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Posted by elanor roosevelt on February 13, 2007, at 18:51:39
In reply to Re: just started tianeptine » elanor roosevelt, posted by liliths on February 13, 2007, at 13:18:16
lilths
i got a script for paxil bc i was struggling with the decision to go forward with the tianeptine (i had already stopped the lexapro)
and i will continue to get scripts for paxil and fake it bc i need my pdoc and i think he will fire me if he knows about the tianeptine
like being a teenager again -- hiding baggies of barbituates
life is strange
Posted by liliths on February 14, 2007, at 8:13:20
In reply to little white lies, posted by elanor roosevelt on February 13, 2007, at 18:51:39
hi elanor
I totally understand. Though I 'mentioned' being interested in tianeptine to my pdoc, he didn't respond and I saw no reason to tell him I was planning on ordering it. I don't think he'd take kindly to what he'd perceive as my prescribing for myself. He's already shown himself to quite territorial about just who has the power and control LOL
I probably won't mention I went off the wellbutrin. Of course, I'm not totally sure whether I'll stay off it either. I've been taking such a low dose, 100mg in the afternoon, that it might be a good thing to continue.
But it's highly unlikely I'll tell my pdoc I started the tianeptine though I may bring in an article about it to further test his response at my next appointment. IF I can get him to consider it a good idea on his own, then I can pretend to just start it
yes, it IS like being a kid again. well, when you think about it, we were all probably self-medicating anyway. I was a speed freak when I was in high school. Think it had anything to do with having ADD and depression? LOL
hope you're doing well on the adderral/tianeptine/xanax combo. I found 1mg klonopin works well with my focalin in the morning.
I hope you're doing better & better every day
Happy Valentine's Day! :)
namaste,
lilith> lilths
> i got a script for paxil bc i was struggling with the decision to go forward with the tianeptine (i had already stopped the lexapro)
> and i will continue to get scripts for paxil and fake it bc i need my pdoc and i think he will fire me if he knows about the tianeptine
> like being a teenager again -- hiding baggies of barbituates
> life is strange
>
Posted by Jimmyboy on February 14, 2007, at 14:21:57
In reply to Re: Oh no, Accutane x Mood, posted by elanor roosevelt on February 13, 2007, at 11:18:25
I have also noticed that my skin has dried out quite noticeably the last few weeks since I started taking Tianeptine.. is this a common side effect?
JB
Posted by ralphrost on February 14, 2007, at 19:00:56
In reply to Re: just started tianeptine, posted by Declan on February 10, 2007, at 1:28:30
It's two weeks on Tianeptine (2 x 12,5 mg).
Quite difficult to sleep early and wake early as well. I end up sleeping at 2 or 3 am and waking up around 11 am. When I wake up, I have some strong drowsiness that lasts about an hour. Then I start getting anxious.
Today was very tough... Quite dysphoric :|
The initial (mild) benefits are gone, but I'm hopeful and don't intend to give up soon, though...
Thought about raising it to 3x day, dunno.
Hope everybody is doing fine
Best wishes,
Ralph
Posted by ralphrost on February 14, 2007, at 19:02:59
In reply to Tianeptine - skin drying out » elanor roosevelt, posted by Jimmyboy on February 14, 2007, at 14:21:57
Weird for me, because I had the opposite effect.
My skin got more oily, although I'm not really stable on (stablon? ;) anything the last days...
Hope you're doing well
Ralph
Posted by elanor roosevelt on February 14, 2007, at 23:41:10
In reply to Re: Tianeptine - skin drying out, posted by ralphrost on February 14, 2007, at 19:02:59
i woke up feeling okay
what a pleasure
Posted by stargazer on February 15, 2007, at 7:52:27
In reply to Tianeptine day 6, posted by elanor roosevelt on February 14, 2007, at 23:41:10
Where do you get his med from, a pharmacy? Is it available in the US? I have read some about it and wanted to possibly try it down the road if it is something I can find out more about.
