![[dr. bob]](/dr-bob-sm.gif)
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.orgShown: posts 1 to 25 of 34. This is the beginning of the thread.
Posted by curtm on May 11, 2006, at 10:10:00
I finally have a question about meds! Hooray!
I have researched meds online and I found out about this drug called Androcur. The info whas very vague. Does anyone know what it is, how it works, and any side effects? What I should tell my pdoc to get a rx? I need to get a handle on my sex addiction.)
I should add that I am NOT a pedophile. That makes me sick and angry.
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 11, 2006, at 13:32:35
In reply to Anyone know about Androcur?, posted by curtm on May 11, 2006, at 8:32:35
> I finally have a question about meds! Hooray!
>
> I have researched meds online and I found out about this drug called Androcur. The info whas very vague. Does anyone know what it is, how it works, and any side effects? What I should tell my pdoc to get a rx? I need to get a handle on my sex addiction.)
>
> I should add that I am NOT a pedophile. That makes me sick and angry.I think you're lucky, curt. It's not in the FDA database. Not approved, seems like.
What a horrible drug. Its effects are profound, curt. http://www.rxmed.com/b.main/b2.pharmaceutical/b2.1.monographs/CPS-%20Monographs/CPS-%20(General%20Monographs-%20A)/ANDROCUR.html
There is a specific warning against drinking.
Lar
Posted by ed_uk on May 11, 2006, at 14:27:18
In reply to Anyone know about Androcur?, posted by curtm on May 11, 2006, at 8:32:35
Hi Curt
Cyproterone (Cyprostat, Androcur) is a toxic drug which is best reserved for metastatic prostate cancer. Trust me on this one, you don't want to take it. Cyproterone is not available in the US, which is odd, because it is a useful treatment for advanced prostate cancer.
Cyproterone is a powerful progestin and anti-androgen. It is used by people undergoing gender reassignment to enhance the feminising effects of estrogens.
Taking cyproterone will cause erectile impotence, infertility and fatigue. Testicular shrinkadge may occur. It has many other side effects as well.
Take care
Ed
Posted by curtm on May 11, 2006, at 14:39:23
In reply to Re: Anyone know about Androcur? » curtm, posted by ed_uk on May 11, 2006, at 14:27:18
ARE THERE ANY OTHER ANTI-ANDROGENIC MEDS?
(oops caps on)
Posted by B2chica on May 11, 2006, at 15:01:36
In reply to Re: Anyone know about Androcur?, posted by curtm on May 11, 2006, at 14:39:23
have you talked to your doc about and anti-depressant? a large number of these cause sexual dysfunction...i'm guessing you would like to decrease your libido?
that drug you mentioned sounds a little scary for what you are wanting...would not advise it. please be careful.
Posted by bassman on May 11, 2006, at 17:00:33
In reply to Re: Anyone know about Androcur? » curtm, posted by B2chica on May 11, 2006, at 15:01:36
That's right-40 mg of Paxil and you won't care if you never have sex again.
Posted by ed_uk on May 11, 2006, at 17:07:04
In reply to Re: Anyone know about Androcur?, posted by curtm on May 11, 2006, at 14:39:23
Hi Curt
All anti-androgens can cause serious side effects, I wouldn't recommend them.
SSRIs do indeed tend to lower libido, but I wouldn't recommend taking an SSRI unless you suffer from major depression and/or moderate/severe anxiety as well as having a very high libido!
Ed
Posted by curtm on May 11, 2006, at 17:59:25
In reply to Re: Anyone know about Androcur? » curtm, posted by ed_uk on May 11, 2006, at 17:07:04
>> SSRIs do indeed tend to lower libido, but I wouldn't recommend taking an SSRI unless you suffer from major depression and/or moderate/severe anxiety as well as having a very high libido!
I do have moderate anxiety more than deep depression (bipolar) and a very high, bothersome libido. I still need a little more mood stabilizing than just Lamictal. So what about Paxil with Lamictal? Is this the magic elixir?
Posted by Phillipa on May 11, 2006, at 18:48:20
In reply to Re: Anyone know about Androcur? » ed_uk, posted by curtm on May 11, 2006, at 17:59:25
Have you discussed your problem with your pdoc? And that med sounds very dangerous and not one to take unless you have cancer. Love Phillipa
Posted by Emily Elizabeth on May 11, 2006, at 23:36:35
In reply to Re: Anyone know about Androcur? » ed_uk, posted by curtm on May 11, 2006, at 17:59:25
Could the excessive sex drive be a symptom of poorly controlled bipolar stuff? Does it increase when your other manic symptoms increase? Figuring that out might provide some clue abt the proper course of action to treat it.
Best,
EE
Posted by Caedmon on May 12, 2006, at 0:30:09
In reply to Re: Anyone know about Androcur?, posted by Emily Elizabeth on May 11, 2006, at 23:36:35
Maybe this is extreme - but probably not so extreme - what about risperidone? It might help with impulse control as well as diminish your sex drive.
- C
Posted by curtm on May 12, 2006, at 10:41:22
In reply to Re: Anyone know about Androcur?, posted by Emily Elizabeth on May 11, 2006, at 23:36:35
When we do make l***, my mood is very (I mean VERY) complacently Dr. Jeckyl-like for about a week, but that's pushing it. I don't feel any triggers at all during this period.
Then I start feeling the Mr. Hyde mood starting to creep back. At two weeks, I start getting very irritable and making inderect remarks making l*** again. She says, "We just did did not long ago."
By three weeks time, I have become arrogant and more direct about it. By four weeks, her cycle has come, so there's another week. By five weeks I quit making comments and just keep it inside, still frustrated. At six weeks frustration start to subside. At seven weeks it doesn't bother me anymore.
