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Posted by tepi on June 21, 2011, at 23:01:07
I return to consult a P Doc after 5 years of being living wihtout them , this because I was so desperate and I was drinking too much
My mon was urge me to do it so I only do it for her
At the end of the noon , it happened what I suppossed it was gonna happened. ( They are all the same , 90% of the times) He had and postgraduate title in Harvard but for me he was nothing . He said he wrote a lot of books and many many things . But honestly he was nothing relevant , he was so unprofessional and of course he only had to talk a little bit with me and the go on with whatever Doc knows.. Prescribe meds !!
PDoc dont do anything , it doesnt matter how beautiful they talk , at the end what only matter is his avility to know their patients needsAnd yes I knew it, I told this fat man I have tried everything on the market so I asked him to give me something unusual , do your best please , I told him.
He started talking about some dumbs things about the brain , the he kept quiet and that was allSo he me told ok , take this Risperdal and Prystiq combo, try it for 15 days and come back later
Oh my god !! I told him I already tried Risperdal and that Prysic was like Effexor?
He is giving me the same sh*t!
So here I go again!!
Guys I feel like Im going nowhere , I feel Im running in circles !
I think I dont need docs , maybe I should keep prescribing the drugs for me!So tomorrow Im starting this bad meds , holy crap !
Posted by sigismund on June 21, 2011, at 23:22:23
In reply to Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same, posted by tepi on June 21, 2011, at 23:01:07
Tep, would you prefer that I said to you that (beyond Nardil) IMO, psychiatry has nothing to offer you?
I don't think you should bother if you have had extensive experience with SSRIs and not found the helpful.
You are in a trap. It is a real challenge working how to get out of it. You already know better than this doc. Don't you?
I doubt he has anything to offer you. It's alright for him. He is highly paid.
Hope? I dunno. Look after yourself, get as healthy as you can, keep your eyes open.
Posted by Phillipa on June 21, 2011, at 23:55:39
In reply to Re: Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same » tepi, posted by sigismund on June 21, 2011, at 23:22:23
Sigi is right Tepi you know nardil does help and alchohol no as keeps the med from working right. So will you try pritiq again or go back on nardil? Love Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on June 22, 2011, at 0:02:26
In reply to Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same, posted by tepi on June 21, 2011, at 23:01:07
Tepi,
I'm so sorry. I really am. You start tomorrow? Even I don't have much faith in that combination. Well you've tried those two things together, the effexor and the risperdal?
I can only say pristiq didn't help my social issues. It can have a withdrawal like effexor, too.
Were you able to tell him about the social phobia?
He didn't bring up Nardil? I had thought that was alright for you, though not a cure.
You know you don't have to take the medicine. Could you call him?
Posted by sigismund on June 22, 2011, at 2:30:28
In reply to Re: Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same » tepi, posted by floatingbridge on June 22, 2011, at 0:02:26
Here are some random thoughts.
Just because you are in mental pain does not mean that psychiatry has anything good to offer.
Just because you lack things, and with good reason envy those who have them, does not mean psychiatry can help you.
Really, if all they can do for your fear is dull it and you, might you not be better off to find a way of living with it?
How? (I hear you think.)
Try to keep healthy and strong. Move toward things that make you feel better and stay away from things that make you feel bad.
If I was 20 again, I'd take up martial arts. Something physical.
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on June 22, 2011, at 3:11:41
In reply to Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same, posted by tepi on June 21, 2011, at 23:01:07
Maybe there are some things that psychiatry cant help - and maybe we as patients, as well as the psychiatrists, need to understand or accept that?
Posted by floatingbridge on June 22, 2011, at 7:38:35
In reply to Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same, posted by tepi on June 21, 2011, at 23:01:07
Tepi,
I think medicine has something to offer. Risperdal was part of another babbler's treatment along with amitryptline. If this doc is a hot shot, maybe he can add Nardil. Is Risperdal counterindicated with Nardil? I keep returning to Nardil because you seemed better. Also, in the long run, drinking will do much more harm--and it isn't helping you.
Don't give up tepi. I think meds +a good therapist can improve your life. I wish you the very best.
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Posted by Christ_empowered on June 22, 2011, at 8:23:41
In reply to Re: Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same » tepi, posted by floatingbridge on June 22, 2011, at 7:38:35
Psychiatrists really aren't that great. I'm not trying to discourage you, but they're usually not all that insightful, empathetic, friendly, professional, or helpful. Mine is OK (then again, I just take an antipsychotic--I'm perfect for public mental health), but overall, I've been decidedly unimpressed by shrinks.
