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Posted by stargazer2 on May 23, 2007, at 23:22:18
In reply to Re: I'm leaving soon/Jerry, posted by stargazer2 on May 23, 2007, at 22:53:29
Posted by stargazer2 on May 24, 2007, at 9:28:15
In reply to Good night Jerry,, not much use 2night...B good.. (nm), posted by stargazer2 on May 23, 2007, at 23:22:18
Posted by Squiggles on May 24, 2007, at 9:55:57
In reply to I'm leaving soon, posted by JerryPharmStudent on May 23, 2007, at 21:47:23
You definitely sound depressed. If you are
too shy to call 911, talk to a friend or
go to the Emergency or a near-by clinic by taxi, and explain that you are
in emotional distress. Your circumstances
will be more tolerable if you are treated.Good luck.
Squiggles
Posted by stargazer2 on May 24, 2007, at 10:08:42
In reply to Re: I'm leaving soon, posted by Squiggles on May 24, 2007, at 9:55:57
Just found this webpage with all kinds of info for someone who is suicidal including 800 #'s and email help even. Thank God for google.
http://suicidehotlines.com/national.html
I'msure they will counsel you and adsie you to call 911 if indicated.
SG2
Posted by Phillipa on May 24, 2007, at 11:13:56
In reply to National Suicide Hotline, 1-800-suicide, posted by stargazer2 on May 24, 2007, at 10:08:42
Hi Jerry are are you today? Are you feeling any better? As you can see a lot of your babble buddies care about you. I know it's hard as I am having trouble doing things too. Love Phillipa
Posted by kaleidoscope on May 24, 2007, at 14:46:32
In reply to Re: I'm leaving soon » JerryPharmStudent, posted by Phillipa on May 23, 2007, at 21:57:33
Jerry it's Ed, do you want to talk on MSN? There's a big difference RE time zones but if you babblemail me and tell me when you're around we should be able to chat.
Ed
Posted by Abby Cunningham on May 24, 2007, at 15:37:20
In reply to I'm leaving soon, posted by JerryPharmStudent on May 23, 2007, at 21:47:23
Jerry,
I care also and I hope you get help......remember what you are thinking of is permanent. you WILL feel better. God loves you! Please call the hotline or your clergy if you have one....I am praying for you.
Abby
Posted by stargazer2 on May 24, 2007, at 17:25:18
In reply to Re: I'm leaving soon, posted by Abby Cunningham on May 24, 2007, at 15:37:20
Posted by JerryPharmStudent on May 25, 2007, at 1:49:43
In reply to Jerry, can you check in and let us know you're OK? (nm), posted by stargazer2 on May 24, 2007, at 17:25:18
I'm here. Things are jsut so tough for me....I feel like I'm being so selfish asking for support when so many of you are going through the same kinds of things.
thank you all tho
Posted by Paulbwell on May 25, 2007, at 2:07:33
In reply to Re: Jerry, can you check in and let us know you're OK?, posted by JerryPharmStudent on May 25, 2007, at 1:49:43
> I'm here. Things are jsut so tough for me....I feel like I'm being so selfish asking for support when so many of you are going through the same kinds of things.
>
> thank you all thoYOU FELL SELFISH?-try going through Alcohol detox-UNDERMEDICATED-(Fuckin Docs)even 100mgs Valium, you would rather die or go insane.
Demon alcohol-Life or death.
Posted by JerryPharmStudent on May 25, 2007, at 2:44:44
In reply to Re: Jerry, can you check in and let us know you're OK?, posted by Paulbwell on May 25, 2007, at 2:07:33
> > I'm here. Things are jsut so tough for me....I feel like I'm being so selfish asking for support when so many of you are going through the same kinds of things.
> >
> > thank you all tho
>
> YOU FELL SELFISH?-try going through Alcohol detox-UNDERMEDICATED-(Fuckin Docs)even 100mgs Valium, you would rather die or go insane.
>
> Demon alcohol-Life or death.
>
>
sorry Paul.