BUT about eight weeks I start trying to ignore her that way because I don't want to go through the cycle again. I'm afraid to make l*** because it happens EVERY time!
It's NOT about how often we make l***, I just want the mood cycle to stop! That is why I am so concerned about it. Pleae help.
Posted by ed_uk on May 12, 2006, at 12:45:59
In reply to The cycle goes like this- » Emily Elizabeth, posted by curtm on May 12, 2006, at 10:41:22
Hi Curt
It doesn't sound like your sex drive is unusually high. Suppressing your libido with drugs probably wouldn't be helpful.
Ed
Posted by bassman on May 12, 2006, at 13:09:37
In reply to The cycle goes like this- » Emily Elizabeth, posted by curtm on May 12, 2006, at 10:41:22
As the expression goes, you aren't oversexed, you are underloved-and I'll bet, damn angry/hurt/feeling-unloved about it. Boy, have I ever been in your boots. You need not take a drug for the situation, but maybe you should consider taking a powder!:>} Sorry, but I know first-hand how you feel. My advice is that you need to talk to lady friend and find out what the story is and whether the two of you can come to an agreeable compromise or if there is more to the situation from her perspective...best of luck.
bm
Posted by curtm on May 12, 2006, at 13:37:55
In reply to Re: The cycle goes like this-, posted by bassman on May 12, 2006, at 13:09:37
You ARE correct in most of the sense, but there is still the underlyinig issue of bipolar mood swinging that comes into play. I think that has a major influence. So I am trying to kill two birds with one stone. I don't know. Never mind..
Posted by Declan on May 12, 2006, at 14:33:02
In reply to Right mood, wrong time » bassman, posted by curtm on May 12, 2006, at 13:37:55
In this world it's asking a lot to expect 2 people to live together and satisfy each other sexually. You sound quite normally interested in sex and quite normally frustrated. Tolstoy was probably wrong, but you can adapt the "War and Peace" opening to 'Each happy sexual relationship is alike, but every unhappy one is unhappy in its own way'. This oolong tea doesn't cut it (4am wakenings) and I'm waiting for my tianeptine (no sexual side effects) to arrive. Don't worry, Curt. You are 36 or so? Your libido will die soon enough. I'd recommend you restart cannabis, but this is the wrong board, and it's possibly bad advice.
Declan
Posted by curtm on May 12, 2006, at 14:47:46
In reply to sex and stuff, posted by Declan on May 12, 2006, at 14:33:02
Posted by bassman on May 12, 2006, at 15:43:23
In reply to sex and stuff, posted by Declan on May 12, 2006, at 14:33:02
That's really funny, in a very dark way (namely, because it's true). Sort of like when they suggested that the Rolling Stones tune, "Let's Spend the Night Together", in deference to the age of musicians, should be renamed, "Let's Take a Nap Together". And you don't have to be 50 to feel that way...
Posted by curtm on May 12, 2006, at 18:53:28
In reply to sex and stuff, posted by Declan on May 12, 2006, at 14:33:02
I'm not trying to convince anyone. You're right. It's probably not an addiction (even though I am highly addiction prone.) I am just saying I don't like the mood swings that are associated with it. It's not when, where, how often, how good. I could not care any less about that (well maybe a little.)
It's probably just a general bipolar mood swing that I assimilate into everything else, just to make excuses. Ya think?
Posted by bassman on May 12, 2006, at 19:05:44
In reply to Missing my point I think » Declan, posted by curtm on May 12, 2006, at 18:53:28
So the point is that you don't like the emotional rollercoast that is occuring during, but probably isn't caused by, the sexual frequency; and you don't feel deprived. How'd I do?
Posted by Declan on May 12, 2006, at 19:36:10
In reply to Missing my point I think » Declan, posted by curtm on May 12, 2006, at 18:53:28
Just trying to cheer myself up on a slow morning, Curt. That's about it.....but truly, you wouldn't want to muck your hormones up or whatever it is that that stuff would do. Or take drugs to lessen your sex drive. That said, I don't understand bipolar. I have mood swings, reactive ones, but I've never been optimistic enough to say I'm hypomanic.
Declan
Posted by curtm on May 12, 2006, at 22:38:11
In reply to Re: Missing my point I think, posted by bassman on May 12, 2006, at 19:05:44
The more I talk about it, the more I realize what it is I'm tryng to say.
I guess to put it simply, its a "trigger"
And f***, I happened to have the thread up on the computer when I went to make my kid a sandwich and she read the whole f;in thread. I had some serious explaining to do. Gddmit! I had an anxiety attack. She thought it was about her. It's about me, not her.
*******************People like us just don't understand.
Please RSVP anyone
Posted by curtm on May 12, 2006, at 22:39:34
In reply to Re: Missing my point I think, posted by curtm on May 12, 2006, at 22:38:11
Posted by curtm on May 12, 2006, at 23:44:31
In reply to I meant to say people NOT like us don't understand (nm), posted by curtm on May 12, 2006, at 22:39:34
I meant to say people NOT like us don't understand.
Posted by Declan on May 13, 2006, at 0:33:07
In reply to Shint! I shouldnt have even started this!, posted by curtm on May 12, 2006, at 23:44:31
Don't worry, Curt. I walked into a wall last night.
Go forward in thread:
Psycho-Babble Medication | Extras | FAQ
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.org
Script revised: February 4, 2008
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl
Copyright 2006-17 Robert Hsiung.
Owned and operated by Dr. Bob LLC and not the University of Chicago.