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Posted by tepiaca on March 9, 2006, at 16:10:39
Hi everybody
I have return to Nardil since yesterday . Rigth now I feel dissapointed because I thougth I was gonna find something better, which didn´t happen, so Im feeling like , here I goin again to my old
Nardil life. It really sucks . I can´t deny it´s
the best med I have found but believe me guys
I can´t live like this, I need something else.
Im gonna try everything, Im gonna reach 90mgs Im
gonna add every med I could , Im gonna suspend
and start Nardil. I need a change in my life,
I wanna enjoy life , I wanna have friends, meet
new people, have a nice job, fight for love,
I wanna do it !!! . I don´t want to live like
this.
Any suggestions about which med I could add to
Nardil are well received. I have only added to
nardil Epival and it didnt work out. I also added
50mgs of Seroquel last time. I have heard here
that lamictal is good with Parnate maybe I can
try that one with Naridl
Another question, do you think I could take
cod liver oil with Nardil? Scott emulsion
Im worried about the tyramineIm your friend TEP
Posted by jedi on March 9, 2006, at 22:23:05
In reply to I need something to augment Nardil, posted by tepiaca on March 9, 2006, at 16:10:39
Hi TEP,
I find myself, at this time, in a similar position as you. I have been “On” and Off” Nardil, mostly on for the past ten years of my life. Every attempt to wean off the medication has lead eventually to another bout of major atypical depression. Three+ major life events. Man the depression was nasty. I’m currently off Nardil with the help of some essential fatty acids EPA-2400mg daily and DHA-2000mg daily (See alternative board). I also take 1mg of clonazepam daily for social and generalized anxiety. I have just added 150mg of Wellbutrin XL to the mix, even though this me can have a negative effect on the anxiety. So far I have fought off the really serious depression. I’ll probably send a letter to my MD about upping the dose to 300mg of the XL in a couple of weeks. This med seems to mildly deal with some of the energy problems I have had. Bupropion is mostly a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor with also some effect on dopamine.
I would love to stay off Nardil, but I have 2 months worth stored in a dry, airless container. Just in case. I figure it might take me that long to get another prescription to the stuff. Right now I am crossing my fingers and hanging in there. You are not alone.
Good luck,
Jedi>
> Hi everybody
> I have return to Nardil since yesterday . Rigth now I feel dissapointed because I thougth I was gonna find something better, which didn´t happen, so Im feeling like , here I goin again to my old
> Nardil life. ...
Posted by Phillipa on March 9, 2006, at 23:09:22
In reply to Re: I need something to augment Nardil » tepiaca, posted by jedi on March 9, 2006, at 22:23:05
Tepi Tyler is looking for you too. He's also worried about you. Glad the nardil came. Love Phillipa
Posted by tepiaca on March 9, 2006, at 23:43:35
In reply to Re: I need something to augment Nardil » tepiaca, posted by jedi on March 9, 2006, at 22:23:05
> Hi TEP,
> I find myself, at this time, in a similar position as you. I have been “On” and Off” Nardil, mostly on for the past ten years of my life. Every attempt to wean off the medication has lead eventually to another bout of major atypical depression. Three+ major life events. Man the depression was nasty.It is tougth rigth? there are moments when one think that you don´t need more meds but then
everything fall again.
I’m currently off Nardil with the help of some essential fatty acids EPA-2400mg daily and DHA-2000mg daily (See alternative board).
wow I remember I take in the past 1000mg of EPA, never tried a higher dose. Do you note a difference between 1 or 2 mg?
.
> I would love to stay off Nardil, but I have 2 months worth stored in a dry, airless container. Just in case. I figure it might take me that long to get another prescription to the stuff. Right now I am crossing my fingers and hanging in there. You are not alone.
> Good luck,
> Jedi
>
> >Thanks jedi , I need a miracle
Posted by TylerJ on March 10, 2006, at 8:57:00
In reply to I need something to augment Nardil, posted by tepiaca on March 9, 2006, at 16:10:39
>
> Hi everybody
> I have return to Nardil since yesterday . Rigth now I feel dissapointed because I thougth I was gonna find something better, which didn´t happen, so Im feeling like , here I goin again to my old
> Nardil life. It really sucks . I can´t deny it´s
> the best med I have found but believe me guys
> I can´t live like this, I need something else.
> Im gonna try everything, Im gonna reach 90mgs Im
> gonna add every med I could , Im gonna suspend
> and start Nardil. I need a change in my life,
> I wanna enjoy life , I wanna have friends, meet
> new people, have a nice job, fight for love,
> I wanna do it !!! . I don´t want to live like
> this.