Posted by Jedi on May 25, 2007, at 3:38:07
In reply to Re: Jerry, can you check in and let us know you're OK? » Paulbwell, posted by JerryPharmStudent on May 25, 2007, at 2:44:44
Jerry,
Just remember that for most of us it does not last forever. I've been where you are about three times but Nardil pulled me out. I haven't read enough of the threads to give you any advice on meds but there is usually something that works or ECT. If you're not seeing a P-DOC crawl into a clinic and tell them you need help. Sometimes just getting away from the everyday hassles helps.
Get Well,
Jedi
Posted by stargazer2 on May 25, 2007, at 4:28:31
In reply to Re: Jerry, can you check in and let us know you're OK?, posted by JerryPharmStudent on May 25, 2007, at 1:49:43
Jerry, thanks for checking in, that's so important when you are feeling so badly to let those who may worry about you, know you are OK. I was worried when there was no message for awhile with not knowing made me think the worse.
Depression can go up and down hourly and I'm glad you were able to ride the waves and keep afloat.
It will get better once you find something that can help, whether its AD's or just talking with others, going through or having gone through the same thing. We're here for you.I just got through a really bad period myself, down for over a year, unemployed and getting pretty desparate but now seeing some relief. I did do a few things for myself out of desparation. One, I told my doctor of 17 years I would not waste any more time since I just turned 50 and have seen more than half of my life wasted on this disease. Two, I sought out a research specialist and have him as a backup should I need really unconventional treatments such as Riluzole and Ketamine, which have shown some promise for really resistant cases.
Babble mail me anytime (going away this w/e) if you need more info on this treatment since I think you have tried just about everything else, right?
hang in...we're here most days helping out or getting help ourselves...It's a constant with depression...ongoing support and treatment.
Stargazer2
Posted by stargazer2 on May 25, 2007, at 4:43:03
In reply to Re: Jerry, can you check in and let us know you're OK?, posted by Paulbwell on May 25, 2007, at 2:07:33
Paul, I just wrote my message and it dissappeared...lets try again...
You have made the most difficult decision you could to go through the treatment and now the hard part is upon you.
Hang in there, it will get better and then you will have a whole new chance to get your life together. That can be the goal you can focus on to get you through this horrible time you are in. It will get easier but always gets harder first, to prove it will all be worth it. That's just how life is, the hardest things are the ones most worthwhile...
Keep a journal just to show yourself what you had to go through to get to the other side. It will be a reminder to never to go down that road again...Memory is always short sighted when it comes to really painful things like you are going through right now.
SG2
Posted by stargazer2 on May 25, 2007, at 6:38:49
In reply to Re: Jerry, can you check in and let us know you're OK?, posted by stargazer2 on May 25, 2007, at 4:43:03
Posted by Paulbwell on May 25, 2007, at 11:22:41
In reply to Re: Jerry, can you check in and let us know you're OK?, posted by stargazer2 on May 25, 2007, at 4:43:03
> Paul, I just wrote my message and it dissappeared...lets try again...
>
> You have made the most difficult decision you could to go through the treatment and now the hard part is upon you.
>
> Hang in there, it will get better and then you will have a whole new chance to get your life together. That can be the goal you can focus on to get you through this horrible time you are in. It will get easier but always gets harder first, to prove it will all be worth it. That's just how life is, the hardest things are the ones most worthwhile...
>
> Keep a journal just to show yourself what you had to go through to get to the other side. It will be a reminder to never to go down that road again...Memory is always short sighted when it comes to really painful things like you are going through right now.
>
> SG2
God bless you!!!-and may the good shine upon you!.Alcohol bought me down to the floor, and while in detox the first few days, i wanted to be dead or insane, anything to remove the torment.
I was given 100mgs valium (what a joke to a benzo tolerant person) and was calling my folks begging them to bring in my Risperdal, Xanax, to starve off the torment-they refused-and i let them know !!!!
I had never been more insane in my life, and i was in a medical facility, what a joke! i was grabbing at the med cabinet for the 10mg Valium bottles, and had to be restrained.
NEVER again-kill me first.
Again i thank you and God bless:)
Posted by olysi79 on May 25, 2007, at 12:55:10
In reply to Re: Jerry, can you check in and let us know you're OK?, posted by JerryPharmStudent on May 25, 2007, at 1:49:43
Jerry,
Please don;t feel bad for asking for support. Everyone here deserves it, including you :)
I hope you are feeling better nad enjoying some peace.