Do you take it with other meds or alone?
What type of depression is it best used for?
Stargazer
Posted by Jimmyboy on February 15, 2007, at 8:47:01
In reply to Tianeptine day 6, posted by elanor roosevelt on February 14, 2007, at 23:41:10
Thats great news! I hope it continues to be effective for you!
JB
Posted by elanor roosevelt on February 15, 2007, at 23:18:39
In reply to Where do you get Tianeptine?, posted by stargazer on February 15, 2007, at 7:52:27
i ordered the Tianeptine from India
have you read articles online about tianeptine?
ther is a lot of information out there and lots here offered by some of the wise ones
Posted by Jimmyboy on February 16, 2007, at 14:11:15
In reply to Re: Where do you get Tianeptine?, posted by elanor roosevelt on February 15, 2007, at 23:18:39
I also ordered from India. for almost 5 months worth it was $135. It came it foil stips that has the logo of the drug and the name of the manufacturer.
JB
Posted by itsme2003 on February 20, 2007, at 22:37:45
In reply to Re: Where do you get Tianeptine?, posted by Jimmyboy on February 16, 2007, at 14:11:15
I get mine from India as well. I assume that we are all talking about the place that requires payment via Western Union instead of accepting credit cards.
Posted by dav on March 8, 2007, at 13:06:25
In reply to Tianeptine - two weeks, posted by ralphrost on February 14, 2007, at 19:00:56
How are you getting on with the tianeptine
> It's two weeks on Tianeptine (2 x 12,5 mg).
>
> Quite difficult to sleep early and wake early as well. I end up sleeping at 2 or 3 am and waking up around 11 am. When I wake up, I have some strong drowsiness that lasts about an hour. Then I start getting anxious.
>
> Today was very tough... Quite dysphoric :|
>
> The initial (mild) benefits are gone, but I'm hopeful and don't intend to give up soon, though...
>
> Thought about raising it to 3x day, dunno.
>
> Hope everybody is doing fine
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ralph
Posted by dav on March 8, 2007, at 13:08:32
In reply to Re: Tianeptine - two weeks, posted by dav on March 8, 2007, at 13:06:25
I've been on it for one week along with my usual mirtazapine. I've had similar experiences of faituge and similar sleeping issues so far along with a lower mood then usual.
> How are you getting on with the tianeptine
>
> > It's two weeks on Tianeptine (2 x 12,5 mg).
> >
> > Quite difficult to sleep early and wake early as well. I end up sleeping at 2 or 3 am and waking up around 11 am. When I wake up, I have some strong drowsiness that lasts about an hour. Then I start getting anxious.
> >
> > Today was very tough... Quite dysphoric :|
> >
> > The initial (mild) benefits are gone, but I'm hopeful and don't intend to give up soon, though...
> >
> > Thought about raising it to 3x day, dunno.
> >
> > Hope everybody is doing fine
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Ralph
>
>
Posted by metalflipflop on March 8, 2007, at 16:56:28
In reply to Re: Where do you get Tianeptine?, posted by itsme2003 on February 20, 2007, at 22:37:45
Hi everyone,
I was just wondering if those of you who order tianeptine from overseas could describe for me what your pills look like--I ordered some, Serdia Pharmaceuticals brand, and have been taking it for 4 days now. I definitely don't think it's inert, as I have noticed some good effects for anxiety already, though my mood remains low. I'm just checking on the pills though, b/c after years of taking American drugs with lots of stamps, scoring, etc., my tianeptine looks so...plain? Like a more elliptical white tic-tac, nothing printed on it. The package looks legit, with foil blister-pack of 20 pills each and a 2009 expiration, but I'm just curious about what others have received.
Thanks for reading!
Liz
P.S. - I am taking 2 pills a day now and will go up to 3 soon, as I haven't noticed many side effects.> I get mine from India as well. I assume that we are all talking about the place that requires payment via Western Union instead of accepting credit cards.
