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Posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on September 3, 2008, at 22:53:00
In reply to Re: Today is NOT my day » Racer, posted by kattwoman on September 3, 2008, at 19:57:09
Hi...
Yep, I certainly don't know how you exactly feel, just as others don't. Everybody is quick to give advice, and nobody means no harm, they are trying their best. I've been through a few things that many people don't know about as well, and I'd like to share the story. Everybody has a unique story, though, and we really can't say one is worse then another, even though it may feel like it.
I had just spent the previous summer on a beautiful camping trip with my girlfriend, who I was going to marry, and our baby daughter. Life was just grand then. Then on a very cold, blustery January day, I found myself sitting in a car wondering if I should drive off of a pier, or just jump into the water of Lake Ontario. The sun was turning black, the world around me just dying more. That last same summer, I thought if there was a God or something, they where evil and merciless. Coming home from Toronto one evening, my girlfriend and baby daughter where in a car accident. I remember clear as a bell, the report sheet the police brought, that had "no survivors" written on it. The rest is such a blurry of pain, I've blocked a lot of it out. This is really hard for me talking about this, but I bring it up to maybe help connect in some way with people in pain.
Again, I am not saying one story is worse or bad then another, because pain is very universal. And, there is a heck of a lot of it. Only you can ultimately decide if you want to end your life or not. People can talk and talk and talk. The one thing that stopped me, was there where a few close people around me who loved me deeply. So, I grabbed onto that. I don't know if you can do that or not...maybe you do have the people, maybe not. Even just one person, as I have no friends anymore, just family. I am not going to say.."Don't do it because...."..as it doesn't matter what I think. My only other little trick was I used to (and still do) say that "..something will come up".
Again, it may or may not work for you. And if it doesn't, that is okay too.So, I hope the best for you, even though I realize the best often doesn't happen. If you can, find even the tinniest thing to clench onto. Your feelings are absolutely valid. If you want to chat some more in a non-judgmental environment, please keep posting, or you can babblemail me if you wish.
Take good care...
Jay
Posted by Phillipa on September 3, 2008, at 23:04:34
In reply to Re: Today is my day » kattwoman, posted by Marty on September 3, 2008, at 22:16:34
Kattwoman I've sent you babblemails also. And who is feeding your pets as if you're anything like me they are like children to you. And that means helpless if there is no one to care for them. And what about your children and grandchildren? I will babblemail you again. But I'd love to talk more. Love real name Jan
Posted by manic666 on September 4, 2008, at 3:18:09
In reply to Re: Today is my day, posted by Phillipa on September 3, 2008, at 23:04:34
ok here it is for you, you kill yourself you kill your kids. thats what you do. you think your kids grandkids,husband, will get over it. all there lives, your gonner leave them with that. they may all spiral into depression an only you can stop that.this is bad when i ovedosed the look on my kids faces the terror there dad the guy who brought them up kissed them loved them wanted to leave them. my wife crying what about me you selfish ba/tard what do i do without you.all caused like you by a crap doc who stopped my ativan 8 to 10 mg in on go. i to tried to get him in court an go srewed by my own lawyer.i came out hospital totally screwed an drinking a bottle of vodka or brandy a day to stay alive no one new not the wife the kids i could not get drunk thats how bad my brain was.hey but somthing must of happened cos im here. so think on kill yourself an kill your family. its that simple, xxx manic666
Posted by Abby Cunningham on September 4, 2008, at 11:01:17
In reply to Re: Today is my day, posted by manic666 on September 4, 2008, at 3:18:09
What really scares me is that you Manic and Katt were both yanked off a benzodiazepine which is a cruel, heartless thing for any doctor to do---where do they get their education????? It can do horrible things to your mind and body to be taken off a med. that is so addictive to some people!!! I am so sorry this happpened to you.
Katt there is hope....I wish I could talk with you in person. Babblemail me if you would like to talk.
