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Posted by ace on September 12, 2005, at 0:36:50
GUYS AND GALS...THIS IS MY PLAN
WENT TO DOCTORS TODAY....BASICALLY IN AUSTRALIA WE CAN'T GET THE DRUGS I WANTED WITHOUBT PAYING AN ARM, A LEG, AND A FINGERNAIL!
SO MY DOC RECOMMENDED GIVE CLONIDINE A 3 WEEK TRIAL TO REALLY GET NARDIL IN GEARIT IS A CRAZY DRUG- IT HITS EVERY RECEPTOR! BUT HE SEEMED OPTOMISTIC
THANKFULLY WE CAN GET CHEAP METAFORMIN HERE.....SO PLEASE GO THE WEIGHT!!!!!
GUYS AND GALS , PLEASE TELL ME YOUR EXPERIENCES, COMMENTS, CRITICISM, ETC!
YOU NARDIL CHAMP,
ACE!
PS HI PHILLIPA!!!!
Posted by Declan on September 12, 2005, at 3:50:02
In reply to NARDIL + CLONIDINE....AND METAFORMIN, posted by ace on September 12, 2005, at 0:36:50
Ace, is the idea of the clonidine to shut off some biological stimulating thingo that would otherwise disturb sleep and whatever else?
Declan
Posted by linkadge on September 12, 2005, at 8:25:39
In reply to NARDIL + CLONIDINE....AND METAFORMIN, posted by ace on September 12, 2005, at 0:36:50
Do you mean clozapine? I know it hits many receptors,
I thought clonidine only had one action as an alpha 2 agonist.
Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on September 12, 2005, at 18:11:40
In reply to Re: NARDIL + CLONIDINE....AND METAFORMIN, posted by linkadge on September 12, 2005, at 8:25:39
Ace! You're back! Are you touring? Clonidine was used here for cocaine w/d or heroine w/d. Was supposed to lower Blood pressure I believe. Send me an E-mail my King! Fondly, Phillipa your Queen
Posted by ace on September 13, 2005, at 1:13:17
In reply to Re: NARDIL + CLONIDINE....AND METAFORMIN, posted by linkadge on September 12, 2005, at 8:25:39
> Do you mean clozapine? I know it hits many receptors,
>
> I thought clonidine only had one action as an alpha 2 agonist.
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> Linkadge
Nuh bro...i checked out the pharmacology....Clonidine is crazy...you never know whats it going to do...every receptor is hit just about!!!
Posted by linkadge on September 13, 2005, at 8:05:06
In reply to Re: NARDIL + CLONIDINE....AND METAFORMIN » linkadge, posted by ace on September 13, 2005, at 1:13:17
Really? I can't find anything that says it does more than alpha-2 agonism.
http://lysine.pharm.utah.edu/netpharm/netpharm_00/druglist/clonidine.htm
Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on September 13, 2005, at 17:43:02
In reply to Re: NARDIL + CLONIDINE....AND METAFORMIN, posted by linkadge on September 13, 2005, at 8:05:06
Catapres? That's a cardiac med how does that help with nardil? Fondly Phillipa
Posted by Declan on September 13, 2005, at 23:23:44
In reply to Re: NARDIL + CLONIDINE....AND METAFORMIN » linkadge, posted by Phillipa on September 13, 2005, at 17:43:02
So Ace, you got some info suggesting metformin is good for weight loss through sensitization of insulin receptors? Something like that?
Declan
Posted by ace on September 14, 2005, at 23:32:34
In reply to Re: NARDIL + CLONIDINE....AND METAFORMIN, posted by Declan on September 13, 2005, at 23:23:44
> So Ace, you got some info suggesting metformin is good for weight loss through sensitization of insulin receptors? Something like that?
> DeclanIn one word yes. I have already noticed a difference (not huge) in appetite levels after 3 days. But, alas, it gives me HORRIBLE reflux problems. Unless I see a big improvement after 3 weeks, I'm going straight to Topomax. Have you had much experienec with these meds....sorry mate, what are you on now, and how is your weight...
Speak soon friend,
Ace
Posted by Declan on September 15, 2005, at 1:03:56
In reply to Re: NARDIL + CLONIDINE....AND METAFORMIN » Declan, posted by ace on September 14, 2005, at 23:32:34
Ace, Ward Dean at IAS suggests taking metformin as an antiaging drug. I wonder if there is a low dose of it that might be sensible long term. You know, helpful and not too injurious.
Declan
Posted by Chairman_MAO on September 16, 2005, at 10:49:26
In reply to NARDIL + CLONIDINE....AND METAFORMIN, posted by ace on September 12, 2005, at 0:36:50
I have found nicotine patches seem to help with Nardil food cravings. Mine are not generally bad, so I don't use them much.
Ace: have you ever taken a diuretic with Nardil? I take 50mg hydrochlorothiazide per day. Without it, I'd weigh at least 10lbs more due to water alone. This could be part of your weight gain. If I don't take the HCTZ, by the end of the day my legs look like the michelin man's around where the top of my socks meet my calves.
Posted by gardenergirl on September 16, 2005, at 12:23:48
In reply to Ace: try a diuretic » ace, posted by Chairman_MAO on September 16, 2005, at 10:49:26
Yep, I have to take Lasix at times, or I get the same Michelin Man legs. NOT attractive.
I do find that for me, the edema is dose-dependent. It's not showing up at 45 mg.
gg
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