Posted by ralphrost on March 8, 2007, at 19:09:13
In reply to Re: Tianeptine - two weeks, posted by dav on March 8, 2007, at 13:08:32
Hi dav,
it's been about 40 days on Tianeptine, and about two weeks ago I rose to 3x 12,5mg a day.
It's about one week I'm feeling much more alert. The fatigue and excessive sleepiness are gone. My mind is much clearer, great for work.
Anyway I've been experiencing some anxiety and higher emotional sensitivity. This is the bad part of the story. Also, kinda down anyway, plus no humor sense.
No big side effects, except for some mild constipation (I'm trying prunes and a better nutrition to correct that).
My next step is to try to augment it with something that could take care of the anxiety and improve mood.
Hope you're well,
Ralph
> I've been on it for one week along with my usual mirtazapine. I've had similar experiences of faituge and similar sleeping issues so far along with a lower mood then usual.
>
> > How are you getting on with the tianeptine
> >
> > > It's two weeks on Tianeptine (2 x 12,5 mg).
> > >
> > > Quite difficult to sleep early and wake early as well. I end up sleeping at 2 or 3 am and waking up around 11 am. When I wake up, I have some strong drowsiness that lasts about an hour. Then I start getting anxious.
> > >
> > > Today was very tough... Quite dysphoric :|
> > >
> > > The initial (mild) benefits are gone, but I'm hopeful and don't intend to give up soon, though...
> > >
> > > Thought about raising it to 3x day, dunno.
> > >
> > > Hope everybody is doing fine
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Ralph
> >
> >
>
>
Posted by ralphrost on March 8, 2007, at 19:14:19
In reply to Re: Tianeptine? QUESTION FOR BUYERS » itsme2003, posted by metalflipflop on March 8, 2007, at 16:56:28
Hello,
as I live in Brazil, I don't have to import it. My pills are manufactured in France by Servier (patent holder) and look pretty much like you described. Elliptical white tictacs, nothing printed on them.
Sometimes I wish they came with some cocain or something, not all original I mean. Just a joke.
Best wishes,
Ralph
> Hi everyone,
> I was just wondering if those of you who order tianeptine from overseas could describe for me what your pills look like--I ordered some, Serdia Pharmaceuticals brand, and have been taking it for 4 days now. I definitely don't think it's inert, as I have noticed some good effects for anxiety already, though my mood remains low. I'm just checking on the pills though, b/c after years of taking American drugs with lots of stamps, scoring, etc., my tianeptine looks so...plain? Like a more elliptical white tic-tac, nothing printed on it. The package looks legit, with foil blister-pack of 20 pills each and a 2009 expiration, but I'm just curious about what others have received.
> Thanks for reading!
> Liz
> P.S. - I am taking 2 pills a day now and will go up to 3 soon, as I haven't noticed many side effects.
>
> > I get mine from India as well. I assume that we are all talking about the place that requires payment via Western Union instead of accepting credit cards.
>
>
Posted by metalflipflop on March 8, 2007, at 21:04:43
In reply to Re: Tianeptine? QUESTION FOR BUYERS, posted by ralphrost on March 8, 2007, at 19:14:19
^My pills are manufactured in France by Servier (patent holder) and look pretty much like you described. Elliptical white tictacs, nothing printed on them.
^^^^^^^^^^
Oh, good! That makes me feel better. Yeah, Serdia in India is like a subsidiary of Servier, or something like that--their Indian branch, ha. This is my first foray into online pharmaceuticals, but so far it seems to be working out pretty well.
FYI (and maybe TMI), the tianeptine is making me a little constipated too. Hopefully the body adapts and this, ahem, passes.
