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Posted by floatingbridge on June 20, 2011, at 22:26:56
I broke up with my pdoc of three years.
He said I behaved like a willful child.
He did not feel good about referring me to a doc that handled maoi or ptsd.
I started posting here three years ago. Do the math, then please forgive my rude manners.
I am grieving.
I am not w/o resources, only without meds. I've been here before though I try to avoid it.
I will remember: doctors can always walk away and still sleep at night.
Blessings to us all.
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Posted by hyperfocus on June 20, 2011, at 22:50:00
In reply to I don't know why I say goodbye, you say hello, posted by floatingbridge on June 20, 2011, at 22:26:56
What does wilful child mean - that you absolutely want to get better?
I'm sorry about the situation fb, but you have the right to choose your health provider. 3 years is a long time to retain somebody and not make much progress. You're the only person who can gauge how you feel and what particular meds do to you, especially when you have a complex set of problems. You also need a doc who quite simply knows you better and understands your personality and unique situation. You are not going to get dependent on benzos and opiates - not saying long-term use is a good idea but you do take them for the indicated reason. Also MAOIS are probably the class of drugs that have the potential to help you the most, especially Nardil. You need a doc who's comfortable with 2nd- and 3rd- and 4th- line treatments and understands the PTSD cluster of symptoms.
I know it's tough right now but...hang in there I guess is all. One day at a time. Or one hour or one minute. You have a partner in misery - if that's any consolation.
Posted by floatingbridge on June 20, 2011, at 23:35:57
In reply to Re: I don't know why I say goodbye, you say hello, posted by hyperfocus on June 20, 2011, at 22:50:00
Thanks HP, that's consolation.
I notice according to your signature your pharmacology has simpllfied. True? Congratulations :)
Though you know I wish you didn't know, it is nice not to be so lonely.
Posted by Phillipa on June 21, 2011, at 0:39:52
In reply to Re: I don't know why I say goodbye, you say hello, posted by floatingbridge on June 20, 2011, at 23:35:57
Joining the crowd of dissatisfied consumers of healthcare and medications. Phillipa
Posted by sigismund on June 21, 2011, at 1:22:20
In reply to I don't know why I say goodbye, you say hello, posted by floatingbridge on June 20, 2011, at 22:26:56
I stayed with them until they dismissed me.
I even told them how I came to see them for their benefit, and could only play tennis from the wrong end of the court.
Three years? You leave so soon.
But why not an MAOI? Not that I am recommending one.
I managed to get Parnate Rxd easily, and Nardil I would too. I choose my doctors carefully these days. What does leonard Cohen say?.....Winters tooling up? You need to choose your doctors carefully.
I mean (I dunno) the whole things f*ck*d. This is a default position, but that's just me.
I'd be looking for a doc who would prescribe hydrocodone without the paracetamol. I strongly dislike that drug and its position in the pharmacological repertoire.
Posted by floatingbridge on June 21, 2011, at 9:07:25
In reply to Re: I don't know why I say goodbye, you say hello » floatingbridge, posted by sigismund on June 21, 2011, at 1:22:20
When I'm off any meds, my 'family' begins to worry (I usually go down slow).
It's get on your meds! (A very vague term for them.)
Then, get off your meds! You need to try sobriety (Yes, I was told this by my nearest and dearest yesterday.)
It's a very mad world. I feel so bitter and hateful and hurt.
Posted by Christ_empowered on June 21, 2011, at 11:05:51
In reply to Re: I don't know why I say goodbye, you say hello, posted by floatingbridge on June 21, 2011, at 9:07:25
I don't mean to minimize your anger/frustration+hurt, but you're probably better off without this doc. I'm not saying go for an MAOI doc, but I am saying that a) 3 years under treatment is a long time to feel bad and b) "willful child" ? Really? He obviously has authority issues. Would he have preferred you acted like a deferential child?
I wish you the best of luck, whatever you decide...MAOIs, no meds, whatever. He did give you a couple months of refills, didn't he?
If it makes you feel better, I've been dismissed by shrinks for my "attitude". I've also had shrinks refuse to treat me b/c of this "attitude."
Sometimes the best thing you can do for your mental health is stand up for yourself and move on.
Posted by floatingbridge on June 21, 2011, at 11:19:14
In reply to it'll be OK, posted by Christ_empowered on June 21, 2011, at 11:05:51
Thanks CE. Brought a few tears up in a good way.
Yesterday my concerned one was saying sobriety. Like I needed an intervention or something.
Today he flipped out because I have no meds. None. "You mean you aren't on anything?" (I love the use of 'on' here.)
So now, against my better wishes, my concerned one is calling to ask why I am not on an AD.
