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Posted by Maxime on November 3, 2008, at 16:55:08
I've been on 40 mg of Geodon for almost a week now. It is meant to replace 200 mg of Seroquel.
This med is not helping me. :( I have more anxiety than I did on Seroquel. I am also still hearing voices. I wonder if I need to be on a higher dose.
Any advice?
Posted by Phillipa on November 3, 2008, at 18:00:07
In reply to Geodon ain't Seroquel, posted by Maxime on November 3, 2008, at 16:55:08
Looks like geodon can cause anxiety and was highlighted in this page of Web TV. Lets see if this works there are all categories about geodon you can click onto. Phillipa
Geodon Side Effects to Report
There are a number of side effects with Geodon that you should report to your healthcare provider. These include but are not limited to:
Signs of diabetes, such as high blood sugar, increased thirst, frequent urination, and/or extreme hunger (see Geodon and Diabetes)
Large or rapid weight gain
Suicidal thoughts
Anxiety
High blood pressure (hypertension)
Dizziness or fainting when going from a sitting or lying-down position to standing
Feelings of internal restless or jitteriness
Any abnormal muscle movements (these abnormal movements can become permanent if Geodon is not stopped quickly)
Signs or symptoms of neuroleptic malignant syndrome, which can include:
A high fever
Stiff muscles
Confusion
Irregular pulse or blood pressure
An increased heart rate (tachycardia)
Sweating
Irregular heart rhythms (arrhythmias)
Signs of an allergic reaction, including unexplained rash, hives, itching, unexplained swelling, wheezing, or difficulty breathing or swallowing.
Less Common Geodon Side Effects
There are other, less common Geodon side effects that can occur. These side effects occur in less than 2 percent of people taking the medication. It is difficult to tell whether these side effects are actually caused by Geodon or other factors.
These less common Geodon side effects include but are not limited to:
Low thyroid (hypothyroidism) or overactive thyroid (hyperthyroidism)
Anemia
Pneumonia
Nose bleed
Eczema
Dry eyes
Tinnitus (ringing in the ears)
Impotence, also known as erectile dysfunction or ED (see Geodon Sexual Side Effects)
Abnormal ejaculation
Difficulty achieving orgasm
Gout.
Posted by ricker on November 3, 2008, at 18:57:39
In reply to Geodon ain't Seroquel, posted by Maxime on November 3, 2008, at 16:55:08
> I've been on 40 mg of Geodon for almost a week now. It is meant to replace 200 mg of Seroquel.
>
> This med is not helping me. :( I have more anxiety than I did on Seroquel. I am also still hearing voices. I wonder if I need to be on a higher dose.
>
> Any advice?Hi Maxime, I've been thinking about you the last couple of days,wondering how you were making out with the Geodon. From what I read, you are on the starter dose so maybe an increase will help some?
I thought you were taking it mainly for mixed state depression and the lower dose would be adequate. Your Dr. is starting you slow with plans of increasing as you adjust to the med? I would think a higher dose would help with your anxiety as well as calming your mind?Keep positive, at least you are trying and can always return to Serequel if need be. Will you be seeing your Dr. soon or have you been instructed to increase your dose as prescribed??
Best, Rick
Posted by Maxime on November 3, 2008, at 19:37:14
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel » Maxime, posted by ricker on November 3, 2008, at 18:57:39
> Hi Maxime, I've been thinking about you the last couple of days,wondering how you were making out with the Geodon. From what I read, you are on the starter dose so maybe an increase will help some?
> I thought you were taking it mainly for mixed state depression and the lower dose would be adequate. Your Dr. is starting you slow with plans of increasing as you adjust to the med? I would think a higher dose would help with your anxiety as well as calming your mind?
>
> Keep positive, at least you are trying and can always return to Serequel if need be. Will you be seeing your Dr. soon or have you been instructed to increase your dose as prescribed??
>
> Best, Rick
>
>Hi Rick!
I am going to contact my psychiatrist tomorrow and ask for an increase. Since I am starting to have psychotic features going on I think it's REALLY important that I get things under control quickly.
Last night I had to take some Seroquel so that I could calm down.
My food cravings went away on Geodon which is what I was hoping for. But I can't live with this anxiety.
