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Posted by Sebastian on January 13, 2007, at 15:46:37
Taking full dose zyprexa for a long time depresses me. Taking a lower dose for a while depresses me. what does this mean. Medication depression, lack of med depression? They are different types of depression. The first few days of a med change like these are very nice, and energise me, and make me happyer than usual.
Is it posible to get depressed from taking meds?
Posted by stargazer on January 13, 2007, at 16:57:42
In reply to med depression, posted by Sebastian on January 13, 2007, at 15:46:37
It's possible to get depressed or stay depressed when the meds you are taking do not do anything or when they make you feel worse. It;s very frustrating to say the least...SG
Posted by laima on January 13, 2007, at 17:39:31
In reply to med depression, posted by Sebastian on January 13, 2007, at 15:46:37
The wrong med, even the wrong antidepressent, can induce worse depression. It happened to me with a med or two that didn't agree with me.
Posted by blueberry1 on January 13, 2007, at 18:33:17
In reply to med depression, posted by Sebastian on January 13, 2007, at 15:46:37
Many antidepressant or mood elevating drugs can induce or worsen depression. I have had it happen too many times that I am now scared to try anything new.
On the label with psychiatric drugs it warns of the risk of suicidal tendencies when starting a drug or increasing the dose. I think that risk is underestimated. Many suicides occured while the patient was on a medication. But then it is brushed off and blamed on the depression where the medication wasn't working, where maybe in fact the medication was at fault for making it worse. The problem I think is that the patient is so accustomed to being so depressed that when the drug is actually making it worse it is subtle and hard to tell from the original depression. It gets worse and it gets out of hand and is brushed off as side effects. Then the patient is dead or in the hospital and it's too late.
Posted by Phillipa on January 13, 2007, at 19:37:42
In reply to Re: med depression, posted by blueberry1 on January 13, 2007, at 18:33:17
Agree with the above posts but Sebastian I thought zyprexa was a med you loved? Love Phillipa
Posted by Sebastian on January 14, 2007, at 15:48:26
In reply to Re: med depression » blueberry1, posted by Phillipa on January 13, 2007, at 19:37:42
I do love it. Just not that much. I still feel better on zyprexa than off it. I'm just trying to lower dose for less tiredness, and the real reason is that its giving me diabetes. My doc says I'm getting it under control.
Posted by med_empowered on January 14, 2007, at 20:03:50
In reply to Re: med depression, posted by Sebastian on January 14, 2007, at 15:48:26
antipsychotics can change your mood, for better or for worse. With the old ones, there was a definite tendency towards drug-induced depression. They make the negative symptoms of schizophrenia worse and can cycle bipolars into depression (and keep them there). The "atypicals" are sometimes helpful for depression, but I've had neuroleptic-induced dysphoria (apathy, sadness...kind of like depression, only intense and clearly drug-induced) from the atypicals. I think shrinks may pay attention to this sometime in the future, maybe after some more atypicals go generic.
You may want to try cutting the zyprexa dose. Are you taking anything else with the zyprexa? Drug-drug interactions complicate the picture; depending on what you're taking, that could be part of the problem. Have you tried Provigil? If you really think zyprexa is **the** med for you, then adding Provigil (maybe another stim) to the combo might counteract some of the drug-induced lethargy while maintaining your results.Good luck!
Posted by blueberry1 on January 15, 2007, at 5:59:18
In reply to Re: med depression, posted by med_empowered on January 14, 2007, at 20:03:50
Provigil. Excellent suggestion med_empowered.
I took its parent adrafinil with zyprexa years ago and it was the ingredient that made everything else work the best.
Posted by Sebastian on January 17, 2007, at 17:46:13
In reply to Re: med depression, posted by med_empowered on January 14, 2007, at 20:03:50
The problem is not energy, its diabeties. Which I now have thanks to zyprexa. What is the solution to that? My doctor wants me off of it, and on to Abilify. So now I take 5mg zyprexa, 7.5mg abilify, 300mg wellbutrin sr(genaric), celexa (genaric). For the most of the last 10 years I took 10mg zyprexa. Now at 5mg my blood sugar is much better. Almost good. From what I hear correct me if I'm wrong, is that diabetes meds will lower blood sugar but shorten your life greatly and give heart problems.
I'm less depressed now, more energized, sleep a lot less. But realy energized, little harder to concentrate, my mind wanders, and I think fast, worry more, .To be continued.
Posted by Sebastian on January 17, 2007, at 17:48:53
In reply to Re: med depression » med_empowered, posted by blueberry1 on January 15, 2007, at 5:59:18
Main problem is I can't calm down. Got any solutions to that, my doc says he can't give me anything for that.
Posted by Phillipa on January 17, 2007, at 19:26:47
In reply to Re: med depression, posted by Sebastian on January 17, 2007, at 17:48:53
Sebastian no the meds won't shorten your life not taking them and not following the diet will though. Diabetes affects every body organ. I highly recommend that you get your weight if it's not normal and excercise is very important. Too bad he won't give you a benzo but I know why. Love Phillipa
Posted by Sebastian on January 18, 2007, at 12:05:29
In reply to Re: med depression » Sebastian, posted by Phillipa on January 17, 2007, at 19:26:47
Posted by Phillipa on January 18, 2007, at 19:02:13
In reply to Re: why won't he give me a benzo??? (nm) » Phillipa, posted by Sebastian on January 18, 2007, at 12:05:29
Do you want me to post it here or e-mail you? Love Phillipa
Posted by Sebastian on January 20, 2007, at 17:56:21
In reply to Re: why won't he give me a benzo??? » Sebastian, posted by Phillipa on January 18, 2007, at 19:02:13
E-mail me.
Posted by Phillipa on January 20, 2007, at 19:23:28
In reply to Re: why won't he give me a benzo??? » Sebastian, posted by Phillipa on January 18, 2007, at 19:02:13
Sebastian will do it now. Love Phillipa
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