Anyway, sorry you had a rough time, just realize that the medical establishment isn't always that helpful or impressive or wonderful. I personally think you'd do well to take a tranquilizer and find some hobbies.
Posted by floatingbridge on June 22, 2011, at 9:46:44
In reply to Re: Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same, posted by Christ_empowered on June 22, 2011, at 8:23:41
It's true, I think CE, that many pdocs may not be particularly warm, nurturing, or empathic. They can be really odd in an unpleasant way. Rude or prideful.
Therapists that work with people with social phobia specifically, the ones I have worked with were very wonderful. Maybe I was just lucky finding them.
I feel therapists drawn to work with
social phobia can be really nice. They do not have the phobia, but understand it, and my theory is that since they like people, see how important the need is for some people to connect. Others can and should develop hobbies. Hobbies are great, and that is also preferable for
some.But tepi, I keep pointing you toward other people because I just feel like that is what you want. It only takes a few
good friends to keep an introvert going. And a good therapist can really help their
clients be more comfortable in public. Can help them enough so they can begin
to date. The best are like the most understanding of coaches. They understand how scared and sensitive
their clients are.So a Harvard psychiatrist may not impress me nearly as much as the Yale psychologist that helped me once. It wasn't easy though. I would go to speak and my throat would involuntarily close.
But he kept encouraging me.I'm not cured (at all!), but a little better with people. It's worth fighting for if you want it. I tell you the same things, tepi. I'm sorry if it's annoying. I can stop if you've had enough.
Warmly
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Posted by sigismund on June 22, 2011, at 14:33:16
In reply to Re: Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same, posted by Christ_empowered on June 22, 2011, at 8:23:41
Although if I'm not mistaken Tep, you work?
And you need something to help with that?
Posted by Phillipa on June 22, 2011, at 19:39:05
In reply to Re: Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same, posted by sigismund on June 22, 2011, at 14:33:16
Sigi that is true. Tepi was working. PJ
Posted by tepi on June 23, 2011, at 23:23:40
In reply to Re: Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same » tepi, posted by sigismund on June 21, 2011, at 23:22:23
> Tep, would you prefer that I said to you that (beyond Nardil) IMO, psychiatry has nothing to offer you?
>
> I don't think you should bother if you have had extensive experience with SSRIs and not found the helpful.
>
> You are in a trap. It is a real challenge working how to get out of it. You already know better than this doc. Don't you?
>
> I doubt he has anything to offer you. It's alright for him. He is highly paid.
>
> Hope? I dunno. Look after yourself, get as healthy as you can, keep your eyes open.
Hi Sigsi , I really dont know what else to do.
Im started to feel that drugged sensation of the risperdal and I feel so bad. I have had to keep drinking a little bit. I know its not an exit , but I dont like these drugs, Pristiq???
I told him to give me something different
I dont undertsand psychiatry , everything its so false. Its sad to think psychitry its not gonna save your life
Posted by tepi on June 23, 2011, at 23:25:40
In reply to Re: Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same, posted by Phillipa on June 21, 2011, at 23:55:39
> Sigi is right Tepi you know nardil does help and alchohol no as keeps the med from working right. So will you try pritiq again or go back on nardil? Love Phillipa
Hi phillipa , no Nardil wasnt helping me the way I want it . Yes it was some of the best but I still was so bad with my life that I started drinking and having death thougths
I dont know if it good to lose tha faith on meds
Posted by tepi on June 23, 2011, at 23:31:13
In reply to Re: Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same » tepi, posted by floatingbridge on June 22, 2011, at 0:02:26
> Tepi,
>
> I'm so sorry. I really am. You start tomorrow? Even I don't have much faith in that combination. Well you've tried those two things together, the effexor and the risperdal?I tried effexor in the past.. what can I say.. waste of time . I never combine Efexxor with an AP , but i did it with most of the SSRIS
>
> I can only say pristiq didn't help my social issues. It can have a withdrawal like effexor, too.
>Holy , thatz the only thing left I need it.
> Were you able to tell him about the social phobia?
>I told him the word phobia like 100 times in an hour just to remind him what I was looking help I think he treated like an standard patient
Take this combination... SsRI + AP> He didn't bring up Nardil? I had thought that was alright for you, though not a cure.