Posted by Maxime on November 3, 2008, at 19:38:36
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on November 3, 2008, at 18:00:07
Thanks Phillipa. I know that it can cause anxiety and I really hope it's not the Geodon doing it. I just returned to work after being on sick leave for 3 weeks ... I hope that's what's causing the anxiety.
Posted by Phillipa on November 3, 2008, at 19:44:01
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on November 3, 2008, at 19:38:36
Maxime the fact that you love to work and feel better when working? Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on November 3, 2008, at 19:51:04
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on November 3, 2008, at 19:44:01
> Maxime the fact that you love to work and feel better when working? Phillipa
I hate my job and the anxiety it produces.
Posted by SLS on November 3, 2008, at 20:46:31
In reply to Geodon ain't Seroquel, posted by Maxime on November 3, 2008, at 16:55:08
> I've been on 40 mg of Geodon for almost a week now. It is meant to replace 200 mg of Seroquel.
For schizoid disorders, 40mg just ain't going to do it. Go to 80mg ASAP. I'll be curious if you have a lactation problem with this drug. I wouldn't expect so, but you never know. Geodon is the most antidepressant-like (on paper) of the APs. If lactation emerges as a side effect, and you haven't yet tried Abilify, I would recommend giving it a try.
Good luck.
- Scott
Posted by Maxime on November 3, 2008, at 20:50:40
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel » Maxime, posted by SLS on November 3, 2008, at 20:46:31
> > For schizoid disorders, 40mg just ain't going to do it. Go to 80mg ASAP. I'll be curious if you have a lactation problem with this drug. I wouldn't expect so, but you never know. Geodon is the most antidepressant-like (on paper) of the APs. If lactation emerges as a side effect, and you haven't yet tried Abilify, I would recommend giving it a try.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> - ScottThanks Scott. I am going to wait until I get the go ahead from psychiatrist to double the dosage. I think I might have been getting an anti-depressant effect from the 200 mg of Seroquel. I really hope I don't lactate on this med!
Thanks for your support. :)
Posted by llurpsienoodle on November 4, 2008, at 11:33:52
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel » SLS, posted by Maxime on November 3, 2008, at 20:50:40
Heya Maxime,
I found much more relief at 120-160mg. I never had any lactation problems.I hope things will get smoothed out soon. I hope the voices are saying nice things to you (although they never seem to, huh?)
-Ll
Posted by Maxime on November 4, 2008, at 17:59:23
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel » Maxime, posted by llurpsienoodle on November 4, 2008, at 11:33:52
> Heya Maxime,
> I found much more relief at 120-160mg. I never had any lactation problems.
>
> I hope things will get smoothed out soon. I hope the voices are saying nice things to you (although they never seem to, huh?)
>
> -LlNo, the voices aren't nice at all. I am having trouble telling what is real and what isn't. I couldn't get in touch with my psychiatrist today but I increased my dosage from 40 mg to 80 mg. I felt calmer today but of course the voices are still there.
I hope I feel better soon.
Posted by Zyprexa on November 5, 2008, at 1:44:38
In reply to Geodon ain't Seroquel, posted by Maxime on November 3, 2008, at 16:55:08
I've never taken seroquel, but imagine its similar to zyprexa, witch I take. I tried to switch to geodon too. What a mistake. I tried very high doses, 5x60mg. This is when I started hearing voices, and couldn't sleep well. It also gave me blurry vision at the high doses.
There's no replacing zyprexa for me. I tried them all, except for seroquel. Also got diabetes on geodon. The closest thing to zyprexa is perphenazine, which I also take as an add on to zyprexa. Yes perphenazine has no weight gain, which I assume is why you are trying geodon.
Posted by B2chica on November 5, 2008, at 11:58:56
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel » Maxime, posted by Zyprexa on November 5, 2008, at 1:44:38
hey zyprexa,
i had a similar reaction to higher doses of geodon. 80 didn't work so he doubled it to 160 and my depression became so horrible i can't believe i made it through without hospitalization. i even stopped working, and had constant suicidal visions.i too tried geodon to help with the weight.
unfortunately for me too zyprexa is key for me. (at least something works). my old stand-by. but weight gainer zyprexa.best wishes to you
b2c.