Thanks for responding,
Liz
Posted by dav on March 9, 2007, at 13:54:30
In reply to Re: Tianeptine - two weeks, posted by ralphrost on March 8, 2007, at 19:09:13
I've been on 3x12.5mg for 9 or 10 days now, i started on 2 a day for 3 days before that and the fatigue and lower mood just today is starting to improve and i think i have better recall and memory and my mind feels a little clearer. How is it great for work, do you mean your concentration started to improve to?
> Hi dav,
>
> it's been about 40 days on Tianeptine, and about two weeks ago I rose to 3x 12,5mg a day.
>
> It's about one week I'm feeling much more alert. The fatigue and excessive sleepiness are gone. My mind is much clearer, great for work.
>
> Anyway I've been experiencing some anxiety and higher emotional sensitivity. This is the bad part of the story. Also, kinda down anyway, plus no humor sense.
>
> No big side effects, except for some mild constipation (I'm trying prunes and a better nutrition to correct that).
>
> My next step is to try to augment it with something that could take care of the anxiety and improve mood.
>
> Hope you're well,
>
> Ralph
>
> > I've been on it for one week along with my usual mirtazapine. I've had similar experiences of faituge and similar sleeping issues so far along with a lower mood then usual.
> >
> > > How are you getting on with the tianeptine
> > >
> > > > It's two weeks on Tianeptine (2 x 12,5 mg).
> > > >
> > > > Quite difficult to sleep early and wake early as well. I end up sleeping at 2 or 3 am and waking up around 11 am. When I wake up, I have some strong drowsiness that lasts about an hour. Then I start getting anxious.
> > > >
> > > > Today was very tough... Quite dysphoric :|
> > > >
> > > > The initial (mild) benefits are gone, but I'm hopeful and don't intend to give up soon, though...
> > > >
> > > > Thought about raising it to 3x day, dunno.
> > > >
> > > > Hope everybody is doing fine
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes,
> > > >
> > > > Ralph
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Posted by dav on March 9, 2007, at 13:57:38
In reply to Re: Tianeptine - two weeks, posted by dav on March 9, 2007, at 13:54:30
The anxiety and mood has been less of an issue for me maybe because i am also taking mirtazapine 45mg and a low dose of quetiapine 25mg for sleep. Also i think i know what you mean about the humour, less spontaneous than usual.
> I've been on 3x12.5mg for 9 or 10 days now, i started on 2 a day for 3 days before that and the fatigue and lower mood just today is starting to improve and i think i have better recall and memory and my mind feels a little clearer. How is it great for work, do you mean your concentration started to improve to?
>
> > Hi dav,
> >
> > it's been about 40 days on Tianeptine, and about two weeks ago I rose to 3x 12,5mg a day.
> >
> > It's about one week I'm feeling much more alert. The fatigue and excessive sleepiness are gone. My mind is much clearer, great for work.
> >
> > Anyway I've been experiencing some anxiety and higher emotional sensitivity. This is the bad part of the story. Also, kinda down anyway, plus no humor sense.
> >
> > No big side effects, except for some mild constipation (I'm trying prunes and a better nutrition to correct that).
> >
> > My next step is to try to augment it with something that could take care of the anxiety and improve mood.
> >
> > Hope you're well,
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> > > I've been on it for one week along with my usual mirtazapine. I've had similar experiences of faituge and similar sleeping issues so far along with a lower mood then usual.
> > >
> > > > How are you getting on with the tianeptine
> > > >
> > > > > It's two weeks on Tianeptine (2 x 12,5 mg).
> > > > >
> > > > > Quite difficult to sleep early and wake early as well. I end up sleeping at 2 or 3 am and waking up around 11 am. When I wake up, I have some strong drowsiness that lasts about an hour. Then I start getting anxious.
> > > > >
> > > > > Today was very tough... Quite dysphoric :|
> > > > >
> > > > > The initial (mild) benefits are gone, but I'm hopeful and don't intend to give up soon, though...