> Any suggestions about which med I could add to
> Nardil are well received. I have only added to
> nardil Epival and it didnt work out. I also added
> 50mgs of Seroquel last time. I have heard here
> that lamictal is good with Parnate maybe I can
> try that one with Naridl
> Another question, do you think I could take
> cod liver oil with Nardil? Scott emulsion
> Im worried about the tyramine
>
> Im your friend TEP
>
>
>
Hi Tep,
I've been wondering about you. You started Nardil and need some ideas for augmentation? I'll give you a list of some below, but please see your Doctor before trying any of them. I wish you well my friend. Hopefully The Chairmen, Scott, and others who have had more experience with Nardil can give you more ideas.1. Lithium - mood stabilizer, 300 - 600 mgs.
2. Thyroid hormone - Cytomel
3. Lamictal - an anti-convulsant also used as a mood stabilizer. Works well with Lithium and at 200 mgs. can be activating.
4. Tegretol - anticonvulsant also works well with lithium.
5.Keppra - anticonvulsant
6. Pindolol - beta blocker
7. Pamelor - heterocyclic AD
8.Zyprexa and Risperdol - antipsychotics
9. Trazodone for insomnia. Works great for my Parnate induced insomnia.
I hope this list helps. These are meds I will consider if I need help with Parnate. Things to keep in mind is always try only one at a time. And never try them without talking to your doc FIRST. Good Luck Tep.
Tyler
Posted by jedi on March 10, 2006, at 10:55:47
In reply to Re: I need something to augment Nardil » jedi, posted by tepiaca on March 9, 2006, at 23:43:35
>
> wow I remember I take in the past 1000mg of EPA, never tried a higher dose. Do you note a difference between 1 or 2 mg?
>
>TEP,
The studies I've looked at use at least 1 gram of EPA in depression, some a lot more. I think overall the Omega-3s are just good for your body and brain. At high doses, while still on Nardil, they increased my insomnia.
Some things I've used with Nardil: (Consult with your MD)
1. Clonazepam - The old standby
2. Nortriptyline - TCA
3. Wellbutrin - Contraindicated, but no problem for me
4. Trazodone - For insomnia, makes me feel too drugged
5. Narcotics - For other pain issues, always helped my depression
Careful - Some,such as meperidine(Demerol) will kill youI think Nardil with buprenorphine would be a good mix for me. Yeah, good luck getting a script for that.
Take care,
Jedi
Posted by Michael Bell on March 10, 2006, at 11:02:44
In reply to I need something to augment Nardil, posted by tepiaca on March 9, 2006, at 16:10:39
I also take Nardil - pretty good, not as good as the old, but oh well. Anyway I'm getting Phenibut (aka Gabatropin) in a couple days, supposed to be great for anxiety and possibly depession, I'll give u an update about a week after trying it.
Posted by Chairman_MAO on March 12, 2006, at 0:58:16
In reply to Re: I need something to augment Nardil » tepiaca, posted by TylerJ on March 10, 2006, at 8:57:00
Buprenorphine or d-amphetamine.
Posted by jedi on March 12, 2006, at 3:02:59
In reply to Re: I need something to augment Nardil » TylerJ, posted by Chairman_MAO on March 12, 2006, at 0:58:16
> Buprenorphine or d-amphetamine.
Chairman,
How, on God's Green Earth, do I get an MD to prescribe buprenorphine to go along with my standby Nardil? I'm pretty good at research and letters to MDs, but this one has me stumped.
I really respect your opinions,
Jedi
Posted by willyee on March 12, 2006, at 6:10:21
In reply to Re: I need something to augment Nardil » Chairman_MAO, posted by jedi on March 12, 2006, at 3:02:59
I tried lol for one day,and was told no so hard it felt like a brick,in fact my friend a pharmcist assistant said his pharm is the few localy that prescribe it and only strung out people in my state get it,and even then they literaly keep track of it,he said it is handled uniqly all the way around,and honestly i should not expect to get it,this is a common wealth state i should mention.
My doc when i mentioned it looked at me like she was gonna cut my head off lol.
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 13, 2006, at 20:38:24
In reply to possibly phenibut » tepiaca, posted by Michael Bell on March 10, 2006, at 11:02:44
> I'm getting Phenibut (aka Gabatropin) in a couple days...
Sorry to interrupt, but I'd like to redirect follow-ups regarding Phenibut to Psycho-Babble Alternative. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20060313/msgs/619958.html
Thanks,
Bob
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