> ok here it is for you, you kill yourself you kill your kids. thats what you do. you think your kids grandkids,husband, will get over it. all there lives, your gonner leave them with that. they may all spiral into depression an only you can stop that.this is bad when i ovedosed the look on my kids faces the terror there dad the guy who brought them up kissed them loved them wanted to leave them. my wife crying what about me you selfish ba/tard what do i do without you.all caused like you by a crap doc who stopped my ativan 8 to 10 mg in on go. i to tried to get him in court an go srewed by my own lawyer.i came out hospital totally screwed an drinking a bottle of vodka or brandy a day to stay alive no one new not the wife the kids i could not get drunk thats how bad my brain was.hey but somthing must of happened cos im here. so think on kill yourself an kill your family. its that simple, xxx manic666
Posted by muffled on September 4, 2008, at 16:08:20
In reply to Re: Today is my day, posted by Abby Cunningham on September 4, 2008, at 11:01:17
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20080719/msgs/850256.html
Posted by Marty on September 4, 2008, at 16:13:03
In reply to she ok, posted by muffled on September 4, 2008, at 16:08:20
There's knowledgeable people here that will help you figure out what's not working for you and what you really need. You will be amazed by how much some people here knows about those drugs... And BTW, if returning on the benzos is what you need to be happy .. that's an EASY thing to do when you know the How and Who. You don't even need money.
/\/\arty
Posted by Phillipa on September 4, 2008, at 23:35:25
In reply to Kattwoman: Comeback ......, posted by Marty on September 4, 2008, at 16:13:03
Kattwoman I would love to chat with you and hear the whole story. I hope you're okay. Love Phillipa
Posted by satsumas on September 6, 2008, at 13:14:46
In reply to Re: Kattwoman: Comeback ......, posted by Phillipa on September 4, 2008, at 23:35:25
Katt sorry to hear of your pains. I'm just posting so I can suggest two books that you may be interested in reading that I have found a great comfort both emotionally and intellectually in my own times of suicidal thinking:
"Dark night of the soul" by St. John of the Cross (16th century spanish mystic)
and (read first): C.S. Lewis' "The problem of pain"
Posted by Phillipa on September 6, 2008, at 20:01:04
In reply to Re: Kattwoman: Comeback ......, posted by satsumas on September 6, 2008, at 13:14:46
Kattwoman thinking of you as are so many others. Love Phillipa
Posted by Dr. Bob on September 7, 2008, at 15:00:56
In reply to Re: Kattwoman: Comeback ......, posted by satsumas on September 6, 2008, at 13:14:46
> "Dark night of the soul" by St. John of the Cross (16th century spanish mystic)
>
> and (read first): C.S. Lewis' "The problem of pain"I'd just like to plug the double double quotes feature at this site:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#amazon
The first time anyone refers to a book, movie, or music without using this option, I post this to try to make sure he or she at least knows about it. It's just an option, though, and doesn't *have* to be used. If people *choose* not to use it, I'd be interested why not, but I'd like that redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020918/msgs/7717.html
Thanks!
Bob
Posted by elanor roosevelt on September 12, 2008, at 11:27:47
In reply to Today is my day, posted by kattwoman on September 3, 2008, at 12:05:18
Posted by Phillipa on September 12, 2008, at 19:31:17
In reply to did Kattwoman ever come back? (nm), posted by elanor roosevelt on September 12, 2008, at 11:27:47
Not to my knowledge. Phillip wish she would though
Posted by Kattwoman on October 1, 2008, at 8:52:43
In reply to did Kattwoman ever come back? (nm), posted by elanor roosevelt on September 12, 2008, at 11:27:47
I am here.
I am at the cancer center now.
I thank all of you angels.For some reason I stumbled upon your sight that night.
Yes my plans were laid out perfectly.
I was so ready to go to my God above. The pain was so overwhelming and still is.
I have had God by my side since that night.
Somehow you reported it and the police would not have found me but I had left the room and was going to get a cappichino to drink with my deadly plan.
Two cars with lights pulled up. Asked if I was OK.
Not ignorant I said Sure I am fine. We talked for a while. They left still not knowing what room I was in.
For all they knew I could have followed through.
Although, he spoke to me and I found my self looking at pictures of my family in my car. It was so cool that night. I sat in my car for quite I while. Went back to my room and slept.
I remain in allot of pain. Pain that overwhelms me and then the fear starts.
I thank all of you and I am sorry to put you through my pain.
My life is so uncertain. I just take minute by minute and day by day.
