimulant withdrawal = unimaginable pain » dhbranx, posted by novelagent on February 27, 2012, at 14:13:28
Not judgmental, just requiring a little scientific accuracy. If you do the experiments with the problems you describe (pain after d/c 'ing stimulants), I'm certain you will reach the same conclusion that it is that fact that someone has tampered with the food (taxes or tolls, which are illegal add contaminants, or adulterate, food and drugs). When you say you don't understand my comments about contrived withdrawel, concocted by those who are attempting to genetically alter humanoids, you show that you don't have anything to do with the FDA or any other regulatory commission. It is my premise that you have imposed taxes, as an imposter, claiming to be the GOVERNMENTS>
Posted by novelagent on March 1, 2012, at 9:13:16
In reply to Re: Stimulant withdrawal = unimaginable pain, posted by dhbranx on February 29, 2012, at 16:38:18
sigh. I remember when this place was articulate, back in 2003....
> Not judgmental, just requiring a little scientific accuracy. If you do the experiments with the problems you describe (pain after d/c 'ing stimulants), I'm certain you will reach the same conclusion that it is that fact that someone has tampered with the food (taxes or tolls, which are illegal add contaminants, or adulterate, food and drugs). When you say you don't understand my comments about contrived withdrawel, concocted by those who are attempting to genetically alter humanoids, you show that you don't have anything to do with the FDA or any other regulatory commission. It is my premise that you have imposed taxes, as an imposter, claiming to be the GOVERNMENTS>
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