Chris
> I'm here. Things are jsut so tough for me....I feel like I'm being so selfish asking for support when so many of you are going through the same kinds of things.
>
> thank you all tho
Posted by Phillipa on May 25, 2007, at 19:28:07
In reply to Re: Jerry, can you check in and let us know you're OK? » JerryPharmStudent, posted by olysi79 on May 25, 2007, at 12:55:10
Jerry so glad you checked back in with us and we know you are okay you can do it I know you can. Love Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on May 25, 2007, at 19:30:11
In reply to Re: Jerry, can you check in and let us know you're OK?, posted by Paulbwell on May 25, 2007, at 2:07:33
Paul why didn't you write and let me know how tough things are for you too are you better now? And home? Love Phillipa
Posted by Paulbwell on May 26, 2007, at 22:15:58
In reply to Re: Paulwell » Paulbwell, posted by Phillipa on May 25, 2007, at 19:30:11
> Paul why didn't you write and let me know how tough things are for you too are you better now? And home? Love Phillipa
Thanks-have PM you
Posted by Phillipa on May 26, 2007, at 22:34:43
In reply to Re: Paulwell » Phillipa, posted by Paulbwell on May 26, 2007, at 22:15:58
Paulwell you're such a sweetie. Love Phillipa any way I can help?
Posted by Paulbwell on May 26, 2007, at 22:55:50
In reply to Re: Paulwell » Paulbwell, posted by Phillipa on May 26, 2007, at 22:34:43
> Paulwell you're such a sweetie. Love Phillipa any way I can help?
Thanks:)-mmm come over stay?, we life a 5 acre property with a house like the waltons had (bring your meds-hehe)and maybe we can do something
I'm sure you'd love New Zealand, it's 10 mins away from the shoreline and natureous.
??-maybe
Thanks
Posted by Denise190466 on May 27, 2007, at 13:31:20
In reply to Re: Jerry, can you check in and let us know you're OK?, posted by JerryPharmStudent on May 25, 2007, at 1:49:43
Jerry,
I can't really offer a lot of encourage or support right now as I don't feel so strong myself but I do relate. We're all in the same boat.
I hope you find something soon to make you feel better. Don't stop reaching out for help.
Denise
Posted by Phillipa on May 27, 2007, at 19:17:49
In reply to Re: Jerry, can you check in and let us know you're OK?, posted by Denise190466 on May 27, 2007, at 13:31:20
And I wrote him an e-mail last night Jerry please reply here or privately. Thanks Phillipa
Posted by crenshaw387 on May 28, 2007, at 11:52:14
In reply to I'm leaving soon, posted by JerryPharmStudent on May 23, 2007, at 21:47:23
> It's too painful to see my friends start to treat me differently now that I've told them about my depression. Apparently I'm not worth talking to anymore. I feel like my heart has been ripped out and am in excruciating pain. Just seems like things are not eveer going to be better for me.
>
> I can't hold on.....Lord knows I've tried for 15 years and my grip is slipping.
>
> Who knows where I'll end up....but anything has got to be better than this emptiness.
>
> Thank you all for being there for me.
>
>
Jerry... for me a big part of my depression was that i felt as though my close friends and family didnt care about me and didnt want to be around me or associate with me. i felt like they were trying to "push my buttons" or make me feel bad.... sometimes it felt like they were picking on me so that i wouldnt come around them anymore....the reality of the issue thouogh was that they were all trying their best to be supposrtive an helpful. it was my depression that was skewing my view of what they were doing and how they were treating me.....
the other factor is, people who have never had clinical depression simply dont understand the way you feel and simply think you need to be cheered up.....
i attribute 2 things to controlling clinical depression.
1. find a doctor you feel comfortable with and give them a fighting chance to help you. that means seeing them at least monthly for at least say 6 months before deciding they cant help...
2. talk to the people who are close to you. try to educate them about depression and how you feel when they interact with you. i printed out stuff from online about depression and gave them to those really close to me.
communication is the key element.if you dont communicate neither will they...
when people try to be there for someone and it isnt appreciated or helpful they usually dont wanna try againif you dont educate them they wont understand...
let them know what is helpful and what isnt. the more they know about the problem the better they can be at solving or helping it.
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