Posted by Maxime on November 5, 2008, at 15:28:06
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel » Zyprexa, posted by B2chica on November 5, 2008, at 11:58:56
Well luckily the 80 mg is helping my anxiety which mean eventually it will help with the voices. I think now I just have to be patient, but it's hard.
Staying on Seroquel isn't an option because I can't stay med compliant because of the weight gain. Zyprexa and Risperdal both make me gain weight and lactate. So I am really hoping things work out with this meds. I am trying to stay positive. :)
Posted by Jeroen on November 6, 2008, at 16:05:13
In reply to Geodon ain't Seroquel, posted by Maxime on November 3, 2008, at 16:55:08
lowest dose 40 mg should be helping you already, dont think 80 mg will help it will make your anxiety worser propably
Posted by Maxime on November 6, 2008, at 20:19:02
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel, posted by Jeroen on November 6, 2008, at 16:05:13
> lowest dose 40 mg should be helping you already, dont think 80 mg will help it will make your anxiety worser propably
The 80 mg helps my anxiety and I am starting to feel better. I am still hearing voices, but it's getting better.
Thanks!
Posted by ricker on November 6, 2008, at 20:28:06
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel » Jeroen, posted by Maxime on November 6, 2008, at 20:19:02
> The 80 mg helps my anxiety and I am starting to feel better. I am still hearing voices, but it's getting better.
Hi Maxime, glad to hear things are getting better! Hopefully you will continue to improve daily.
Best, Rick
Posted by Maxime on November 7, 2008, at 20:01:49
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel, posted by ricker on November 6, 2008, at 20:28:06
> Hi Maxime, glad to hear things are getting better! Hopefully you will continue to improve daily.
>
> Best, Rick
>Thank you Rick. :) I hope you find a mood stabiliser that works for you.
Posted by Maxime on November 9, 2008, at 16:48:33
In reply to Geodon ain't Seroquel, posted by Maxime on November 3, 2008, at 16:55:08
I think I am going to need more than 80 mg, but I am going to wait it out for bit. It really doesn't make me tired at all except for the first two days on a higher dose.
Posted by Maxime on November 9, 2008, at 18:56:11
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel, posted by Maxime on November 9, 2008, at 16:48:33
I just love posting to myself and having discussions with myself. It's so much f*ck*ng fun it's not funny!
Posted by Maxime on November 9, 2008, at 19:48:28
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel » Maxime, posted by llurpsienoodle on November 4, 2008, at 11:33:52
What were you on Geodon for? Did it make you more tired at a higher dosage. It doesn't make me sleepy and I would like it to. I'm at 80 mg now. Will stay at this dosage for another week and see how it goes.
Posted by llurpsienoodle on November 9, 2008, at 19:52:28
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel » llurpsienoodle, posted by Maxime on November 9, 2008, at 19:48:28
> What were you on Geodon for?
Post-traumatic stress flashbacks. (I also had depression and anxiety at the same time)
>Did it make you more tired at a higher dosage.
Yes it did. The sleepiness would peak about 2 hours after each dose. If I took more than 60mg at a time I was nearly comatose.
>It doesn't make me sleepy and I would like it to. I'm at 80 mg now. Will stay at this dosage for another week and see how it goes.
>
>I'm sorry that it's not sedating for you. This med kicked my butt, in terms of sedation. I nearly blacked out in public on multiple occasions. This, despite 200 mg of provigil (a stimulant)
funny how meds can affect us so differently.
I hope that you feel better soon
-Ll
Posted by Maxime on November 10, 2008, at 15:00:49
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel » Maxime, posted by llurpsienoodle on November 9, 2008, at 19:52:28
Thank you llurpsienoodle. Finding the right dosage is always hard. Will keep you posted.
Posted by Jeroen on November 10, 2008, at 15:02:25
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel » llurpsienoodle, posted by Maxime on November 10, 2008, at 15:00:49
maxime i hope you are doing well
you gave me somewhere hope.
but be aware of any muscle spasms with the geodon
Posted by maxime on November 15, 2008, at 12:16:12
In reply to Re: Geodon ain't Seroquel, posted by Jeroen on November 10, 2008, at 15:02:25
Thank you Jereon. I think I am starting to experience some muscle spams at a dose of 120 mg. I am not sure though. I will keep an eye on it and make sure it doesn't get worse.
Thanks again!
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