Katt
Posted by Phillipa on October 1, 2008, at 10:35:59
In reply to Re: did Kattwoman ever come back? » elanor roosevelt, posted by Kattwoman on October 1, 2008, at 8:52:43
Katt oh sweetie is there anything I can do to help? I feel your pain. Can you let support you through your horrible ordeal? When you feel ready please let us or me know about your treatment. As manybe we can be your support team. I'm sorry the police weren't more aggressive. But you saw the light on your own. Remember I am here for you. Love and hugs Phillipa/ Jan
Posted by manic666 on October 1, 2008, at 12:43:13
In reply to Re: Today is my day, posted by manic666 on September 4, 2008, at 3:18:09
i hope i helped in a small way when i answered your post i felt for you baby, on your own in the hotel, thats why i mentioned your family , not to hurt you but to make you think enough to clear your mind, now you have another struggle its weird we jump from one thing straight into another thats our lives, Depression is a curse an now your ill, but remeber we are speicial not like the normals .im with you baby xxx manic666
Posted by Phillipa on October 1, 2008, at 16:51:37
In reply to Re: Today is my day an the day after, posted by manic666 on October 1, 2008, at 12:43:13
Katt so much support you wrote and didn't write back think you can. So sorry for the pain and the cancer . Again my heart goes out to you. Love Phillipa./ Jan
Posted by kattwoman on October 1, 2008, at 19:20:00
In reply to Re: Today is my day an the day after, posted by manic666 on October 1, 2008, at 12:43:13
Yes I am here just very tired. How do I get to the chat room
Posted by Phillipa on October 1, 2008, at 19:52:22
In reply to Re: Today is my day an the day after, posted by kattwoman on October 1, 2008, at 19:20:00
Katt never chatted before maybe someone can explain to you. Could you write back to me? Love Phillipa So sorry for the pain and tiredness.
Posted by Justherself54 on October 1, 2008, at 21:54:30
In reply to Re: Today is my day an the day after, posted by kattwoman on October 1, 2008, at 19:20:00
The chat room is called Babblechat. It will show how many are in chat. Most go into room 2. You'll find the people there very kind and caring. It's busiest during the evening. I hope this helps.
Registration | Start a new thread | Check for new posts | Archives | Search | Boards | FAQ | More information | Babblechat : 0
Posted by Phillipa on October 1, 2008, at 23:41:35
In reply to Re: Today is my day an the day after, posted by Justherself54 on October 1, 2008, at 21:54:30
Thanks never been there which thread are you on as Kattwoman can't find my new one. Kattwoman we're trying. Love Jan
Posted by Phillipa on October 1, 2008, at 23:45:08
In reply to Re: Today is my day an the day after, posted by kattwoman on October 1, 2008, at 19:20:00
Kattwoman keep posting here on this thread if you can't find mine this one is fine and keep e-mailing me okay? Love Jan
Posted by kattwoman on October 2, 2008, at 0:07:25
In reply to Re: Today is my day an the day after, posted by Justherself54 on October 1, 2008, at 21:54:30
> The chat room is called Babblechat.
I am here I just cannot find it to talk It will show how many are in chat. Most go into room 2. You'll find the people there very kind and caring. It's busiest during the evening. I hope this helps.
>
> Registration | Start a new thread | Check for new posts | Archives | Search | Boards | FAQ | More information | Babblechat : 0
Posted by Racer on October 2, 2008, at 13:53:04
In reply to Re: did Kattwoman ever come back? » elanor roosevelt, posted by Kattwoman on October 1, 2008, at 8:52:43
Hi, Kattwoman,
I'm very grateful you're still here. I am not great at showing my support, which I guess you ran into on my posts last month, but I was truly trying very hard to help you. My heart is in the right place, even if my words are often clumsy.
I'm glad you're still here. I wish you the very best.
Posted by Phillipa on October 2, 2008, at 16:29:46
In reply to Re: Today is my day an the day after, posted by kattwoman on October 2, 2008, at 0:07:25
Hi sweetie hear you found it and sorry my ISP went out last night let me know how it went heard a few were there. Hope you got some great support. Love Phillipa/Jan
Posted by elanor roosevelt on October 2, 2008, at 23:01:55
In reply to I'm grateful you're still here » Kattwoman, posted by Racer on October 2, 2008, at 13:53:04
Thanks for coming back.
Hang in there.
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