So no. No refills. No nothing. It's just me unplugged and managing on 20mg of norco.
I'm glad you do see the injustice in that. That, and no referral. Oh, now some not so good tears. Crumbs.
Posted by floatingbridge on June 21, 2011, at 14:48:27
In reply to it'll be OK, posted by Christ_empowered on June 21, 2011, at 11:05:51
CE, whoever you are, you are a strong person. Thanks for the inspiration and opinion.
The break up is a long time in the works. Right now, barring anxiety and any withdrawal, I feel freer. I can see how I contributed to this, esp making a crisis such as not having meds. I can also see some of the stuff you mentioned, and
the feeling is one of walking around after dropping a backpack, just a feather's weight lighter than gravity. It also helps that my husband is no longer acting like this event is one in a chain of f*ck*ps.He was my therapist, too. What more can I say?
Gravity will soon resume it's normal pull. Thanks for all the support from the you and everyone else, too
I look forward to more apt medical treatment from a psychiatrist (man,
these folks are booking into August--yikes!), and having the time to see a therapist I haven't really had time to see. She helps with anxiety.Whew.
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Posted by hyperfocus on June 21, 2011, at 15:10:21
In reply to it's OK » Christ_empowered, posted by floatingbridge on June 21, 2011, at 14:48:27
fb you can't cold turkey off Xanax, It's dangerous to suddenly stop any psych med really. You need to get refill scripts from your old doc till you get a new one - it's your right as his patient. Just call his office and have someone give him the message.
Posted by floatingbridge on June 21, 2011, at 15:18:06
In reply to Re: it's OK » floatingbridge, posted by hyperfocus on June 21, 2011, at 15:10:21
HP, I think it's o.k. I haven't had xanax since 6/1. I had Valium until 6/12, then Ativan until 6/21.
I haven't had a benzo since that Sunday night. It's Wednesday. Have I passed through some withdrawal window. You feel I'm safe?
If need be, I'll call my gp. I'm not asking that man for one more thing.
Thanks. Let me know if you think I'm in danger.
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Posted by floatingbridge on June 21, 2011, at 15:26:47
In reply to Re: it's OK » floatingbridge, posted by hyperfocus on June 21, 2011, at 15:10:21
She'll be delighted to taper me from benzos. She'll at least keep me safe.
Thanks once again, hp.
Posted by torrid on June 23, 2011, at 12:52:35
In reply to it'll be OK, posted by Christ_empowered on June 21, 2011, at 11:05:51
I completely agree. Everytime you came home from the doctor, did you feel supported? Weather that dock was 100% right or 100% wrong he had a negative impact on you as far as I can see. His mannor, no matter how well intended didn't have the intended impact on you. No need to feel loss. So you have to find another doc, it's a drag, so your with out meds for a short time, you will be OK.
Posted by floatingbridge on June 23, 2011, at 12:58:25
In reply to Re: it'll be OK » Christ_empowered, posted by torrid on June 23, 2011, at 12:52:35
Thanks Torrid. Yes. It's true. The world hasn't stopped. Just slowed down and alot blurrier. Have a few calls out. I have no idea. Well, I do. Restart emsam and give it a real positive go trial. Then see. Changing doctors isn't as easy for me as some, though I wish it was.
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Posted by torrid on June 23, 2011, at 13:13:47
In reply to Re: it'll be OK » torrid, posted by floatingbridge on June 23, 2011, at 12:58:25
there is an upside to this. being unmedicaded a new doc can see start from scrach,you can acess weather the previos meds are still indicated, I could go on and on finded the good in this situation.
Posted by floatingbridge on June 23, 2011, at 13:40:42
In reply to Re: it'll be OK » floatingbridge, posted by torrid on June 23, 2011, at 13:13:47
Yes, Torrid, methinks too about the upside.
I have in hand just now an appt to a new anxiety clinic. The first week of July. That's when it opens at Stanford. That's two weeks more of deep breathing and white-knuckling, but maybe this will be worth it.
They have my paperwork and so must know what a bloody mess I am. They work with ptsd and every anxiety disorder. So I'm staying level as possible. Just the right amount of hope, hopefully.
Posted by torrid on June 23, 2011, at 13:52:40
In reply to catching a break » torrid, posted by floatingbridge on June 23, 2011, at 13:40:42
don't build it up to much, there is no quick easy cure. recover is unpleasant hard work. to much build up will lead to hurt feeling and dissapointment
Posted by floatingbridge on June 23, 2011, at 14:44:41
In reply to Re: catching a break » floatingbridge, posted by torrid on June 23, 2011, at 13:52:40
Will try. Especially after the painful visit to the pain clinic. Yikes.
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