>No , Doctors in Mexico dont use Nardil . It is not in the Mexico market.
> You know you don't have to take the medicine. Could you call him?
>
>mmm Im already taking these meds . I Promise mom I was not gonna be stubborn and I was gonna obey whatever the doctor tells me..
Posted by tepi on June 23, 2011, at 23:40:41
In reply to Re: Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same, posted by sigismund on June 22, 2011, at 2:30:28
> Here are some random thoughts.
>
> Just because you are in mental pain does not mean that psychiatry has anything good to offer.
>I like it
> Just because you lack things, and with good reason envy those who have them, does not mean psychiatry can help you.
>I like it
> Really, if all they can do for your fear is dull it and you, might you not be better off to find a way of living with it?
>Well yes sigsi , that is what Im trying to do in the last 10 years but Im not that smart
> How? (I hear you think.)
>
I thougth , but there is not a good solution yet...> Try to keep healthy and strong. Move toward things that make you feel better and stay away from things that make you feel bad.
>
> If I was 20 again, I'd take up martial arts. Something physical.
>
>
I try to excercise everyday . I go out to run 5 miles . I try to eat healthy . I try to dress ok (however I ran from girls even if they chase me)What should I do? Maybe leave Mexico and go Europe looking for a different life
Posted by tepi on June 23, 2011, at 23:55:40
In reply to Re: Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same, posted by sigismund on June 22, 2011, at 14:33:16
> Although if I'm not mistaken Tep, you work?
>
> And you need something to help with that?
Yes I work . Im a mechanical engineer. That is something difficult in some way . Doctors look at me and they tell me, oooh I see
, you had a degree , you work , you are healthy young person
YOU DONT NEED ANYTHING , they must think.. just give me some money and take these meds...They are wrong , everybody is wrong , even my family. Maybe I have all those things but Im still licing in a hell
Sorry
Thanks for your posts
Posted by floatingbridge on June 24, 2011, at 0:22:32
In reply to Re: Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same, posted by tepi on June 23, 2011, at 23:55:40
I don't know. Maybe the Europe idea isn't a bad one. At least it appeals to me.
Thanks for writing back and explaining some things. There is a lot I don't understand.
My goodness, I loved running. Even living in hell, five miles is very good, I think. I mean, that you do these things and take care of yourself.
I didn't intend to startle you about pristiq and withdrawal. I thought you should know up front if no one else told you. It would probably be like effexor. If you've been through that, I imagine that's what to expect.
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> > Although if I'm not mistaken Tep, you work?
> >
> > And you need something to help with that?
>
>
> Yes I work . Im a mechanical engineer. That is something difficult in some way . Doctors look at me and they tell me, oooh I see
> , you had a degree , you work , you are healthy young person
> YOU DONT NEED ANYTHING , they must think.. just give me some money and take these meds...
>
> They are wrong , everybody is wrong , even my family. Maybe I have all those things but Im still licing in a hell
> Sorry
> Thanks for your posts
Posted by sigismund on June 24, 2011, at 13:30:52
In reply to Re: Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same » floatingbridge, posted by tepi on June 23, 2011, at 23:31:13
> I Promise mom I was not gonna be stubborn and I was gonna obey whatever the doctor tells me.
I dunno, Tep.
Is that reason enough to move to Europe?
It is very unlikely, from what you say, that you will find this treatment helpful.
I can understand your mother wanting you to be treated, but you have been through it all before.
Posted by tepi on June 25, 2011, at 5:22:16
In reply to Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same, posted by tepi on June 21, 2011, at 23:01:07
2 days and I already have sexual disfuntion...
These meds are pure sh*t!Please tell me, do you think I should stay on them? Im taking something like Effexor and Risperdal...a classic combo....
dont they understand that I need new things??Yes and now Im thinking of sttoping wih this
fake treatment . Im starting to feel like I did some years ago with the SSRNIS and APs
Posted by floatingbridge on June 25, 2011, at 11:26:47
In reply to Re: Went again with a Doc after 5 years and ,,. same, posted by tepi on June 25, 2011, at 5:22:16
tepi, two things:
You're in the start up w/ pristiq (is it?).
You already had very low, (like less than zero) expectations on this.
And three, I can't decide if medication is worth it or not myself :-/ Or that type of medication. Yeah, pristiq 'blocked' me up. Can't speak to the risperdal. I haven't tried it.
You can only listen to your mom to a point (and I am one, myself). Then it's best if you decide.
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