> > > > >
> > > > > Thought about raising it to 3x day, dunno.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope everybody is doing fine
> > > > >
> > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > >
> > > > > Ralph
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Posted by Jimmyboy on March 9, 2007, at 15:45:44
In reply to Re: Tianeptine - two weeks, posted by dav on March 9, 2007, at 13:57:38
I have had success with Tianeptine,it did take awhile to work for me, so I would stick it out for awhile. its been about 6 or 7 weeks for me.. I noticed a huge improvement by augmenting it with a small amount of SAM-e ( 200 mg twice a day) . i would say that I am in in complete remission , which is a damn miracle. But I am so thankful..
JB
Posted by dav on March 10, 2007, at 17:53:41
In reply to Re: Tianeptine - two weeks, posted by Jimmyboy on March 9, 2007, at 15:45:44
What dose are you taking, I noticed once i felt much better when i accidently took two tablets in the evening, making 4 tabs (good motivation), but I'll give the 3 tabs daily a chance and maybe add some low dose sam-e like you. My main problem is concentration.
> I have had success with Tianeptine,it did take awhile to work for me, so I would stick it out for awhile. its been about 6 or 7 weeks for me.. I noticed a huge improvement by augmenting it with a small amount of SAM-e ( 200 mg twice a day) . i would say that I am in in complete remission , which is a damn miracle. But I am so thankful..
>
>
> JB
Posted by Declan on March 10, 2007, at 21:32:06
In reply to Re: Tianeptine - two weeks, posted by dav on March 10, 2007, at 17:53:41
I took 400mg SAMe with tianeptine (3/d) this morning, and to my surprise it has worked out well.
I was able to do stuff.Parnate with tianeptine was not good and I spent the day in bed.
Posted by elanor roosevelt on March 11, 2007, at 21:33:31
In reply to SAMe and Tianeptine, posted by Declan on March 10, 2007, at 21:32:06
I just stopped the Tianeptine to see which, that or the Adderall had shortened my already too short fuse. I was getting argumentive and them teary at times. It was the Tianeptine for sure. I can't do that for 6 or 7 weeks waiting for an improvement.
I am doing well on the Adderall in many ways and I can laugh at times. But the depression is lurking.
Thinking about trying the Tianeptine at night. Gonna give it a bit of thought for a while. Need to get on with things besides figuring out my f*cking meds. Good luck to all.
Posted by Jimmyboy on March 13, 2007, at 15:07:45
In reply to Re: Tianeptine - two weeks, posted by dav on March 10, 2007, at 17:53:41
yeah , I think the SAM-e give a little energy/ motivation.. at the right dose its a good combo, but if you add too much SAM then you run the risk of irritability and possible anxiety.. Just see what works for you.
Good luck
JB
Posted by liliths on March 13, 2007, at 16:29:28
In reply to Tianeptine, posted by elanor roosevelt on March 11, 2007, at 21:33:31
hi elanor
I started to write you when I first read this but then saw you were sick of thinking about your meds so I held off... but I decided I did want to tell you I seemed to have had a very similar experience with the tianeptine and I didn't realize that was probably causing it until I read your post.
Like you I've noticed I've become REALLY easily angered or so overwhelmed I'll start crying. I was wondering what was doing it and never suspected the tianpetine considering what everyone else has reported. But I'm already so damn crazy I didn't appreciate suddenly losing it in public!!
anyway, just wanted you to know I seemed to have had the same reaction to the drug.
And yes, the depression is ever present!
be well :)
namaste,
lilith> I just stopped the Tianeptine to see which, that or the Adderall had shortened my already too short fuse. I was getting argumentive and them teary at times. It was the Tianeptine for sure. I can't do that for 6 or 7 weeks waiting for an improvement.
> I am doing well on the Adderall in many ways and I can laugh at times. But the depression is lurking.
> Thinking about trying the Tianeptine at night. Gonna give it a bit of thought for a while. Need to get on with things besides figuring out my f*cking meds. Good luck to all.
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